I don't understand why it's so hard for some of you to blame refs

[JRHEETER]

Because blaming refs is the cheap and easy way out.

 

[OburgOrange]

The game was like a perfect storm of head scratching coaching decisions and bad calls against us. Hard to beat that combo

 

[OrangeDW]

Because blaming refs is the cheap and easy way out.

Must be why the commentators did it as the play was happening? You know it’s an obvious one when that happens.

 

[JRHEETER]

Must be why the commentators did it as the play was happening? You know it’s an obvious one when that happens.

I think you can call them out on it but you can’t blame the refs for every loss which is what happens a lot here.

Instead of taking a look at the team and mistakes that the team made along the way too.

You can’t blame it all on the refs

 

[Newhouser]

saying “we wuz robbed” is a time-honored tradition in sports. Every sport that has officials or refs and involves individual interpretation is a sport where those refs and officials are going to make bad calls. And fans are not going to be happy about it.

Syracuse-Notre Dame 1961 is why so many of us old timers have always rooted against ND…well, one of many reasons anyway. On the other hand, we tend to forget the ones that go our way, like the extra point that was actually no good against Toledo in OT ten years ago. We also selectively become blind when it comes to things that weren’t called against us. Just say the name “Marvin Graves” to a WVU fan if you re looking for a fun reaction.

Does it suck? Of course it does, but it comes with the territory in a sport where players, coaches, and yes, refs are imperfect. There are evaluations and sometimes consequences even if they are not apparent to fans. Beyond that, unless every play is going to have a video replay then sometimes mistakes will be made and sometimes we are going to get screwed. You and I may not be happy about it but it is the nature of the beast.

Excellent post. Also there were what five or six penalties called all day? They weren't calling anything. Did they miss the hold...for sure, but with six flags they most have missed and/or ignored other stuff too. Missed calls happen. The conspiracy of the world being out to get us is crazy.

 

[JRHEETER]

Must be why the commentators did it as the play was happening? You know it’s an obvious one when that happens.

We as a team left a lot of points out there on the table that if we had, wouldn’t have made a difference on that obvious hold had we gotten those points

 

[OrangeDW]

I think you can call them out on it but you can’t blame the refs for every loss which is what happens a lot here.

Instead of taking a look at the team and mistakes that the team made along the way too.

You can’t blame it all on the refs

A couple major blown calls (that all go the other way) on huge plays in a 3 point loss...

 

[All4SU]

There is a difference between blaming losses on refs and being mad about really horrible calls or no-calls.

 

[OrangeDW]

We as a team left a lot of points out there on the table that if we had, wouldn’t have made a difference on that obvious hold had we gotten those points

So?

Refs shouldn’t be blowing the calls they blew. It cost us. Roughing the passer penalty and missed holding call were just unbelievable. And they cost us.

 

[OrangeDW]

We’re not on the team. We’re fans. We don’t have to “control what we can control”.

The team not playing a perfect game doesn’t mean we can’t point out that every major and obvious blown call crushed us.

 

[JRHEETER]

So?

Refs shouldn’t be blowing the calls they blew. It cost us. Roughing the passer penalty and missed holding call were just unbelievable. And they cost us.

You can be mad at those calls…..we didn’t lose because of those calls.

Going out there the first two drives and just running it up the middle, cost us the game.

Not kicking the FG early in the game and going for it with an ugly run up the middle that was beyond obvious cost us the game.

Wasting a timeout to go for it, leaving us with two timeouts at the end of the half cost us the game.

Having terrible clock management at the end of the half and not giving us a chance at a fg try cost us the game.

basically, the first half of the game, cost us….

 

[721Comstock]

We as a team left a lot of points out there on the table that if we had, wouldn’t have made a difference on that obvious hold had we gotten those points

One thing been true, doesn’t mean the other thing isn’t also true.

Yes - the playcalling, clock mis-management, and decision making all were subpar at times.

And - It wasn’t as if there was ‘just’ one bad call, or no call.
There were several. All very impactful, and all went in Noles’ favor.

 

[JRHEETER]

We’re not on the team. We’re fans. We don’t have to “control what we can control”.

The team not playing a perfect game doesn’t mean we can’t point out that every major and obvious blown call crushed us.

They certainly didn’t help, but we didn’t lose solely on them

 

[CousCuse]

People are still raking Dino about time management because of the end of the first half? If that play was reviewed it would have been ruled a catch, which the refs knew and was why they didn't review it. Had it been ruled a catch, the time would have been put back to 21 seconds and the ball would have been around the 20 with one timeout in hand. You can run a lot of plays in that amount of time, even running plays and chances of getting a touchdown are very good, and a field goal was almost assured.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

So?

Refs shouldn’t be blowing the calls they blew. It cost us. Roughing the passer penalty and missed holding call were just unbelievable. And they cost us.

Yeah.

The expectations for refs is that they get the obvious stuff right.

This season against Rutgers and FSU, that wasn't the case.

I'm tired of it. It's exhausting.

The idea that we have to be flawless in our decision-making and execution, but when the refs screw up and it hurts us is, well, that's just life is HORSE POOP.

 

[syrBossHogg]

 

[sufandu]

I always thought blaming refs Is a loser’s mentality; but it is harder to keep thinking that way.

It's not when they clearly influence the outcome of a close game.

I think it's sometimes forgotten that refs exist solely to make sure both teams play fairly by the rules. Anytime it moves beyond that, they're doing their job wrong.

 

[tbonezone]

every sports fan views every game from their own biased perspective .
you'll seldom ever see a post on a team's message board about how the refs won us that game.
that's just human nature. and that's why i get tired of "blame the officiating" posts after every loss.

 

[sufandu]

This is absolute garbage.

We need to fo to tear away jerseys. What does it say when a guy gets a sack and the olineman is standing there with a jersey in his hands?

 

[RF2044]

I think you can call them out on it but you can’t blame the refs for every loss which is what happens a lot here.

Instead of taking a look at the team and mistakes that the team made along the way too.

You can’t blame it all on the refs

No it isn't -- that's just interpretive spin.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling the refs out when the blatantly miss a call.

 

[storange]

This is absolute garbage.

It’s so absurd , the Olineman puts his hands in the air. Giving it away.

 

[orangedave]

saying “we wuz robbed” is a time-honored tradition in sports. Every sport that has officials or refs and involves individual interpretation is a sport where those refs and officials are going to make bad calls. And fans are not going to be happy about it.

Syracuse-Notre Dame 1961 is why so many of us old timers have always rooted against ND…well, one of many reasons anyway. On the other hand, we tend to forget the ones that go our way, like the extra point that was actually no good against Toledo in OT ten years ago. We also selectively become blind when it comes to things that weren’t called against us. Just say the name “Marvin Graves” to a WVU fan if you re looking for a fun reaction.

Does it suck? Of course it does, but it comes with the territory in a sport where players, coaches, and yes, refs are imperfect. There are evaluations and sometimes consequences even if they are not apparent to fans. Beyond that, unless every play is going to have a video replay then sometimes mistakes will be made and sometimes we are going to get screwed. You and I may not be happy about it but it is the nature of the beast.

Thank you for being, as usual, the voice of reason.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

at least I hope you aren't thinking before you are posting.

LOL...if thinking coherently before posting was a prerequisite, the game thread would be about 4 pages long...

Just saying...

 

[cuseincincy]

I would say blame for yesterday lies with:

1. Coaching - Good playcalling 20 to 20. Horrible in the red zone
2. Players - Don't let it be close. Get the extra 1/2 yard that makes review and/or judgement unnecessary.
3. Officials - There are always missed calls. We only remember the ones late that have more immediate impact.

Slightly OT but NFL refs are making the game almost unwatchable. Any ref that gets the call wrong after review should be suspended without pay for at least a week. Thats all I got.

 

[Tobias Funke]

every sports fan views every game from their own biased perspective .
you'll seldom ever see a post on a team's message board about how the refs won us that game.
that's just human nature. and that's why i get tired of "blame the officiating" posts after every loss.

Every game sure. This was pretty egregious. I think the refs won us the Akron game years ago clearly. I don’t think each penalty matters but when poor calls extend drives, take away points, or allow a team to get in field goal range to ice the game it is fair game. Hard to watch the end of that game and say the referees didn’t have a material impact on the outcome. Is what it is, but expecting people to ignore the impact is just as bad as the orange colored glasses