I don't understand why it's so hard for some of you to blame refs

[OrangeDW]

The difference is, it is supposed to be the players and coaches, not the refs. The refs aren't supposed to even be a leg. They are supposed to be a nonfactor. So, without the refs, the SU players and coaches did enough to win the game. If you're saying we should expect SU to be mistake free, that's not realistic and it's unfair. FSU wasn't mistake free and they won... because they got help.

Right. Not like we’re begging for something ticky tack here either. Just get the obvious ones right, and nobody will really care about the refs.

Felt like the two most obvious missed calls went against us: the roughing the passer before halftime, and missed hold. Both led to FSU points. Those two plays get called correctly, we likely win. And those were obvious, easy ones to get right.

 

[OrangeDW]

They missed a holding call. No doubt. As for a concerted, organized effort...So what's behind the conspiracy to keep us down? The ACC is worried that we are thiiiiis close to dominating football? The gamblers want Cuse to lose? The stripes don't like Dino? Wildhack? JB? The stripes ignore weekly post game reviews and the electronic media age to conspire against SU football, one of the smallest pimples in college football? What and why is this conspiracy against in motion?

I don’t think it’s some grand conspiracy, I think it’s more innate that they just don’t respect us and thus the other team gets the benefit of the doubt that we don’t.

 

[SuFTW]

was anybody holding on shredder's 50 yard scramble ? if you like flags you can throw them just about every play. 6 penalties called all game. 3 on each team. were calls missed ? sure . was there laundry that needed to be picked up ? sure. his name is brian and he's hiding in the everglades. or perhaps he stormed the field.

No holds on Shrader’s run. Rhino was blocking and he doesn’t need to hold.