Was it over the top? Yep. But I loved every minute of it.
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I don't think that is true. Certainly not since 1996. He had generally taken the best player available, the best offensive player for most positions. That is how you get a Devendorf, GMac or Harris. They aren't long and athletic. Just good players. He then used the zone to help mask individual D weaknesses.jb recruits to the zone since he started playing zone 100% of the time. That was really 1996. Now, if you get a talent like g-mac, you take him. But unless recruiting suddenly dried up, you won't see Mike Edwards walking in that door.
Don't disagree. But you do see players that we recruit, and many in the upcoming class, that are recruited because they fit our system. As I said, g-mac didn't fit. But we made room.I don't think that is true. Certainly not since 1996. He had generally taken the best player available, the best offensive player for most positions. That is how you get a Devendorf, GMac or Harris. They aren't long and athletic. Just good players. He then used the zone to help mask individual D weaknesses.
Three years ago a change happened and the D became a weapon. Also SU's reputation has grown and the choice of players has helped recruiting. But if a DC2 is available with a potential useful offense, JB is not turning him down, regardless of zone fit.
i think the point is valid and shows a knowledge of jb's recruits . if you look at jason hart,gerry mac,billy edelin, devo, scoop, triche,jonny and mcw you can't honestly say he's recruiting a "type" becuz these guys games are ooooh so different. granted he's always had a penchant for the long rangy sf's but after that it's get the best players he can. agreed?
Yeah, that's it. Did I in anyway criticize Boeheim. Guess what champ, I remember a time when the collective wisdom was that Boeheim was horrible, and I was on the otherside of that one to. It didn't take me 25 years and a NC to see we had a great coach.
None, but we will have 2 of the best distributors in back to back years. I love it!ok. so go ahead explain to me the similarities of michael carter williams and tyler ennis in the zone.
Do you actually follow Syracuse basketball?? He does recruit certain types of players to play the zone defense and the zone transition offense. As far as talents go, yes the players are different, but as far as body type/physical attritbutes, JB recruits players to fit the zone. That is where he is different from coaches like PayPalCal. Cal recruits players then creates offenses/defenses to match those players. JB creates the offenses/defenses then recruits the players to meet those needs. Read this article, it lays out pretty well how JB recruits and coaches: http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-col...-elite-status-every-season-college-basketball
Next time before crititzing you may want to get a little more knowledge on the subject...just trying to help you out...
Was it over the top? Yep. But I loved every minute of it.
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jb recruits to the zone since he started playing zone 100% of the time. That was really 1996. Now, if you get a talent like g-mac, you take him. But unless recruiting suddenly dried up, you won't see Mike Edwards walking in that door.
I don't think that is true. Certainly not since 1996. He had generally taken the best player available, the best offensive player for most positions. That is how you get a Devendorf, GMac or Harris. They aren't long and athletic. Just good players. He then used the zone to help mask individual D weaknesses.
Three years ago a change happened and the D became a weapon. Also SU's reputation has grown and the choice of players has helped recruiting. But if a DC2 is available with a potential useful offense, JB is not turning him down, regardless of zone fit.
Did anone else notice the halftime and post game analist Dan Dochit who keeps making JB Riefsneider references? (Please excuse my spelling on both names)
name spelling forgiven but "analist" made me laugh out loud and now my boss knows I'm not working hard enough on a Friday.
Do you actually follow Syracuse basketball?? He does recruit certain types of players to play the zone defense and the zone transition offense. As far as talents go, yes the players are different, but as far as body type/physical attritbutes, JB recruits players to fit the zone. That is where he is different from coaches like PayPalCal. Cal recruits players then creates offenses/defenses to match those players. JB creates the offenses/defenses then recruits the players to meet those needs. Read this article, it lays out pretty well how JB recruits and coaches: http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-col...-elite-status-every-season-college-basketball
Next time before crititzing you may want to get a little more knowledge on the subject...just trying to help you out...
I can only comment on the the play by play/color aspect. I no longer watch pre-game, halftime, or post-game analysis anymore...just easier that way.Did anone else notice the halftime and post game analist Dan Dochit who keeps making JB Riefsneider references? (Please excuse my spelling on both names)
name spelling forgiven but "analist" made me laugh out loud and now my boss knows I'm not working hard enough on a Friday.
Of course, man of the players (before players) you mentioned were recruited when JB played a lot of man to man. JB will always take a great player, regardless of prototypical zone lenght. (Flynn, Harris). However, in the last few years, there does seem to be a concerted effort to go for J. Grant type kids.It has been thick and heavy-handed. But, they're a network, and networks exist to sell soap and cars, and they have airspace to fill. What are you gonna do?
The ridiculous part, though, is all the contrived "brilliance" they attribute to JB. Praise his record, fine. But, make up stuff about how he only recruits specific types of players to fit his specific coaching scheme... and it's just BS. Gotta have those prototypical players, right? The guard... As if Michael Edwards and Adrian Autry weren't polar opposites. As if Triche and Devendorf weren't opposites. As if MCW and Johnny Flynn weren't completely different players. What do DC1 and Rick Jackson have in common? Pearl and Allen Griffin... And, everyone seems to forget we haven't been exclusively a zone team for all that long.
Slurping is fine. If it's genuine. But, jeezus — have some background and perspective.
What can I say, drinking and typing don't typically go well for me![]()
I would not agree that we mixed it up for the next 6 years. No way was it anywhere near 50 50. Most here, wished it was.Not for nothing, but we were hardly an all-zone team starting in 1996. That was a one-year diversion to cover up limited depth and very slow guards. It won us five games in the tournament and then we went back to mixing defenses for the next six years. Those 1999 and 2000 teams actually played pretty good man.
Mike Edwards wouldn't be a good fit on these teams (we really have had three or four classes of good zone guys at this point). He was a talent way back when, though - one of the highest-rated recruits in Jersey, though not our top choice in '89.