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[rrlbees]

People have been stabbed everywhere in society. That's not used as an excuse to wand. One person stabbed out of many millions of Dome visitors over three decades doesn't seem to suggest a real threat. (And, again, this is assuming that wanding is effective. In reality, it's a farce - token checks for women's bags and inconsistent detection of metal on people's bodies.)

Wanding is a precaution to all the crazy stuff going on in the world today.

 

[OttoMets]

Wanding is a precaution to all the crazy stuff going on in the world today.

I know. It's a deterrent, when it's applied carefully it should catch contraband.

I happen to also think it's an ineffective show that wastes time and money in order to deter something that's very unlikely. But we can agree to disagree.

 

[OttoMets]

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Offer incentives to the regular season ticket holders who uses ALL of their allotted tickets.

Parking parking parking. The university has turned every parking space near the dome into a building, or made it off limits to park. Cannot tell you how much of a disincentive this is in the age of 60 -inch flat screen HDTV - especially for hoops. I know you can't do anything about this, but thought you should know.

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The first thing is an interesting idea; someone earlier mentioned something similar about student incentives. 100% use of season tickets earns a free nacho and beverage on Senior Day, that kind of thing? A signed photo? 10% discount on the next year's tickets? That could be effective. Definitely thinking out of the box and certainly not too difficult with today's technology.

Regarding parking, this strikes me as hyperbole, but I do have a suggestion to add more.

First, SU eliminated two lots in recent years, RAY and HEN. That's a loss of 200 spaces. They added 36 to Stadium West this year. The VA added 480 to its garage a couple years ago (granted, that's not controlled by SU, but it's available parking right on site). So there's been a net gain of spaces in the neighborhood. And there are still empty spots in the permit lots before every home game.

That said, with the streetscape improvements around the new law building, the inefficient use of on-street parking is even more glaring. Allowing the police department to shut off blocks of East Raynor and Irving several hours before each game and allow ~100 on-street spots to go unused (or, I suspect, to be used by friends of cops) certainly isn't in the best interest of the fans. (It's also a totally inappropriate use of public space, but I digress.) It removes potential parking and creates a dead zone around the building. Unfortunately, I don't think SU has any incentive to fix this; either way, they're not taking in new revenue. The city ostensibly does, but the police department operates with some autonomy on these matters.

Anyway, if SU and the city could work together on a more progressive transportation management plan, that would free up more parking and create a more lively atmosphere (what better use of those new wide sidewalks than on-street tailgating?) in the blocks closest to the Dome.

 

[CuseHulk]

How bout for next season to start, a selected Home Game.

$ 1 dollar beers.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

That said, with the streetscape improvements around the new law building, the inefficient use of on-street parking is even more glaring. Allowing the police department to shut off blocks of East Raynor and Irving several hours before each game and allow ~100 on-street spots to go unused (or, I suspect, to be used by friends of cops) certainly isn't in the best interest of the fans. (It's also a totally inappropriate use of public space, but I digress.) It removes potential parking and creates a dead zone around the building. Unfortunately, I don't think SU has any incentive to fix this; either way, they're not taking in new revenue. The city ostensibly does, but the police department operates with some autonomy on these matters.

The Syracuse Fire Dept doesn't want cars parked on East Raynor on game days.

 

[OttoMets]

The Syracuse Fire Dept doesn't want cars parked on East Raynor on game days.

Interesting. News to me.

I'm suspicious of departmental decisions like this. During any day of the week, hundreds of people are in those buildings, alternate-side parking is in place, and no one is fearful that the fire department will be unable to respond to an emergency. I'd be interested in hearing why a ~36'-wide street can't handle a parking lane and offer emergency access on game days, as well.

 

[JeremyCuse]

OnTrack was great, but it's never coming back. The actual trains were sold and I believe those particular tracks are now off limits to passenger trains after a recent sale. Too bad - it was the best way to get to games - especially hoops.

There are buses that operate from great northern mall and Wegmans Dewitt for each home football game. The connective corridor is free and can take you near the dome and you can snag it a block from armory square.

There is one significant issue with shuttles to the game: traffic congestion. 20 minute shuttle trips turn into 45 minute trips, making them highly inefficient and ineffective. Few people want to waste tailgating time on a shuttle bus.

I would love to see the ticket price scale flattened. Not reduced, but flattened. For all the crap students take for not showing up, it's the empty seats between the 40s that piss me off. I know its hard to take back something you give people, but the $100 season tickets need to go away. It would allow single game seats in better locations to be dropped -increasing walk ups.

Offer incentives to the regular season ticket holders who uses ALL of their allotted tickets.

Parking parking parking. The university has turned every parking space near the dome into a building, or made it off limits to park. Cannot tell you how much of a disincentive this is in the age of 60 -inch flat screen HDTV - especially for hoops. I know you can't do anything about this, but thought you should know.

My kingdom for a uniform with Orange in it. The athletic department had made huuuuuuge strides establishing orange as our color (take a look at clips from the dome in the 90's where white dominates the stands). I don't care what they look like as long as there is orange.

How about a video of the players touching the Ernie Davis statue with a VoiceOver from Floyd little or other players talking about getting excited about playing for Syracuse. Run it just before the opening videos (which are great). People need to know this happens...then maybe they'll show up to see it live.

Love the train whistle. Love the DJ...cause the kids like it. Hate the weather forecast as you head out of the dome. I get the practicality of it, but it's a freaking train wreck when it comes on during the flow of the game.

Agree with doing anything to get orange on the seats to make it look better.

But the bottom line here is, we can brainstorm until we exhaust every idea..but nothing will improve the game day experience like a winning program.

Spot on with all of your comments especially the parking/tailgating one. I understand the need for Syracuse to expand academically with new buildings including dorms and such but you cant take away nearly every lot within a half mile of the dome and then wonder why attendance sucks. As you noted in the age of 60+ inch HDTV's and sports bars that continue to get better and better most people will just stay home or head to a bar to watch the game rather then have to drive around the campus for an hour looking for a spot.

Things have tightened considerably for those of us with parking passes if your trying to park without a pass somewhere near the dome, forget it. As you noted not much someone like Dan can do about it but it absolutely plays a role and its getting worse and worse.

 

[JeremyCuse]

The first thing is an interesting idea; someone earlier mentioned something similar about student incentives. 100% use of season tickets earns a free nacho and beverage on Senior Day, that kind of thing? A signed photo? 10% discount on the next year's tickets? That could be effective. Definitely thinking out of the box and certainly not too difficult with today's technology.

Regarding parking, this strikes me as hyperbole, but I do have a suggestion to add more.

First, SU eliminated two lots in recent years, RAY and HEN. That's a loss of 200 spaces. They added 36 to Stadium West this year. The VA added 480 to its garage a couple years ago (granted, that's not controlled by SU, but it's available parking right on site). So there's been a net gain of spaces in the neighborhood. And there are still empty spots in the permit lots before every home game.

That said, with the streetscape improvements around the new law building, the inefficient use of on-street parking is even more glaring. Allowing the police department to shut off blocks of East Raynor and Irving several hours before each game and allow ~100 on-street spots to go unused (or, I suspect, to be used by friends of cops) certainly isn't in the best interest of the fans. (It's also a totally inappropriate use of public space, but I digress.) It removes potential parking and creates a dead zone around the building. Unfortunately, I don't think SU has any incentive to fix this; either way, they're not taking in new revenue. The city ostensibly does, but the police department operates with some autonomy on these matters.

Anyway, if SU and the city could work together on a more progressive transportation management plan, that would free up more parking and create a more lively atmosphere (what better use of those new wide sidewalks than on-street tailgating?) in the blocks closest to the Dome.

Its been a while since I didnt have a parking pass but isnt the VA lot closed to the public for all games and only available if your there for the VA and or a parking permit? The only real public option is the garage a little further down and apparently that was permit only for the exhibition games and may have been bought by SU.

 

[OttoMets]

Its been a while since I didnt have a parking pass but isnt the VA lot closed to the public for all games and only available if your there for the VA and or a parking permit? The only real public option is the garage a little further down and apparently that was permit only for the exhibition games and may have been bought by SU.

I just read this in another thread...must be a new-ish policy. Last I'd checked, it was open for $15 day of game parking. This was probably 2012-2013.

Even though I'm wrong on that, it still means that there hasn't been a net loss of spaces in the past few years, though it's become a tough neighborhood for anyone who doesn't have a permit.

 

[rrlbees]

I just read this in another thread...must be a new-ish policy. Last I'd checked, it was open for $15 day of game parking. This was probably 2012-2013. Even though I'm wrong on that, it still means that there hasn't been a net loss of spaces in the past few years, though it's become a tough neighborhood for anyone who doesn't have a permit.

Yea, it's new this year.

 

[cuseinchina]

Really like the game day charters and trolley ideas. Trolleys from the parking lots (garages), Phoebe's, Marshall Street etc right to the quad would help the experience for game day (especially older fans and those that bring kids).

YES

 

[rrlbees]

I know. It's a deterrent, when it's applied carefully it should catch contraband. I happen to also think it's an ineffective show that wastes time and money in order to deter something that's very unlikely. But we can agree to disagree.

I'm on the better safe than sorry side. Not concerned about the kid that brings a knife in either. Rather to be safe than sorry about something bigger.

The process isn't bad though. It moves pretty quick.

 

[OttoMets]

I'm on the better safe than sorry side. Not concerned about the kid that brings a knife in either. Rather to be safe than sorry about something bigger.

The process isn't bad though. It moves pretty quick.

I'll tell you, this is a perk of Fine Mess for football. There's quite a difference between security waits at Gate J and whatever that gate is over by Archbold (N?). Rarely even a line over on the southwest corner. It's a climb, of course.

 

[rrlbees]

I'll tell you, this is a perk of Fine Mess for football. There's quite a difference between security waits at Gate J and whatever that gate is over by Archbold (N?). Rarely even a line over on the southwest corner. It's a climb, of course.

I should have been specific. I go into Gate C. Always a long line but goes fairly quickly.

 

[sutomcat]

Appreciate you continuing to actively look for suggestions. Here are some thoughts for you...

The biggest single thing that will increase football attendance is putting a better product out on the field. The last few seasons, even with a relatively competitive team, there have been a lot of poor performances at home. Even when they win, they tend to play pretty poorly (think Toledo and Villanova). And the offense, other than that one magical 2013 season, has been consistently bad. Most people like to see high scores games, an offense that puts points on the board and is exciting to watch.

But far more important than style of play, the team needs to win. A significant percentage of the possible audience just won't support a team that does not consistently win. I know this is out of your control, but it is the biggest factor out there, based on my interactions with the community.

The second biggest negative/problem to overcome is making access to the Dome easier. I know a lot of people that would like to go to the Dome, are big fans, have the money and the inclination to be season ticket holders, but do not go because they can't afford parking that gets them close enough to the Dome to make for a walk they can handle, and are unwilling to shuttle. They tell me the walk from Sims to the Dome is too long, and they are too out of shape or too old to do it anymore.

This is the downside to having a stadium on campus, where it is difficult to provide mass transportation to people with issues walking significant distances. Even walking a couple of blocks up a hill can be tough on a lot of people. When I ask people why they don't go to games, this is the second most common answer.

I don't know that there is an easy solution. The Dome's location makes it really tough to provide easy access to a lot of people. I see busses for people with disabilities that drop people off next to the Dome but the people I am talking about aren't disabled. They just can't walk the equivalent of 5 or 6 city blocks to get to the Dome, and back again afterwards.

Don't think it is a big driver, but the food choices, even with one stand selling loaded nachos and another selling chicken tenders, onion rings and sweet potato fries, are not good. The best stadia I visit on road trips I make feature food native and special to the region they are in. There is nothing like that at the Dome. Everything is generic and can be found in just about any other stadium in the country. Would like to see things like salt potatoes, chicken riggies, coneys, fried haddock sandwiches, spiedies, chicken wings, apple fritters, cider donuts, half moon cookies, and of course, Dino BBQ.

If it is not possible to prepare some of these things in the Dome, I like the idea of allowing people to leave the Dome during the game and get food outside, where restrictions on open flames, etc. can and should be relaxed. There should be sufficient room outside to set up seating areas, and even set up mini restaurants. Wouldn't it be great to have a mini Dino, Pastabilities, Avicollis, Clarks Ale House, etc. right outside the Dome? This would also help address the problems with congestion in the Dome concourses before games, during halftime, etc.

Pricing for season tickets has been horribly screwed up for decades and needs to be addressed. IMHO, the thing to focus on for now are the number of people in the stands, not the revenue coming in. Lower prices for the best seats, give a graduated break to people who purchase season tickets based on how many they buy, and make it clearly cheaper to buy season tickets than to buy tickets to individual games.

And one other thing: ginger ale should be available in the Dome.

 

[shantydaze]

A lot of schools do students free - and they don't come. Schools who went with free student tickets then added a price to them so there was a value to it, and still struggle to fill the stands.


I had a $100+ fee at Cortland for medical coverage (which I was on my parents at the time so i never used it) which would have gotten me antibiotics for when i was sick but i had no idea i had access to it. I think its a fair worry that students would have no sense in coming because they don't truly believe they have paid for anything

It was over 20 years ago, but Miami used to offer free tickets to all sporting events to students. The only time I recall the student section being full was the game against SU. Granted, the trip to the Orange Bowl was a pain in the butt. We received free passes for the Metrorail, which brought us to a bus, which brought us to the stadium. I believe it was between 45 minutes to an hour each way.


I believe the issue had less to do with the devaluing of the tickets as much as the effort and time it took to go to an off campus venue. There have been numerous reports in the last couple of years of student attendance issues for football, even at SEC schools.

Already one of my ideas. Incentives incentives incentives incentives incentives

The first thing is an interesting idea; someone earlier mentioned something similar about student incentives. 100% use of season tickets earns a free nacho and beverage on Senior Day, that kind of thing? A signed photo? 10% discount on the next year's tickets? That could be effective. Definitely thinking out of the box and certainly not too difficult with today's technology.

A little bit different because of the number of available seats, but Michigan State has done a nice job with the Izzone.

Regarding parking, this strikes me as hyperbole, but I do have a suggestion to add more.


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That said, with the streetscape improvements around the new law building, the inefficient use of on-street parking is even more glaring. Allowing the police department to shut off blocks of East Raynor and Irving several hours before each game and allow ~100 on-street spots to go unused (or, I suspect, to be used by friends of cops) certainly isn't in the best interest of the fans. (It's also a totally inappropriate use of public space, but I digress.) It removes potential parking and creates a dead zone around the building. Unfortunately, I don't think SU has any incentive to fix this; either way, they're not taking in new revenue. The city ostensibly does, but the police department operates with some autonomy on these matters.

At the Clemson game, there were numbered parking stalls on the street around Memorial Stadium at which people tailgated. I was informed that access to the spots was based on IPTAY donations. The fire department issues aside, perhaps Syracuse could do something similar on the internal streets to give the campus more of a “college football” feel.


At the end of the day, different things could increase the attendance and game experience for ever day fans/alumni as opposed to students. Students are the more fickle of the bunch their traditions need to be more organic as opposed to being arranged.


I am going to the Nebraska-Wisconsin game on Saturday. There are three things that I am confident will happen: (1) the students will show up late as a result of tailgating and the asinine way the school handles student tickets; (2) even if it is a close game, students will begin to leave after “Jump Around” at the 3rd Quarter break and the singing of Build Me Up Buttercup in the 4th Quarter, and (3) most of the alums will wait until the signing of the Varsity after the game. Depending on the weather, a third to a quarter of those in attendance will watch the 5th Quarter performance by the band.


The reason I am pointing this out is Wisconsin is considered to have a great game experience, but it struggles with getting students to the game on-time and with the students leaving early. What gets the students interested is the social aspect of the game, being with friends, and the traditions. It has an easier time filling its student section every game (even though it usually takes until the 2nd Quarter) because it has a much higher enrollment. But, in the end, it has similar issues as a smaller school like Syracuse keeping the students engaged and in their seats.

 

[CUSU]

Pricing for season tickets has been horribly screwed up for decades and needs to be addressed. IMHO, the thing to focus on for now are the number of people in the stands, not the revenue coming in. Lower prices for the best seats, give a graduated break to people who purchase season tickets based on how many they buy, and make it clearly cheaper to buy season tickets than to buy tickets to individual games.

^THIS

 

[JeremyCuse]

Appreciate you continuing to actively look for suggestions. Here are some thoughts for you...

The biggest single thing that will increase football attendance is putting a better product out on the field. The last few seasons, even with a relatively competitive team, there have been a lot of poor performances at home. Even when they win, they tend to play pretty poorly (think Toledo and Villanova). And the offense, other than that one magical 2013 season, has been consistently bad. Most people like to see high scores games, an offense that puts points on the board and is exciting to watch.

But far more important than style of play, the team needs to win. A significant percentage of the possible audience just won't support a team that does not consistently win. I know this is out of your control, but it is the biggest factor out there, based on my interactions with the community.

The second biggest negative/problem to overcome is making access to the Dome easier. I know a lot of people that would like to go to the Dome, are big fans, have the money and the inclination to be season ticket holders, but do not go because they can't afford parking that gets them close enough to the Dome to make for a walk they can handle, and are unwilling to shuttle. They tell me the walk from Sims to the Dome is too long, and they are too out of shape or too old to do it anymore.

This is the downside to having a stadium on campus, where it is difficult to provide mass transportation to people with issues walking significant distances. Even walking a couple of blocks up a hill can be tough on a lot of people. When I ask people why they don't go to games, this is the second most common answer.

I don't know that there is an easy solution. The Dome's location makes it really tough to provide easy access to a lot of people. I see busses for people with disabilities that drop people off next to the Dome but the people I am talking about aren't disabled. They just can't walk the equivalent of 5 or 6 city blocks to get to the Dome, and back again afterwards.

Don't think it is a big driver, but the food choices, even with one stand selling loaded nachos and another selling chicken tenders, onion rings and sweet potato fries, are not good. The best stadia I visit on road trips I make feature food native and special to the region they are in. There is nothing like that at the Dome. Everything is generic and can be found in just about any other stadium in the country. Would like to see things like salt potatoes, chicken riggies, coneys, fried haddock sandwiches, spiedies, chicken wings, apple fritters, cider donuts, half moon cookies, and of course, Dino BBQ.

If it is not possible to prepare some of these things in the Dome, I like the idea of allowing people to leave the Dome during the game and get food outside, where restrictions on open flames, etc. can and should be relaxed. There should be sufficient room outside to set up seating areas, and even set up mini restaurants. Wouldn't it be great to have a mini Dino, Pastabilities, Avicollis, Clarks Ale House, etc. right outside the Dome? This would also help address the problems with congestion in the Dome concourses before games, during halftime, etc.

Pricing for season tickets has been horribly screwed up for decades and needs to be addressed. IMHO, the thing to focus on for now are the number of people in the stands, not the revenue coming in. Lower prices for the best seats, give a graduated break to people who purchase season tickets based on how many they buy, and make it clearly cheaper to buy season tickets than to buy tickets to individual games.

And one other thing: ginger ale should be available in the Dome.

Great post Tom, thought you nailed it big time with your thoughts on accessibility to the Dome and the food options. Most of our group usually eats at the Fine Lot tailgate so I almost never eat at the dome save for the occasional basketball game and I have to say the offerings are terrible. The same 3 items of a pretzel, popcorn, or a dome dog have been there since the 80's and they taste like it to. Good to hear there a few new options but they seem to have very very very limited availability. Would be nice if SU could roll those items out across the dome instead of one section for each.

Also as Tom noted with all of the fantatic food options available in Syracuse why not try negotiating with a Dinosaur, Tullys, Gianelli, Limp Lizard, Middle Ages, Empire etc etc and get some new and exciting food options in the dome. Not only would it help draw a crowd it would pull in a hell of a lot more money then that crap is brining into the coffers currently.

One positive note is the continued variety SU is offering with alcohol. Bringing in Saranac, Beak & Skiff cider, and wine slushies was long overdue, good call by whoever instituted that.

 

[OrangeMon]

Individual seats, at least in the lower sections.

As other's have mentioned, better food options. Why can't the University and the Dinosaur BBQ work something out to open a counter in the Dome? On the same note, more "local" foods should be available at the Dome (i.e. salt potatoes, Tully's tenders).

Ops, didn't see Jeremy's post above.

 

[FAL]

Appreciate you continuing to actively look for suggestions. Here are some thoughts for you...

The biggest single thing that will increase football attendance is putting a better product out on the field. The last few seasons, even with a relatively competitive team, there have been a lot of poor performances at home. Even when they win, they tend to play pretty poorly (think Toledo and Villanova). And the offense, other than that one magical 2013 season, has been consistently bad. Most people like to see high scores games, an offense that puts points on the board and is exciting to watch.

But far more important than style of play, the team needs to win. A significant percentage of the possible audience just won't support a team that does not consistently win. I know this is out of your control, but it is the biggest factor out there, based on my interactions with the community.

The second biggest negative/problem to overcome is making access to the Dome easier. I know a lot of people that would like to go to the Dome, are big fans, have the money and the inclination to be season ticket holders, but do not go because they can't afford parking that gets them close enough to the Dome to make for a walk they can handle, and are unwilling to shuttle. They tell me the walk from Sims to the Dome is too long, and they are too out of shape or too old to do it anymore.

This is the downside to having a stadium on campus, where it is difficult to provide mass transportation to people with issues walking significant distances. Even walking a couple of blocks up a hill can be tough on a lot of people. When I ask people why they don't go to games, this is the second most common answer.

I don't know that there is an easy solution. The Dome's location makes it really tough to provide easy access to a lot of people. I see busses for people with disabilities that drop people off next to the Dome but the people I am talking about aren't disabled. They just can't walk the equivalent of 5 or 6 city blocks to get to the Dome, and back again afterwards.

Don't think it is a big driver, but the food choices, even with one stand selling loaded nachos and another selling chicken tenders, onion rings and sweet potato fries, are not good. The best stadia I visit on road trips I make feature food native and special to the region they are in. There is nothing like that at the Dome. Everything is generic and can be found in just about any other stadium in the country. Would like to see things like salt potatoes, chicken riggies, coneys, fried haddock sandwiches, spiedies, chicken wings, apple fritters, cider donuts, half moon cookies, and of course, Dino BBQ.

If it is not possible to prepare some of these things in the Dome, I like the idea of allowing people to leave the Dome during the game and get food outside, where restrictions on open flames, etc. can and should be relaxed. There should be sufficient room outside to set up seating areas, and even set up mini restaurants. Wouldn't it be great to have a mini Dino, Pastabilities, Avicollis, Clarks Ale House, etc. right outside the Dome? This would also help address the problems with congestion in the Dome concourses before games, during halftime, etc.

Pricing for season tickets has been horribly screwed up for decades and needs to be addressed. IMHO, the thing to focus on for now are the number of people in the stands, not the revenue coming in. Lower prices for the best seats, give a graduated break to people who purchase season tickets based on how many they buy, and make it clearly cheaper to buy season tickets than to buy tickets to individual games.

And one other thing: ginger ale should be available in the Dome.

100% agreement. Er...except maybe that thing about ginger ale... Just sayin...

 

[OburgOrange]

So i think i may have lit a fire under some of you, huh? LOVE this type of feedback. I sell all sports but I am here in my hometown to do one thing, bring back football.

I think there is a lot of 'do-able' things here. I have a lot of ideas just from being out sick looking at what other schools do. Students or regular fans.

I am very happy one of my programs absolutely exploded -- The teacher's offer. Something I hope forever continues and improves. Not to get into specifics but I saw well over 1000 NEW tickets come from that in just three games. Now I will be following up with all those people during the off season for mini plans and season tickets. SO much can be done to improve the experience and the attendance and that is why your input is AWESOME.

This is what makes it YOUR program. It is YOUR entertainment. I want you guys to start noticing differences. I'll be happy to let you guys know when we are doing things to improve upon YOUR experience.

Keep 'em coming!!

I noticed the football ticket offer in my monthly PEF magazine, which I recommended .Did you get a good response from it?

 

[fairfaxcuse]

Appreciate you continuing to actively look for suggestions. Here are some thoughts for you......

My suggestion to Dan is to read suggestions like the one above from Tom and get the higher ups to come up with an action plan that shows why we should buy tix and donate money. I view the ad dept as quite distant; not unfriendly, but i also question their basics of selling their product. This is not just three game packages, discounted tix, etc (though these can be part of a broader solution). Its more about a bigger strategy to convince your base that the dollars are being invested wisely. As noted above, it includes investing in upgrading the dome experience itself, developing other plans to fix season tix plans, getting people into the seats (i don't care if a kid comes in for free and i have to pay...) and introducing transparency in how the dollars spent are being used (e.g., do my season tix donation really go to the football program? if so, why do my physical seats look the same as they did in 1980? why does su send me surveys about marketing campaigns rather than, say, the tradition of 44?, etc). Sadly, this year I didn't renew my seasons tix after holding them since 1980. I felt terrible about doing so as the tix were an extension of games w/ my dad and grandfather, but the travel was expensive with my kids. Truthfully though, I would have probably stayed, at least in some capacity, if someone at SU said, what can be done to get you to come back even on a more limited scale because here is what we are trying to do here. With that said, I have a strong desire to see you succeed despite my current grim outlook and am encouraged specifically by your efforts to reach out to the fan base. The good news is that you are starting to ask the right questions and reporting back on some notable progress (kudos on the teacher initiative).

 

[CuseOnly]

Do you know how the pricing is done on those 5x seats?

Yes, ass backwards. I think the entire pricing structure needs to be scrapped and redone.

 

[rrlbees]

Yes, ass backwards. I think the entire pricing structure needs to be scrapped and redone.

Ass backwards isn't an answer. Do you understand how they do it?

 

[UnknownOrange]

I noticed the football ticket offer in my monthly PEF magazine, which I recommended .Did you get a good response from it?

I believe it finished over 30 sold... which hey. I'LL TAKE!