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I so very much miss MSG and the Big East Tournament

I hope the ACC comes to its senses and tries to get into NYC sooner rather than later...

On the scale of conference tourney location greatness, MSG is a 10, Greensboro is a 1, and DC/Brooklyn are like a 7.

The nice thing about DC and Brooklyn (like MSG) is that you don't have to worry about driving, and you have an endless selection of bars and restaurants. In Greensboro, I assume Cracker Barrel is pretty much where everyone goes in-between games.
 
Forgetting the location, the ACCT itself has nowhere near the buzz as the old BET. I used to be riveted to all the games. That's no longer the case for me, despite the presence of the many heavyweight programs.
 
Forgetting the location, the ACCT itself has nowhere near the buzz as the old BET. I used to be riveted to all the games. That's no longer the case for me, despite the presence of the many heavyweight programs.

That's interesting. I went the opposite direction with the old BET. There were several games that I found it hard to get into - mostly among the non-traditional BE teams. But that's the case with all the conference tournaments. There really isn't one conference that I enjoy so much that I watch every single game. I love watching the games but I find myself mainly just watching whatever the best game on is at the time, regardless of conference.

I realize my perspective is probably different than most since it's been years since I lived in New York and have since lived in Georgia and Kansas so have gotten used to watching and enjoying other conferences.
 
That's interesting. I went the opposite direction with the old BET. There were several games that I found it hard to get into - mostly among the non-traditional BE teams. But that's the case with all the conference tournaments. There really isn't one conference that I enjoy so much that I watch every single game. I love watching the games but I find myself mainly just watching whatever the best game on is at the time, regardless of conference.

I realize my perspective is probably different than most since it's been years since I lived in New York and have since lived in Georgia and Kansas so have gotten used to watching and enjoying other conferences.
I guess I'm just old and jaded now. I recall so many outstanding BETs and was present for a lot of them at MSG and for the one in Syracuse in 1981. Lots of great memories of the SU games and all the tremendous players who have come though the program, and of course vivid memories of where I was and the people I was with.
 
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I live 20 miles, 40 minutes to midtown Manhattan and am going to DC this year. Brooklyn is gonna be a hassle. Part of the charm of Greensboro that not many 'Cuse fans have embraced is each school has its own hotel where fans congregate, and the City of Greensboro really appreciates having the event. Also, the parking lot there is the size of an airport, and it is easy to tailgate between sessions. Brooklyn is gonna suck, unless you live in Nassau County. It's just not Manhattan. If it was a good location, the Dodgers would still be there.
 
Forgetting the location, the ACCT itself has nowhere near the buzz as the old BET. I used to be riveted to all the games. That's no longer the case for me, despite the presence of the many heavyweight programs.
That's just a math problem. The old Big East had 9 teams, at least 7 were good every year, and 4 would be top 16. The problem with the ACC is the real tournament starts Thursday, when it is whittled down to 8. From that point on, every game is excellent. The first two days are a drag though.
 
I guess I'm just old and jaded now. I recall so many outstanding BETs and was present for a lot of them at MSG and for the one in Syracuse in 1981. Lots of great memories of the SU games and all the tremdous players who have come though the program, and of course vivid memories of where I was and the people I was with.

I totally get it. If I had been able to attend any tournaments at MSG, I can almost guarantee my perspective would be different.
 
I used to closely follow the seedings and pairings when SU was in the Big East.

I went to just about every BE tourney.

Now I don't even follow it.

The ACC tourney is meaningless to me.
 
... If it was a good location, the Dodgers would still be there.

2016 Brooklyn = 1957 Brooklyn?

It's no Garden, and nothing these TV scheduling conglomerations attempt can match the excitement of the old regional conferences, but it'll be a fine venue - better than most.
 
I'm sure you can get a good ticket for the current BE lineup. The only people who should miss it are UConn people.

Lots of people are talking about the tournament in DC, lots of powerhouse programs, central location, fans and alumni of most of the schools well represented here.
 
To each their own, but I'm not really into tailgating for basketball games. I'd rather be in a cozy bar with TVs showing like 5 different games at once.


It was really random.

Cuse had a massive room set aside - like a ballroom - for parties.

Outside the ACC had a tailgate set up, food, beers, big screens. The weather was so nice people left the arena to watch the games outside. It was different for sure.
 
We haven't experienced the ACCT yet. We've played 1 game the last 2 years. The next 3 tourneys are in DC and Brooklyn, venues SU fans can get to and should offer a good experience -- if our team can be competitive and win a few games. Part of the fun at MSG was most years SU was a threat to win the tourney or at least many years at least make the semis. If we start winning our fans will begin to like the ACCT. Winning changes everything.
 
A comparison between MSG and the heart of Manhattan vs. Brooklyn...

I have yet to go to the Barclay Center for any event, shame on me. MSG I can walk to, but even so Barclay's is a pretty easy train ride away. I understand the venue itself is very nice, certainly comparable to the spruced up MSG. As for dining/drinking in the area, my guess is the longer it's there the more the choices will expand. The surrounding neighborhoods. like Fort Greene, are already very gentrified. Brooklyn Heights, a stop or two away, or maybe a 15 minute walk at a guy's pace, always has been THE prestigious neighborhood in the borough.

As for traveling, a good dozen trains stop at either the Atlantic Av or Pacific St stops which interconnect, plus the LIRR. It's better than Yankee Stadium and definitely Citi Field in that regard. Parking is likely a pain though.
 
I hope the ACC comes to its senses and tries to get into NYC sooner rather than later...
I wax nostalgic more than most, and I of course miss MSG, but I cannot emphasis just how much I love being in the ACC. What a nearly perfect landing spot for SU's football, hoops, lax (and other sports) programs. We should all be thrilled.

Missing MSG at this time of year is akin to those who miss games being played at Manley. It was a great place and time, but the Dome elevated our athletics department to heights never seen.

Manley : Dome
Missing MSG : ACC membership

The ACC has afforded our athletic department a seat at the big boy table.

Power 5 seat > Annual BE Tourney at MSG.
(and it is not even close)
 

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