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If I were Autry

I’d like to see JJ Moore Taylor Freeman Lampkin start

I’d try Cuffe and JJ in the backcourt

I’d like to see JJ Taylor Davis Freeman Lampkin trotted out there for more than a couple mins as well.

Will it work? Who knows. But we all know 30+ mins of Carlos hasn’t and won’t.
It’s soo uncomfortable not having a set rotation…but yeah, Bell is dead to me too.
 
It’s more nuanced than that. Leffew committed and then screwed us over. Red did not bring in Carlos to be a starter and that’s a fact. Leffew’s double-cross forced the issue.

He didn’t ask for Starling to break his wrist, either.

It’s like expecting to work with a MacBook Pro, only to have it stolen. Then you’re stuck with the 10-year-old Dell laptop you found in the closet. Your performance is not going to be the same.
This makes sense if Red is the 10-year-old Dell laptop. Our performance isn't going to be the same with an incompetent coach.
 
It’s soo uncomfortable not having a set rotation…but yeah, Bell is dead to me too.

100 percent.

And to be clear this isn’t suggest the team will be good or anything. It’s just seeing if Red is simply working with a broken team and no one could do better. If he can use glue and somehow get a couple wins here and there with new lineups and some different gameplans, at least we won’t be dreading year 3.

If he trots out Carlos for 35 mins and we see the same set with Lampkin up top doing handoffs to Carlos to drive into nowhere, I’m out, I’d like him gone
 
I’d like to see JJ Moore Taylor Freeman Lampkin start

I’d try Cuffe and JJ in the backcourt

I’d like to see JJ Taylor Davis Freeman Lampkin trotted out there for more than a couple mins as well.

Will it work? Who knows. But we all know 30+ mins of Carlos hasn’t and won’t.

Before JJ went down he had 21 / 26 / 19 minutes. He's so overexposed right now.
 
Before JJ went down he had 21 / 26 / 19 minutes. He's so overexposed right now.
And still those were 16 / 21 / 14 minutes too much. The guy stinks.

The past page or so of posts had been very enlightening and a very valuable read. Thanks to everyone for opening up and actually discussing specifics. It makes this board a million times better.
 
Did we get a loan for Lampkin?

Again, I'll only share what I know.

The answer is: kind of. From what I understand, we had a single booster who ponied up the funds for Lampkin. Then, when it turned into a bidding war, the coaching staff had to go back to the booster and ask for more $$$ to outbid the SEC school, and then they had to go BACK to the booster a third time when Lampkin raised his price again and had some additional demands.

Wish we'd paid Jesse Edwards to say in 2023-2024, since we did this two years later for a lesser player.

But I digress. Not a "loan," because we are not on the hook for paying it back, but we did have to go "ask" for the resources. It wasn't like we had a coffer of X amount, and we spent X out of that and had Y remaining for others. We had a booster cover the cost of Lampkin, and then we had to go back asking for more when the price went up.
 
Regarding Carlos, I would be okay with about 5-7 minutes a game tops. It's gotten to the point now where I spend most of each game getting madder and madder at my tv watching him play 35-37 minutes a game, like no one else can do what he does... miss baskets, dribble the basketball ball around, pass along the perimeter.

This anger thing is new to me. I don't recall watching games before where I'm just mad. Maybe frustrated, sad, disappointed, but not mad. I think it comes from the fact that it should be obvious to our head coach that he ain't the answer, yet he continues to log more minutes than anyone else on the team. Hell, toss Lobdell in there for a few minutes as well since we're just resigned to lose games.
 
If it were only 14 minutes.

I'd be ok with him at 10-12 minutes as a change of pace and getting to the line, except his FT% is 20% lower than last season.
That’s fine. Personally I think he’s awful. Like unplayable awful. But if we had an actual PG I guess 10 mins a night might not be catastrophic. I’d likely lean more to the 4-6 mins a night end though.
 
Again, I'll only share what I know.

The answer is: kind of. From what I understand, we had a single booster who ponied up the funds for Lampkin. Then, when it turned into a bidding war, the coaching staff had to go back to the booster and ask for more $$$ to outbid the SEC school, and then they had to go BACK to the booster a third time when Lampkin raised his price again and had some additional demands.

Wish we'd paid Jesse Edwards to say in 2023-2024, since we did this two years later for a lesser player.

But I digress. Not a "loan," because we are not on the hook for paying it back, but we did have to go "ask" for the resources. It wasn't like we had a coffer of X amount, and we spent X out of that and had Y remaining for others. We had a booster cover the cost of Lampkin, and then we had to go back asking for more when the price went up.
Appreciate you sharing and agree 100% with your Edwards comment.
 
Regarding Carlos, I would be okay with about 5-7 minutes a game tops. It's gotten to the point now where I spend most of each game getting madder and madder at my tv watching him play 35-37 minutes a game, like no one else can do what he does... miss baskets, dribble the basketball ball around, pass along the perimeter.

This anger thing is new to me. I don't recall watching games before where I'm just mad. Maybe frustrated, sad, disappointed, but not mad. I think it comes from the fact that it should be obvious to our head coach that he ain't the answer, yet he continues to log more minutes than anyone else on the team. Hell, toss Lobdell in there for a few minutes as well since we're just resigned to lose games.

I try to start every game now 100% dead inside.

Otherwise, rants, yelling, and expletives... the dog starts shaking terrified, my day gets ruined, more beers than necessary are consumed... it all goes sideways.

I can't care that much anymore for my own sanity.
 
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The guy has been here less than a year and a half and you want to ride him out of here. Just stop with the I love him as a human being crap when you don't even want to give him a reasonable amount of time to get it going again.
He gets paid $3,000,000+ a year. I'm sorry, you don't get on the job training when you're making that much.
 
I know you don’t. What does that say about you?
Bro, he's the head coach of a D-1 hoops program and gets payed well to win and HIS players are not winning ... Take off the Orange sunglasses and realize he MUST replaced if he can't do the job.. feelings have NOTHING to do with it its a business..
 
Curious about the timing of this stuff with Maliq. Maliq officially declared for the portal on April 1st, and Lampkin commits the next day. Were these negotiations happening after we 100% knew Maliq was out of the picture?

RF2044's version of thing's shows how it is not always as simple as us having a certain amount of money to work with as a whole and dividing that amount amongst prospective transfers/current players. If the system as it is now regularly involves going after a specific booster for a specific player, that as another element entirely than what pro sport GMs have to deal with. Not defending getting in a major money battle over Lampkin with how things are going this year, and especially if Maliq was out of the picture, but maybe it's not as simple as a bunch of extra money for Lampkin meaning a bunch less for other recruits.
 
Again, I'll only share what I know.

The answer is: kind of. From what I understand, we had a single booster who ponied up the funds for Lampkin. Then, when it turned into a bidding war, the coaching staff had to go back to the booster and ask for more $$$ to outbid the SEC school, and then they had to go BACK to the booster a third time when Lampkin raised his price again and had some additional demands.

Wish we'd paid Jesse Edwards to say in 2023-2024, since we did this two years later for a lesser player.

But I digress. Not a "loan," because we are not on the hook for paying it back, but we did have to go "ask" for the resources. It wasn't like we had a coffer of X amount, and we spent X out of that and had Y remaining for others. We had a booster cover the cost of Lampkin, and then we had to go back asking for more when the price went up.

And after all the top-offs, you'd think we could get him in shape and he'd be motivated to do so...

Evidently he dropped weight and was more productive when at TCU. Slickback Dixon got a tune out of him...
 
And after all the top-offs, you'd think we could get him in shape and he'd be motivated to do so...

Evidently he dropped weight and was more productive when at TCU. Slickback Dixon got a tune out of him...

A lot of people here like to hate Dixon but I always felt he got the most of his players.
 
I try to start every game now 100% dead inside.

Otherwise, rants, yelling, and expletives... the dog starts shaking terrified, my day gets ruined, more beers than necessary are consumed... it all goes sideways.

I can't care that much anymore for my own sanity.

That's hilarious if it weren't actually somewhat true.

Understand John Cena GIF
 
I’d like to see JJ Moore Taylor Freeman Lampkin start

I’d try Cuffe and JJ in the backcourt

I’d like to see JJ Taylor Davis Freeman Lampkin trotted out there for more than a couple mins as well.

Will it work? Who knows. But we all know 30+ mins of Carlos hasn’t and won’t.

Agree with this. My worry is that the schedule is going to get way harder after the next three games - FSU, GT and BC. I really hope JJ can get back before this three game run ends so he can get his sea legs and Red can maybe make some adjustments with him in the lineup before we really get into the teeth of the schedule.
 
I can share this -- we got Lampkin originally for about half of what we ended up having to pay him. Kid was excited to come here, and committed to Syracuse not long after he showed out in the NCAA tournament.

The coaching staff crossed center off the list, and started working other players in the portal to fill other needs. Several weeks later, Lampkin came back to the coaching staff with a much higher demand. Why? Because an SEC school in his home state made overtures, and bid him up.

Chip and Bayside can probably speak to this better, but the hoops program has some mathematical models about how much they think players are "worth." What Lampkin asked for exceeded the value that they projected, but at that late stage we couldn't pivot easily and didn't have alternatives, so they came up with the extra $$$. And when he dragged his feet and came back with additional demands, we ponied up [and not all of the demands were cash considerations].

Bottom line, what we ended up paying for Lampkin and what we initially got him for were two different numbers. That MAY have impacted the NIL coffers and limited how we could spend on other players -- but to me the bottom line is that it was merely a symptom of the actual problem, that our NIL war chest is too small
well the football $$$$$ landscape aint changing so we might as well just give up on hoops, in that case

SEC is taking over bball...whats going to stop that from continuing?
 
A lot of people here like to hate Dixon but I always felt he got the most of his players.

He's a good coach...

I never just liked his sideline demeanor - bit of a spaz... and I thought it was funny how all the hand checking his PITT teams got away with in the BE was exactly why PITT always got bounced from the NCAA Tourney because it never flew in the Tourney (unless you were Pitino... LOL.)
 
I’m saying we chose to give him a car and bump his NIL up 100 because we felt we needed him on this team.

Matter of fact statement that you and I agree with.

I don’t believe he was worth it. I debated with you at the time about it. Period. I believe we would have been better using the funds on a PG.

So when I see thinks like “we couldn’t pay for so and so”. I say BS. We couldn’t pay for Lampkin AND a PG. I’ll agree with that
yeah yeah but i saw another post somewhere about some small school PG that signed after carlos and is killing it right now for some name school in the northeast...there were other options besides carlos

just gotta be able to find lesser known gems ... they ARE out there
 
Exactly.

With what we have in terms of resources is making the NCAAT, at any seeding, a fair expectation?

Because I would wager that we should be able to do that.

I don’t care about the SEC teams, especially the ones at the top. Everyone knows the SEC has more money. That’s not news. That’s why we’re not asking to go to the Final Four. We’re asking to make the tournament. Or just beat Wake Forest at home. Or not go to OT with Youngstown St at home.

Now, we had to wade through the nonsense of Eddie being all world and hilariously being told he was in shape and could play D. And the absurdity of Jaquan’s capabilities PR spin.

This staff and program got worked by Eddie. They made a bad bet and got beat fully. The fact that they even targeted an out of shape center who isn’t good on D is hilarious to even begin with.

They also left us in the lurch at PG at a depressed level arguably never seen before in this program’s history.

Couple this with the inability of Red to coach and we’re where we are. Doesn’t make Red a bad guy.

We bet big on the wrong guys. Got beat in the process and are stuck where we are.
or to make the ACC Tournament
 

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