Ineligible Receiver Downfield

[Scooch]

It was close but I can't fault the ref for calling it.

As SU fans we're going to take note of every call, or non-call, that went against us. At the same time we got away with a few too. There was an incompletion in the end zone where a PI could have been called against us, but wasn't. Stuff happens.

 

[SmilinBob]

By the way, that was a nice catch by Hackett!

 

[ForCuseSake]

This was a tight call but it's hard to argue when considering refs are deciding in real time.

The two things I think contributed more to the loss (rather than this penalty) were the number of drive killing failed gadget plays on offense (e.g. jet sweeps, shovel passes, etc.) and keeping only 7 in the box on D in the second half.

Defense played fantastic yesterday against superior talent and was gassed due to lack of offensive production in the second half.

I hated seeing 7 in the box on Clemson's last TD drive. It was pre-vent all the way. I wanted Cordy or Cisco in the box for no other reason than to tempt the Clemson OC to call a pass play.

 

[cuse10]

This was a tight call but it's hard to argue when considering refs are deciding in real time.

The two things I think contributed more to the loss (rather than this penalty) were the number of drive killing failed gadget plays on offense (e.g. jet sweeps, shovel passes, etc.) and keeping only 7 in the box on D in the second half.

Defense played fantastic yesterday against superior talent and was gassed due to lack of offensive production in the second half.

I hated seeing 7 in the box on Clemson's last TD drive. It was pre-vent all the way. I wanted Cordy or Cisco in the box for no other reason than to tempt the Clemson OC to call a pass play.

Cisco and Cordy didn't play well Saturday. Cisco avoided tackling Etienne on his TD run and got faked out by the QB on the 4th and 6. It was his play to make. Cordy wasn't a factor at all IMO. The Renfrow catch never gets made if Cordy tracked the ball instead of running full steam at the receiver. Small things like that pile up and lead to a loss.

 

[sufandu]

Gym class. Bur I've watched it since the early 60's.

And even in the early 60's guys were taught to watch keys to know what the other team is doing and how to react. They're watching the directly opposing player's eyes, hips, etc. while also trying keep a less focused eye on other parts of the field as the play develops. Of course all of this happens in what, 3-4 seconds? It's not realistic to expect players to identify the numbers of opposing players post snap to recognize whether they are eligible or not.

 

[CousCuse]

Ultimately, the penalty in question had no bearing on the play. It didn't draw coverage from the receiver to allow the catch to be made. He wasn't down blocking for the receiver after the catch. It was in no way part of the play. It was an intentional call to break Syracuse's momentum and give Clemson a chance.

 

[Crusty]

Ultimately, the penalty in question had no bearing on the play. It didn't draw coverage from the receiver to allow the catch to be made. He wasn't down blocking for the receiver after the catch. It was in no way part of the play. It was an intentional call to break Syracuse's momentum and give Clemson a chance.

If it makes you feel better to believe that go right ahead. But the same argument can be made on a multitude of holding, block in the back and other penalties. Heck, uncovered receivers can be the the same thing.

 

[upperdeck]

the ref called it because he saw a guy on a pass play just over 3 yds down field.. whether the ball had been thrown or not probably he has no idea. i dont think screwing over SU was really part of the call.

 

[CousCuse]

If it makes you feel better to believe that go right ahead. But the same argument can be made on a multitude of holding, block in the back and other penalties. Heck, uncovered receivers can be the the same thing.

I know when I'm getting the business.