Is .500 in serious jeopardy?

[SWC75]

Not all assists are equal. Also, he's played 40, 35 and 44 minutes in each of those games. And, his usage % is 26%. If he didn't have that many assists it would be awful as a guard with having the ball that much.

If you feel Buddy isn't a black hole, we can agree to disagree. I respect your opinion, just don't agree with it.

A few games ago, Joe got blitzed on the screening action, side stepped and made a 25 foot pass across the paint to Jesse and hit him in his catching pocket. It was a thing of beauty. It led to two easy points (if Im remembering correctly).

Buddy cannot functionally make that same pass and that is the pass he needs to be able to make to fundamentally change the way teams defend us because of the usage he has with the ball.

Again, all good if we disagree, I just don't think Buddy is elevating the team with how much he has the ball.

Buddy is not a point guard and he doesn't make the passes a point guard can make. But he does give the ball up when he can get it to an open teammate. Jimmy is the black hole, (or white hole?)

Buddy's assist per 40m have grown from 2.4 as a freshman to 4.0 this year, which is good for a 2 guard. Joe, playing the point is at just 5.4 Jimmy? 1.3.

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if Jimmy could feed the post, his assists would go way up and so would his own shooting percentage.

 

[SWC75]

What about the rest of point.
Buddy shouldn’t have to be the best player on this team but he is.

Which means that JB sticking with him, (or Jimmy) isn't nepotism.

 

[Alsacs]

Which means that JB sticking with him, (or Jimmy) isn't nepotism.

Roster management being done the way it was makes your statement accurate.
But that means JB should was negligent in building a flawed roster set up so his rotations couldn’t be questioned.

 

[SWC75]

Roster management being done the way it was makes your statement accurate.
But that means JB should was negligible in building a flawed roster set up so his rotations couldn’t be questioned.

negligible: "so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering; insignificant." Spell-check strikes again!

I assume you mean 'negligent'. Are you implying that he purposely recruited a weak roster so no one would question him playing his sons so much?

 

[djcon57]

negligible: "so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering; insignificant." Spell-check strikes again!

I assume you mean 'negligent'. Are you implying that he purposely recruited a weak roster so no one would question him playing his sons so much?

No, he thought his sons and his friends were much better than they are, so he purposely recruited no bench (Or bench players with severe flaws, like they can’t shoot) so that their playing time couldn’t be questioned.

7-8.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Yeah, btw, I'm not even knocking the players when I say this stuff. The team is what it is.

Guys are just trying to do things that really can't do, or at least can't do consistently.

Yeah, the big picture is not the players’ fault. Sure, jacking a 30’ fade away, trying to jump stop through 2 guys, fouling on a fastbreak with 4 fouls, not hustling for a loose ball…. There are individual plays in games that can be attributed to the personal fault of a player, but that happens. Overall though, and you said it and many have, it’s just players in roles requiring them to consistently do things they can’t. Some things we can get better at but some we can’t. And because of that, the ceiling is simply capped.

 

[MikeSU02]

Buddy is not a point guard and he doesn't make the passes a point guard can make. But he does give the ball up when he can get it to an open teammate. Jimmy is the black hole, (or white hole?)

Buddy's assist per 40m have grown from 2.4 as a freshman to 4.0 this year, which is good for a 2 guard. Joe, playing the point is at just 5.4 Jimmy? 1.3.

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if Jimmy could feed the post, his assists would go way up and so would his own shooting percentage.

If your usage rate is 26% and you are dominating shots per game, you own the ceiling of the team on the floor (to be clear, my issue is with JB, not Buddy).

We get hung up on these positional names that are archaic and teams don't even use a lot of the time, at least in the NBA (which, I understand, is not college).

Buddy cannot have the ball in his hands that much and just write off his inefficiency as being a 2G. He owns the ball when he's on the court. So, yes, sure, he's a 2G or sometimes SF. But if he's going to have the ball that much and he can't make those passes, then his scoring has to jump up BIG TIME in efficiency.

I just don't think you're looking at this through the same filter I am. Which is totally fine. But I honestly don't care that Buddy is fine for a 2 guard for assists per 40. The way he is dominating the ball demands he does better, imo.

[Edit: Again, SWC, respect your position, we just fundamentally disagree here]

 

[Alsacs]

negligible: "so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering; insignificant." Spell-check strikes again!

I assume you mean 'negligent'. Are you implying that he purposely recruited a weak roster so no one would question him playing his sons so much?

My spell check changed the word.
Also the next post after yours answered your question.

 

[SWC75]

No, he thought his sons and his friends were much better than they are, so he purposely recruited no bench (Or bench players with severe flaws, like they can’t shoot) so that their playing time couldn’t be questioned.

7-8.

Benny Williams was the #32 player in the country, per 247
Symir Torrance had been #75
Frank Anselem was as high as #85 from his history. That rose, (declined?) to #201 but he was still rated the #32 center prospect in the country.

They were purposely recruited so that the minutes our starters played couldn't be questioned? Were Guerrier, Griffin, Braswell, Newton and Richmond 'run off' for the same purpose?

 

[Fly Rodder]

HS rankings don’t mean much in the grand scheme of things. Especially once players have a season or two of college. Kids can be highly ranked because of any number of attributes not all mean they’re automatically a great player. Some need seasoning or development but have tools.

And players can leave if they see or are informed of a lack of minutes or a loss of a position.

 

[Fly Rodder]

And however we got here, this is the roster and starting 5 JAB wanted.

 

[two3zone]

Benny Williams was the #32 player in the country, per 247
Symir Torrance had been #75
Frank Anselem was as high as #85 from his history. That rose, (declined?) to #201 but he was still rated the #32 center prospect in the country.

They were purposely recruited so that the minutes our starters played couldn't be questioned? Were Guerrier, Griffin, Braswell, Newton and Richmond 'run off' for the same purpose?

Two years of Symir stats at Marquette trump whatever his rankings were 3 years ago.

 

[SWC75]

And however we got here, this is the roster and starting 5 JAB wanted.

But are you guys really saying that JB purposely recruited a weak bench so that he could play his sons 35+ without controversy? That's a Q-Anon level theory.

When we got Benny, did anyone say that JB recruited him because he'd be no threat to Jimmy? And didn't we get Benny first?

 

[Alsacs]

But are you guys really saying that JB purposely recruited a weak bench so that he could play his sons 35+ without controversy? That's a Q-Anon level theory.

When we got Benny, did anyone say that JB recruited him because he'd be no threat to Jimmy? And didn't we get Benny first?

Your questions can’t be answered.

We literally only have 3 scholarship guards on the roster.
We literally only have 3 scholarship forwards on the roster.


No need to say anymore. You saying it’s Q-anon is a joke.
Sorry SWC.

 

[SWC75]

Your questions can’t be answered.

We literally only have 3 scholarship guards on the roster.
We literally only have 3 scholarship forwards on the roster.


No need to say anymore. You saying it’s Q-anon is a joke.
Sorry SWC.

The theory that JB intentionally recruited a weak bench to showcase his sons is the joke. You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves for suggesting it.

 

[Alsacs]

The theory that JB intentionally recruited a weak bench to showcase his sons is the joke. You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves for suggesting it

Why did JB say he turned down players who wanted to come here?
He said thst.
Why do we have 2 essential walkons on scholarship?
Why are we recruiting players who can’t actually play and contribute for multiple years?

You think people want to have the opinion you are trying to shame. That is the joke.
Your questions can’t even be answered and you are the one trying to have the high ground get out of here with that.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

The theory that JB intentionally recruited a weak bench to showcase his sons is the joke. You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves for suggesting it

Why did JB say he turned down players who wanted to come here?
He said thst.
Why do we have 2 essential walkons on scholarship?
Why are we recruiting players who can’t actually play and contribute for multiple years?

You think people want to have the opinion you are trying to shame. That is the joke.
Your questions can’t even be answered and you are the one trying to have the high ground get out of here with that.

Why did he let other players leave?

 

[Alsacs]

Why did he let other players leave?

We literally lost more players than we brought in but he can’t even figure that out.

We haven’t recruited a Freshman SG for 3 years but he can’t figure a theory why?
It’s maddening because he is making the theory of why the equivalent of Pizzagate but yeah let’s say that.

 

[LaggyJon]

The theory that JB intentionally recruited a weak bench to showcase his sons is the joke. You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves for suggesting it.

The alternative is that he *wildly* misevaluated the talent on his roster, especially in the context of him saying that there were more people in the portal that wanted to come but that he turned them away.

I do agree that the more conspiratorial views are pretty unlikely...but I don't know if the alternative is any less damning.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

But are you guys really saying that JB purposely recruited a weak bench so that he could play his sons 35+ without controversy? That's a Q-Anon level theory.

When we got Benny, did anyone say that JB recruited him because he'd be no threat to Jimmy? And didn't we get Benny first?

I think at this stage of things JB likes clarity on roles.

He knew with Symir he had a bench guard that wasn't going to create any friction with returning starters at guard.

He knew that between Edwards, Frankie, and potentially a healthy Sidibe he could get a 2 man center rotation.

Benny was the wild card.

But other than that, it was very clear how this team was going to look, and I do think it was the lineup and roles he wanted.

He didn't want other options and the potential to disrupt things. He didn't want other scholarship level players to provide some injury insurance.

I don't think it was about featuring his boys. But I do think at this late stage in his career it's pretty obvious he's going to ride the starters and if you come off the bench you better be content with that reality and a limited role.