Is it crazy to think we can win the ACC?

[CousCuse]

Mathematically the Pirates have a chance next season.

Have you watched the other teams in this league? It NASCAR, everybody has the same cars.

 

[goofnoff]

Is it, though? Is it?

I definitely think so.

 

[orangenauburn]

That Pitt loss kills. FSU just beat them at Pitt.

Amongst needed wins and lots of them we simply can't lose to FSU

Exactly. Had we beat Pitt and Miami, then sure, winning the ACC would be a relevant discussion.

But we didn't - unless we go 9-2 the rest of the season, it's not happening.

Heck, we probably need to go 9-2 for an outside chance of being in the discussion in March.

 

[donniesyracuse]

gotta love posters who immediately jump on any poster who says something positive and has hope.

That is a BS post. Nobody jumped on the poster. The question was literally “is it crazy…?” People answered.

 

[Orangezoo]

Exactly. Had we beat Pitt and Miami, then sure, winning the ACC would be a relevant discussion.

But we didn't - unless we go 9-2 the rest of the season, it's not happening.

Heck, we probably need to go 9-2 for an outside chance of being in the discussion in March.

9-2 or better is the only ticket. 8-3 and an ACC title game appearance... maybe. Otherwise anything else is ACCT win or bust.

 

[rrlbees]

That is a BS post. Nobody jumped on the poster. The question was literally “is it crazy…?” People answered.

Sure. Being told to deal with reality. And it’s not just this post/thread. Straight facts.

 

[Orangezoo]

Have you watched the other teams in this league? It NASCAR, everybody has the same cars.

Sure...

 

[Orangezoo]

Sure. Being told to deal with reality. And it’s not just this post/thread. Straight facts.

Yeah and some of those folks wrongly pointing at critics as haters... alongside then constantly throwing that same kind of shade at players... it's often a closed loop.

 

[bballbeadle]

The let down is less when they lose.

But hopefulness is such a wonderful emotional state.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Sure. Being told to deal with reality. And it’s not just this post/thread. Straight facts.

“Straight facts” like the caliber of ACC team we’ve beaten vs the ones we’ve yet to play.

Yeah I’m happy about the win and excited about the direction the team is going and the consistency with which some plays are playingz

But, I mean..

 

[Eric15]

Winning the conference regular season is pretty unlikely. The goal should be to scratch and claw to get the 4 seed. That way we only have to win 3 games in 3 days (maybe 2 if our resume is good enough at that point) against a weak field.

 

[OrangeDW]

“Straight facts” like the caliber of ACC team we’ve beaten vs the ones we’ve yet to play.

Yeah I’m happy about the win and excited about the direction the team is going and the consistency with which some plays are playingz

But, I mean..

13-7, haters! Eat it!!!

 

[Sherman20]

9-2 or better is the only ticket. 8-3 and an ACC title game appearance... maybe. Otherwise anything else is ACCT win or bust.

You think we need to go 15-5 in the ACC to make the tourney? Yea, I don’t agree with that. But we do need a bunch of quality wins, like beating UVA or Clemson on the road. Let’s start Tuesday with UNC.

 

[bballbeadle]

I thought this thread was about the ACC Tourney. But my comments stand!

 

[Orangezoo]

You think we need to go 15-5 in the ACC to make the tourney? Yea, I don’t agree with that. But we do need a bunch of quality wins, like beating UVA or Clemson on the road. Let’s start Tuesday with UNC.

So the comparison is ND last year, another year the league was down and ND, with a stronger non conference than we have had this year went 15-5 and was in the first four. We have zero Q1 wins and 2 Q3/4 losses at home.

Our non conference is really bad given we couldn't get that win over St Johns and then have those two bad losses. So 15-5, while it seems great, the total body of work still isn't much to write home about given how bad the ACC is.

13-7 in conference play is not getting us in without a run in the ACCT. 14-6 is iffy and heavily depends on where those wins and losses come from along with a ACCT run.

 

[Cuse'91]

So the comparison is ND last year, another year the league was down and ND, with a stronger non conference than we have had this year went 15-5 and was in the first four. We have zero Q1 wins and 2 Q3/4 losses at home.

Our non conference is really bad given we couldn't get that win over St Johns and then have those two bad losses. So 15-5, while it seems great, the total body of work still isn't much to write home about given how bad the ACC is.

13-7 in conference play is not getting us in without a run in the ACCT. 14-6 is iffy and heavily depends on where those wins and losses come from along with a ACCT run.

Agree somewhat. But, 13 wins that include UNC, Duke, and UVA might be enough. I don't know if we have a single quality, quality win so far this season. We're almost like a 1 bid league regular season champ in terms of resume right now.

 

[djcon57]

That is a BS post. Nobody jumped on the poster. The question was literally “is it crazy…?” People answered.

Not to mention I’m seeing like 4 threads praising certain players.

So this idea that it’s all negative after a win? it’s like Twitter. If you choose to see the negatives, you can find them

 

[Orangezoo]

Agree somewhat. But, 13 wins that include UNC, Duke, and UVA might be enough. I don't know if we have a single quality, quality win so far this season. We're almost like a 1 bid league regular season champ in terms of resume right now.

I still stand with we gotta beat those 3 plus win at VT. Then we can't lose to a rival ACC bubble squad or BC, FSU, GT. Thus to me we need 14 wins plus something in the ACCT depending on what the bubble looks like.

VT may very will sink and thus the away game becomes a Q2 that we can't afford to lose.

The Miami and Pitt losses have given us very very little margin.

14 and 6 with the right games would put us with a Q1 record around 3-4 most likely and something similar in Q2.