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Is Syracuse the New DARK HORSE of the ACC? Orange Football 2023 Season Preview & Predictions

Surprised so many have comprehension issues. Never said Ws in those categories. And if I thought 6 to 8 Ws, isn’t that low if you assumed I was talking Ws and not games?

Shoulds are either Ws or Ls that are IMO in the 85-90% range. It shouldn’t be hard to figure out which is which.

Probables are in the 60-65% range. Again easy to figure out who is who.

Tosses are right around 50-50. In everyone of those I think we are slightly above 50.
 
I think 7 wins is a good minimum for a program that wants to stay relevant.

6 wins is what keeps Dino employed.

And yes, bowl games are kind of stupid now. I'll still watch our game, get overly into it (when I say I wouldn't), but they're more a glimpse of next year.

The biggest downsides of a bowl game would be major injuries that carry into the following year and if a guy like, say, Allen's one game showcase earned him a better offer via transfer.

We dodged both of those bullets in those terrible field conditions at the Pinstripe.
But is it even a glimpse if kids from that game will transfer out and other kids will be transferring in?

And when you can’t even run your system due to not having enough players at certain positions?

I used to think that I would go to every SU Bowl game, and I did for awhile. Not that it was very hard given the lack of games. It’s a very long walk but I could make it from my place to Yankee Stadium. nycfan runs a similar distance during his lunch breaks. But I had zero interest in attending.

I have no desire to go to the actual Bowl games. If it is someplace nice I might go to get out of the city. But that would be the reason, not the game itself.
 
And Texas
Texas is back!! Again!!

Sark is just one of many overrated coaches who can recruit if they fall into a job at a big school but really aren’t good coaches, the talent makes them look good enough to keep mediocre-ing their way up the ladder. I know Sark has battled alcoholism and that had to have affected his performance at UW and USC but I am still way skeptical of him.
 
Surprised so many have comprehension issues. Never said Ws in those categories. And if I thought 6 to 8 Ws, isn’t that low if you assumed I was talking Ws and not games?

Shoulds are either Ws or Ls that are IMO in the 85-90% range. It shouldn’t be hard to figure out which is which.

Probables are in the 60-65% range. Again easy to figure out who is who.

Tosses are right around 50-50. In everyone of those I think we are slightly above 50.
I don't know. If most readers interpret what you wrote the same way, I think it's the writing, not the reading. Most will interpret "should" as should win, not both win and lose, same for "probable." Thanks for clarifying though. It makes more semse now.
 
Is making a Bowl even important anymore?

I would add for me personally. Give me a big national game of the week like last year vs Clemson and that's better than a bowl game in this era. Get us to that point every year and I'll be happy
 
Why is Purdue looked at as a tougher game. They lost the vast majority of their talent in QB Aidan O'Connell, WR Charlie Jones, and TE Payne Durham, a long with a brand new coach. Is there something I'm missing?
We’re not that good either, so a decent B10 team, even if down a bit, is still a tough game.
 
5-7 with some tough losses is different than 5-7 with 5 blow out losses though,

If you're a fan of the program, sure, you can argue it that way. Close losses are demoralizing, but I feel better about the program than I do when we're not competitive.

End of the day, 5-7 is losing, and it's tougher to attract fans and attract talent to a losing program. At least I would think. These days, with money being thrown around and no rules, who knows.

It's why I think closing out that Purdue game was so huge. Without that, we're 5-7 and everything just feels a lot different.
 
Why is Purdue looked at as a tougher game. They lost the vast majority of their talent in QB Aidan O'Connell, WR Charlie Jones, and TE Payne Durham, a long with a brand new coach. Is there something I'm missing?
They aren’t. If it were a noon game, it would be a lot easier. If it weren’t our first road game, it would be a lot easier.

That being said I still think we will win. They have no O and we have the biggest playmakers on the field.

If their coaches stink, we can all go to bed early that night. If their coaches are somehow the next coming, we will lose. If their coaches are halfway decent, we win a 24-20 like game.


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Last year I think they were underrated and better than their record. This year look at their schedule and tell me how they get to 6 Ws? They might be 0-2 coming into our game.
 
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Surprised so many have comprehension issues. Never said Ws in those categories. And if I thought 6 to 8 Ws, isn’t that low if you assumed I was talking Ws and not games?

Shoulds are either Ws or Ls that are IMO in the 85-90% range. It shouldn’t be hard to figure out which is which.

Probables are in the 60-65% range. Again easy to figure out who is who.

Tosses are right around 50-50. In everyone of those I think we are slightly above 50.

lol, so that's what we were to take from your post. ok, ok, so you're saying there is an 85-90% chance we beat FSU? Am I comprehending that right now or are you still being too vague for my small brain to handle? If the former, there is no way we have that high of a percentage chance to beat FSU.

Edit: JeremyCuse explained it for me in simple terms. I am not smart enough to comprehend, I guess. lol
 
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lol, so that's what we were to take from your post. ok, ok, so you're saying there is an 85-90% chance we beat FSU? Am I comprehending that right now or are you still being too vague for my small brain to handle? If the former, there is no way we have that high of a percentage chance to beat FSU.

He's talking about games that are either wins or losses in placing them in the same category. By listing FSU in the "should" column he's saying that's a game we should lose.
 
If we beat Purdue then the Army game gets scarier because we are looking at a potential College Gameday(at the very least a massive game) against Clemson the week after Army, classic trap. If we lose to Purdue I think we will be laser focused against Army. Either way I think we win but they are never easy to beat. As far as WMU, dead on, they are in total rebuild mode and if they are going to be half decent it won’t be in week two.

Agreed, Purdue game is a tough one to get a read on. Everything on paper (for the most part) would favor SU. However, we all know SU's track record against opponents on the road and Babers track record here against P5 teams on the road is pretty abysmal. Really need to find away to win that game as it feels like the kind of game SU has lost way to often even going back to the 90s.

Army switching things up due the rule change with cut blocking is a huge break. Still that game just feels like one that will be way closer then it should be. Babers teams have struggled with discipline mightily and when your playing against an Academy you have to play sound football. The good news is SU maybe able to simply run it down their throats.
 
We’re not that good either, so a decent B10 team, even if down a bit, is still a tough game.
Correction we are a good team, we are not deep in depth. Our nose dive last year directly relates to being decimated by injuries ( mostly on defense).
 
our QB is seasoned and has worked with his primary recievers is a big plus. In addition Beck knows him now and i expect that GS is going to have a great year.
On D we are probably the best at DL and LB as we have been in a very long time.
Talent wise we have a team that can hang. What im excited about is our OC and DC.
I actually think they are going to win a few games for us this year. Teams that are inexperienced at QB regardless of their talent level are going to have a hard time vs Rocky.
I have a very good feeling about this group.
 
our QB is seasoned and has worked with his primary recievers is a big plus. In addition Beck knows him now and i expect that GS is going to have a great year.
On D we are probably the best at DL and LB as we have been in a very long time.
Talent wise we have a team that can hang. What im excited about is our OC and DC.
I actually think they are going to win a few games for us this year. Teams that are inexperienced at QB regardless of their talent level are going to have a hard time vs Rocky.
I have a very good feeling about this group.

Man, I don't know about LBs. Last year's unit was great until the injuries hit.
 
Man, I don't know about LBs. Last year's unit was great until the injuries hit.
I thought they held up pretty well last year considering all the backups were freshmen. Lost Thompson in the first game and McDonald immediately comes in and grabs an interception. Mason, Lowery, and Sparrow all made plays, Bailey had a monster performance in the bowl game. There’s a legit 7-8 guys in that group who can play. I think attrition on the d-line was the bigger problem in the second half of the season.
 
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I thought they held up pretty well last year considering all the backups were freshmen. Lost Thompson in the first game and McDonald immediately comes in and grabs an interception. Mason, Lowery, and Sparrow all made plays, Bailey had a monster performance in the bowl game. There’s a legit 7-8 guys in that group who can play. I think attrition on the d-line was the bigger problem in the second half of the season.

Wax, Thompson, Sparrow, Lowery and Bailey seems like a very good top 5. Bailey looked great in the bowl game. I think Lowery is going to have a monster season, especially with teams being so concerned with Wax and Thompson.
 
Man, I don't know about LBs. Last year's unit was great until the injuries hit.
It was but if Steph is back to full strength i actually think he has a chance to be our best LB in a very long time. The unit has depth and a ton of athleticism. Plus they have an extra year in the system. I like this unit as the second or third best unit on the team.
 
we are a few years into the 3-3-5 and still not running a bunch of the scheme because we have had to play so many young kids with the injuries in the key spots.. good news is so many have been around now that if we can stay healthy we can actually do more things this year hopefully.
 
our QB is seasoned and has worked with his primary recievers is a big plus. In addition Beck knows him now and i expect that GS is going to have a great year.
On D we are probably the best at DL and LB as we have been in a very long time.
Talent wise we have a team that can hang. What im excited about is our OC and DC.
I actually think they are going to win a few games for us this year. Teams that are inexperienced at QB regardless of their talent level are going to have a hard time vs Rocky.
I have a very good feeling about this group.
I expect if we are close to teams at halftime, our defense will get better the 2nd half of each game.
There can't be a lot that Ricky hasn't seen, and I expect him to make necessary adjustments.
Also think Beck will be better then Anae, who seemed set in his ways.
He didn't seem to adjust even when something didn't work.
 

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