Is the proverbial shoe about to drop on college basketball royalty?

[rrlbees]

If I were William Wesley I would be scared bigly. The feds are coming.

The NCAA will be done after this investigation is over. A new organization that is technically the overseeing body will be created and rules might change.

Who would make up this new organization?

 

[OrangeDW]

If you are guilty of paying players then the school should lose scholarships and get a postseason ban.

We lost 10 scholarships for a drug policy, 2 players getting paid no show jobs at the YMCA and Fab having a paper written for him.

Paying players thousands of dollars is way bigger than what SU did.

Yup! No sympathy! Throw the book at all those cheater programs!

 

[Alsacs]

Who would make up this new organization?

All colleges should have a conference find someone creditable like a Condolezza Rice and Dr. Jill Biden just names not them and create a new system.

The schools have time in the summer to get this done. A new form of the NCAA basically.

 

[Consigliere]

Looking at the balance sheet ledger shown in the story the date is December 2015. Got to assume there is more recent documentation included in the investigation as well. And curious why the headings on that document are in Spanish?

The balance sheet is cut off at the O's but going through the report and the players names I count 42 schools associated with players mentioned on the documents. Some are relatively trivial but others have multiple players named.

 

[AZOrange]

Anyone with stake, involvement, or rooting interest in any of this

I like that dog. It’s his eyes

 

[Ryand877]

Looking at the balance sheet ledger shown in the story the date is December 2015. Got to assume there is more recent documentation included in the investigation as well. And curious why the headings on that document are in Spanish?

The balance sheet is cut off at the O's but going through the report and the players names I count 42 schools associated with players mentioned on the documents. Some are relatively trivial but others have multiple players named.

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Thanks for posting. Why would John Gillon and Syracuse be handwritten on the document if it was from 12/2015?

 

[Cusefan0307]

I hope this won’t ruin college B.B., it’s amazing that people are cheering for schools to be hurt. One of the things that makes college B.B. great is great competition.

We are competing in a playing field that isn't level. It's hard for us to compete and even harder when we are on probation and other teams can cheat all they want. It's time to level the playing field a bit.

 

[AZOrange]

Thanks for posting. Why would John Gillon and Syracuse be handwritten on the document if it was from 12/2015?

Andrew miller is a seer.

 

[PhatOrange]

The thing is that football is the sport these kids should get paid to attend colleges for.
As they give those schools 3 years of indentured servitude too and then go pro.
In basketball you go one year and then leave.

The agents are pond scum. North Carolina is one of the few states that have tough laws for agents interacting with college athletes.

can you imagine all the football document shredding that's taken place since this went public?

 

[Consigliere]

I hope this won’t ruin college B.B., it’s amazing that people are cheering for schools to be hurt. One of the things that makes college B.B. great is great competition.

Not really cheering for schools to be hurt. From my perspective it is more indicative of how the sanctions we received relative to our infractions were well beyond appropriate. If the Syracuse case is used as a benchmark any NCAA action associated with this probe will have to be monumental. Louisville has to get the death penalty coming on the heels of strippergate. Texas, Kansas, Kentucky, Duke and UNC have multiple players with 5 figure payments.

 

[Consigliere]

Thanks for posting. Why would John Gillon and Syracuse be handwritten on the document if it was from 12/2015?

There is another Colorado State player on the ledger but the reference to Syracuse means the handwritten note must have been added after May of 2016.

 

[Fly Rodder]

We are competing in a playing field that isn't level. It's hard for us to compete and even harder when we are on probation and other teams can cheat all they want. It's time to level the playing field a bit.

This is why one of the arguments against paying players in the open is so stupid, e.g., the big schools with wealthy boosters will get all the good players. As opposed to now?

 

[AZOrange]

There is another Colorado State player on the ledger but the reference to Syracuse means the handwritten note must have been added after May of 2016.

I will be disappointed if JB doesn’t retire as the all time NCAA leader in MBB wins vacated.

 

[AZOrange]

Who would make up this new organization?

I think this is where people get lost. The NCAA is the monster the schools/conferences created.

 

[OrangeDW]

Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona, Louisville, Michigan State...throw the book at them all!

Cuse, UCLA, Florida, Indiana are the new, cleaner blue bloods!

 

[Alsacs]

People are forgetting this stuff is just from one agent.

CAA, Leon Rose, Landmark Sports, David Falk these agents are next.

The Feds aren’t going to stop at Andy Miller.

The NBAPA should cooperate.

 

[SUGIANT]

Not really cheering for schools to be hurt. From my perspective it is more indicative of how the sanctions we received relative to our infractions were well beyond appropriate. If the Syracuse case is used as a benchmark any NCAA action associated with this probe will have to be monumental. Louisville has to get the death penalty coming on the heels of strippergate. Texas, Kansas, Kentucky, Duke and UNC have multiple players with 5 figure payments.

That’s fine but until I see who is involved I feel it’s best to not gloat, in case that shoe drops here.

 

[phil77]

Hmmmmmm Morris and Whitehead on the list.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I am getting a kick about some writers and media folks talking about how this known and widespread, but none have done anything to publicize it in the past. I get protecting sources and they don't want to be that guy, but they can't know about this stuff, not report on it, but then heap praise K and Calipari and Saban as some kind of wunderkind recruiters who just happen to scoop up the very best players every cycle.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Hmmmmmm Morris and Whitehead on the list.

As well as Tiny Morton who was on the Hall's bench to get Whitehead.

 

[Mattydvc]

People are forgetting this stuff is just from one agent.

CAA, Leon Rose, Landmark Sports, David Falk these agents are next.

The Feds aren’t going to stop at Andy Miller.

The NBAPA should cooperate.

I'd imagine those agents have cleared their computers by now. Wasn't Andy Miller raided?

 

[JKinPhilly]

Much ado about nothing if you ask me. The big programs will skate because the NCAA will say the schools did nothing wrong, they don't own the agents and the agents don't represent the schools.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Mildly concerned Gillon's name is handwritten on the document, but no numbers next to him. Weird.

Likewise, mildy? concerned:
Steven Pina's name appears: Pina has been the agent for many of Syracuse's best players over the past three years including Malachi Richardson, Chris McCullough, Rakeem Christmas and Trevor Cooney. His name had not appeared in the FBI's initial complaint or in previous stories about alleged payments. Pina continues to work for ASM Sports. His name is listed next to a column detailing a "recruiter advance."

 

[Deano]

Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona, Louisville, Michigan State...throw the book at them all!

Cuse, UCLA, Florida, Indiana are the new, cleaner blue bloods!

Thought on that report that Jarred Jeffries name was on there, so IU wasn't clean either. When asked for comment by a certain former IU head coach here was his response -

 

[Fly Rodder]

Also, I wouldn't be slapping backs that SU isn't mentioned in this first release. Thamel and Forde are story tellers, they're dribbling this stuff out for maximum effect. Just when a school declares that this is small potatoes and it's nothing and that player is in a game, out come the next set of leaked documents.