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Is the proverbial shoe about to drop on college basketball royalty?

May be totally jumping the gun here, but any chance this could affect Carter's eligibility for Saturday against us? It says he is one of the current players mentioned in the documents.
"NCAA Bylaw 16.01.1.1 reads "Unless otherwise noted, for violations of Bylaw 16 in which the value is $200 or less, the eligibility of the student-athlete shall not be affected conditioned upon the student-athlete's repayment of the benefit to a charity of his or her choice. The student-athlete however, shall remain ineligible from the time the institution has knowledge of receipt of the impermissible benefit until the student-athlete repays the benefit..."
 
Don't see how the schools are going to get fried from what I can follow. If there isn't a direct tie to the money and the school I think all these schools throw their hands up and say "we didn't do it and how are we supposed to stop it". I think that is probably 50/50 on whether that is true. Some schools don't some if not most schools do cheat. We know it, the media knows it and the NCAA knows it, but if a school creating fake degrees so athletes can stay eligible to play isn't raising the ire of the public, I don't think 3 and 4 figure pay outs will either. What I think is good that the "lesser programs" like Wichita and seton Hall have had the curtain pulled back a little on how they are landing guys.

As someone posted earlier this isn't a bombshell - like steroids in baseball, we all know it's happening and deep down we don't care as long as we win.

If the players were getting benefits there’s nothing the NCAA can do to save the schools. This is just a thread pull.
 
Don't see how the schools are going to get fried from what I can follow. If there isn't a direct tie to the money and the school I think all these schools throw their hands up and say "we didn't do it and how are we supposed to stop it". I think that is probably 50/50 on whether that is true. Some schools don't some if not most schools do cheat. We know it, the media knows it and the NCAA knows it, but if a school creating fake degrees so athletes can stay eligible to play isn't raising the ire of the public, I don't think 3 and 4 figure pay outs will either. What I think is good that the "lesser programs" like Wichita and seton Hall have had the curtain pulled back a little on how they are landing guys.

As someone posted earlier this isn't a bombshell - like steroids in baseball, we all know it's happening and deep down we don't care as long as we win.
Considering that there's been zero fallout from the FBI investigation to Arizona and Miami - Wendall Carter being mentioned as having a $70 dinner with an agent isn't going to move the needle much.
 
Isiah Whitehead threw us under the bus for the Bernie thing. Nice cover.

UNC had a one and done getting cash in their title year.

Does K run Carter out there tomorrow?
 
Considering that there's been zero fallout from the FBI investigation to Arizona and Miami - Wendall Carter being mentioned as having a $70 dinner with an agent isn't going to move the needle much.
Book Richardson no longer coaches at UA and there is a full FBI/NCAA investigation going on...
 
Considering that there's been zero fallout from the FBI investigation to Arizona and Miami - Wendall Carter being mentioned as having a $70 dinner with an agent isn't going to move the needle much.
Does it say that specifically about a dinner, or just talking out loud? Maybe I missed something.
Edit: Syracuse.com article says $106 dollar meal.
 
Isiah Whitehead threw us under the bus for the Bernie thing. Nice cover.

UNC had a one and done getting cash in their title year.

Does K run Carter out there tomorrow?
I would. If he’s ineligible you’ve already played him and will have to give up those games. Might as well win and see how this plays out
 
Isiah Whitehead threw us under the bus for the Bernie thing. Nice cover.

UNC had a one and done getting cash in their title year.

Does K run Carter out there tomorrow?
K has to play Carter because if he didn't he would be admitting some level of culpability. He has to play it straight like Roy. "I had no knowledge anything like this was being perpetrated".
 
If you play a player in that report I think the NCAA should drop even harder sanctions against those schools after the fact.
Ignorance isn’t an excuse according to the NCAA.
They found JB wasn’t involved in our stuff but he was the HC and should have known which is BS.

The NCAA dug it’s own grave on this stuff now.

With the first names leaking those players are done.

JB might become the alltime wins leader when is this all said and done.
 
Article underplays at least one revelation that could be very significant: agents apparently met with Villanova coaches and "lent" money to Kyle Lowry.

Was this while Lowry was in college though? Based on the date of the balance sheet, it seems likely that they loaned money to him while he was already in the NBA but idk
 
If you play a player in that report I think the NCAA should drop even harder sanctions against those schools after the fact.
Ignorance isn’t an excuse according to the NCAA.
They found JB wasn’t involved in our stuff but he was the HC and should have known which is BS.

The NCAA dug it’s own grave on this stuff now.

With the first names leaking those players are done.

JB might become the alltime wins leader when is this all said and done.
Mildly concerned Gillon's name is handwritten on the document, but no numbers next to him. Weird.
 
Mildly concerned Gillon's name is handwritten on the document, but no numbers next to him. Weird.
He would be Colorado State’s problem.

I might be hard on JB but the guy wouldn’t pay kids money to come play for him IMO. He isn’t doing that stuff. He may be tough on them but he won’t pay them.

We are likely going to be a minor blip in this stuff but we aren’t one of the teams going to get hammered IMo.
 
If you play a player in that report I think the NCAA should drop even harder sanctions against those schools after the fact.
Ignorance isn’t an excuse according to the NCAA.
They found JB wasn’t involved in our stuff but he was the HC and should have known which is BS.

The NCAA dug it’s own grave on this stuff now.

With the first names leaking those players are done.

JB might become the alltime wins leader when is this all said and done.


Coach K got angry Calipari was getting all the top recruits and went full on Blue Chips baby. Should've learned from Pete Bell.

Thing is K never needed the top players when he won in 2010. He was winning 30 games Nova style long before Nova became Nova.
 
MILT PALACIO!
KENDALL GRAY!
OMAR CARTER!
FOREIGN GUYS THAT NEVER PLAYED IN THE NCAA!

SPICY!

Seeing these all listed as "loans" and in some cases "bad loans", is there anything wrong with agents actually giving a loan to a kid and the kid paying it back (Kyle Kuzma, DJ Newbill)?
 
He would be Colorado State’s problem.

I might be hard on JB but the guy wouldn’t pay kids money to come play for him IMO. He isn’t doing that stuff. He may be tough on them but he won’t pay them.

We are likely going to be a minor blip in this stuff but we aren’t one of the teams going to get hammered IMo.
Alsacs, sounds like you think Duke should sit Carter tomorrow?
 
I wouldn't count on Wendell Carter being the one to bring down Duke. If he's all the FBI has, Duke is probably going to walk away from this just fine. Carter comes from a pretty well-off family, from my understanding, so it wouldn't be crazy to think he paid for his portion of the meal. It wouldn't be crazy to think he didn't pay, but proving who paid could be tricky if credit cards weren't used.
 
MILT PALACIO!
KENDALL GRAY!
OMAR CARTER!
FOREIGN GUYS THAT NEVER PLAYED IN THE NCAA!

SPICY!

Seeing these all listed as "loans" and in some cases "bad loans", is there anything wrong with agents actually giving a loan to a kid and the kid paying it back (Kyle Kuzma, DJ Newbill)?
Depends on the definition of "loan" and "paying it back". I think when agents are concerned, their definition of "loan" is "we'll hook you up now when your broke" and "pay it back" is "you'll sign with me when you go pro". I think that is what the Marcus Camby and Reggie Bush cases were mostly about.
 
Mildly concerned Gillon's name is handwritten on the document, but no numbers next to him. Weird.
If this program gets a ban again for giving money to Gillon...We should all be officially done. That would blow my mind.
 

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