Is the proverbial shoe about to drop on college basketball royalty?

[pfister1]

My guess is that one of Bruce Pearl's loafers will be the next shoe to drop. I find it hard to believe that the guy who gets caught on film partying with players won't be caught in the wiretap transcripts or in emails directing payments to players? I'm not buying that it was all Chuck Person.

Pearl could be the greatest basketball coach to ever walk on a court and he isn't magically turning Auburn into a top 10 program in three years the honest way.

 

[Bayside44]

The almighty all-knowing Jay Bilas was wrong! Holy crap!

Cannot count on anything anymore...

 

[bevosu]

Quade Green - remember when he announced for Kentucky and that one poster popped up and said no matter where he was going, he was getting a bag? In light of all of this other stuff coming out, it makes me think that a) Green's "Plan A" included he and his peeps making their own sneaker deals for $$$ no matter where he played so long as he'd be featured and b) he would get more out of his deal if he could go to an ultra high profile school like Kentucky and be featured.

I do believe Kentucky was complicit in some way.

When isn't Kentucky complicit?

 

[Cheriehoop]

For me the education piece sailed when UNC broke

The NCAA definitely made an official declaration when they said UNC's fake classes weren't even in their wheelhouse . Their wheelhouse is dependent on who not what.

 

[bpo57]

The NBA doesn’t need to do anything to bail out the NCAA. They have a monster tv deal, the most coveted franchises in all of sports to purchase with ratings soaring.

The NBA will “fix” this when they can make money off the G-League through tv deals and sponsorships that make it lucrative enough for the owners and it doesn’t displace veterans who aren’t giving up roster spots.

NBA’s age limit doesn’t say a kid has to go to college. Kid can do whatever he wants before the nba.

Allowing HS kids direct to the nba means bad organizations will make bad selections because the variance widens in the talent pool and the good organizations will get better. Not sure the NBA wants that.

Generally agree with you but "most coveted franchises in all of sports"? The NFL says hello - money making machine with a hard salary cap whose ratings (even with recent declines) blow the NBA's out of the water.

 

[Sherman20]

And I am a little surprised at how this is being painted with a broad brush. Dennis Scott receiving a $70k “loan” does not equal Wendell Carter’s mother being treated to lunch.

Bilas made that point on Game Day this morning. There are various degrees here of rules violations.

 

[Cheriehoop]

They were after the wire fraud and conspiracy and kept pulling threads. But the implications for college basketball are totally ancillary.

Could there be SEC implications regarding non disclosure in financials etc, could college tax exempt status be questioned, tax implications of all this unreported income etc. Much of the mafia was brought down by tax laws. No way that there won't be serious political fallout and posturing with some state reps trying to protect their own state universities , attack the FBI investigation while others will make cleaning it up a cause. When will someone take on college football , or will it just concentrate on basketball? Odd that no one is saying the obvious about the biggest money maker and financial driver of college sports - football.

 

[Whitey23]

 

[MikeSU02]

Generally agree with you but "most coveted franchises in all of sports"? The NFL says hello - money making machine with a hard salary cap whose ratings (even with recent declines) blow the NBA's out of the water.

2-3 years ago, I would have 100% agreed with you. Even with the NFL sliding and the NBA rising, NFL is still ahead.

However, and I should have said that statement was imo, I contend that the most coveted franchises *are* NBA teams. They are all now worth north of $1Bn and have better growth potential.

Per Forbes:

The average team is worth a record $1.65 billion, 22% more than last year, and every team is worth at least $1 billion for the first time. Franchise values have tripled over the past five years. Credit the league’s economics, in particular its international growth prospects, which are the best of any major U.S. sports league.

It's not outrageous anymore to envision a sports world in which NBA teams are worth more than their NFL counterparts. Investors believe the NBA has far greater potential to grow overseas than the NFL, which has struggled beyond the United States. NBA revenue outside the U.S. is growing at a rate in the high teens annually.

The average NFL franchise is worth $2.5 billion, 52% more than the typical NBA team, but that spread has been more than halved in the past five years. The NBA is already selling at higher multiples: Recent deals for the Brooklyn Nets and Houston Rockets value the teams at roughly eight times their regular-season revenue; NFL franchises are worth closer to six times revenue.

 

[CuseCPT]

time for you to get back to reality. end the athletics gold rush? why on earth would they want to do that? who exactly is getting hurt in all this? The poor "clean" schools? Please. If you play, you are paying somehow, somewhere. I don't get all this outrage. Everyone without their head in the sand KNEW this was going on FOREVER.

Exactly. Providing an education hasn't been the primary purpose in college football or basketball for a long, long time. It's minor league NBA and NFL playing an elaborate charade of amateurism.

 

[reedny]

Exactly. Providing an education hasn't been the primary purpose in college football or basketball for a long, long time. It's minor league NBA and NFL playing an elaborate charade of amateurism.

True,

signed,
PPC

 

[CuseCPT]

2-3 years ago, I would have 100% agreed with you. Even with the NFL sliding and the NBA rising, NFL is still ahead.

However, and I should have said that statement was imo, I contend that the most coveted franchises *are* NBA teams. They are all now worth north of $1Bn and have better growth potential.

Per Forbes:

The average team is worth a record $1.65 billion, 22% more than last year, and every team is worth at least $1 billion for the first time. Franchise values have tripled over the past five years. Credit the league’s economics, in particular its international growth prospects, which are the best of any major U.S. sports league.

It's not outrageous anymore to envision a sports world in which NBA teams are worth more than their NFL counterparts. Investors believe the NBA has far greater potential to grow overseas than the NFL, which has struggled beyond the United States. NBA revenue outside the U.S. is growing at a rate in the high teens annually.

The average NFL franchise is worth $2.5 billion, 52% more than the typical NBA team, but that spread has been more than halved in the past five years. The NBA is already selling at higher multiples: Recent deals for the Brooklyn Nets and Houston Rockets value the teams at roughly eight times their regular-season revenue; NFL franchises are worth closer to six times revenue.

No doubt, basketball is truly becoming a global game. There is no established, more popular similar sport to compete with for it. Football overseas would naturally compete with soccer and rugby, and it just isn't ever going to be able to. Kids can play soccer and rugby with just a ball. When I was in Turkey in 2006, their were courts all over the place in Istanbul and people were always playing. When my Turkish friend came to the US to visit, her friends wanted her to bring them back Miami Heat jerseys.

Basketball also doesn't have the brain injury elephant in the room.

 

[Alsacs]

Sean Miller not coaching tonight.

 

[MSOrange]

Quirk in Sean Miller's contract gets him more from Arizona if he's fired for cause

 

[Ryand877]

Any word on Ayton playing tonight ?

 

[Cheriehoop]

Regarding Duke (my opinion only):

No way Coach K involved. No way. Not because he's a saint but because he has too much to lose. His reputation is worth gold. (And because he doesn't have to cheat to get top recruits.)

The university would not clear Wendel Carter to play unless they were fully satisfied that he (family) did not break rules.
The university takes compliance very sincerely. A cynic might say it's because the squeaky clean reputation is valuable when it comes to alumni donations, which dwarfs the money they get from NCAA basketball tournaments. But regardless, the university is serious about compliance.

That being said, I'm a little worried about Bagley sitting out with a knee strain. The moment this story started to break, the University has been all over its coaches and students, demanding "anything we need to know???" Had they learned of rules breaking by an athlete (and I don't know that they have), this is the way they might have handled it.

Funny you mention Bagley because I was wondering the same thing.

 

[Alsacs]

Bill Walton whom I like as an announcer better not be soft on Miller and defend this crap.
His son is an Arizona alum who didn’t get paid and was friends with Richard Jefferson.
Walton brought his son and Jefferson to the NBA finals in 2001 when he worked for NBC the NCAA made Richard Jefferson reimburse that ticket and suspended him games because it was an extra benefit even though he was friends and roommates with Walton’s son and was treating him like any adult does their children’s friends.

 

[orangenauburn]

Mark Gottfried was mentioned in an email from Dawkins. Currently out of coaching right now. Wonder how that impacts his future employment opportunities

 

[Cheriehoop]

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But you can't afford that luxury if you know other people re working the same story...as is the case here.
You've got to get it out as soon as you can or someone is going to be asking why you were beaten.

Good points, the only issue I have with stories is that the more important question someone should be asking - is are you sure that everything you plan to write is correct, double checked or did you take shortcuts, make assumptions, insert opinions as facts etc to insure you didn't get beaten.

 

[Cusefan0307]

So in the span of one season 2 top ten programs coaches get caught cheating and aren’t coaching now. This suggests there’s more to come.

 

[pearl31]

Mark Gottfried was mentioned in an email from Dawkins. Currently out of coaching right now. Wonder how that impacts his future employment opportunities

lol that dude shouldn't coach again even if he's squeaky clean

 

[Alsacs]

Mark Gottfried was mentioned in an email from Dawkins. Currently out of coaching right now. Wonder how that impacts his future employment opportunities

Dennis Smith Jr. is the Gottfried connection.

 

[bpo57]

2-3 years ago, I would have 100% agreed with you. Even with the NFL sliding and the NBA rising, NFL is still ahead.

However, and I should have said that statement was imo, I contend that the most coveted franchises *are* NBA teams. They are all now worth north of $1Bn and have better growth potential.

Per Forbes:

The average team is worth a record $1.65 billion, 22% more than last year, and every team is worth at least $1 billion for the first time. Franchise values have tripled over the past five years. Credit the league’s economics, in particular its international growth prospects, which are the best of any major U.S. sports league.

It's not outrageous anymore to envision a sports world in which NBA teams are worth more than their NFL counterparts. Investors believe the NBA has far greater potential to grow overseas than the NFL, which has struggled beyond the United States. NBA revenue outside the U.S. is growing at a rate in the high teens annually.

The average NFL franchise is worth $2.5 billion, 52% more than the typical NBA team, but that spread has been more than halved in the past five years. The NBA is already selling at higher multiples: Recent deals for the Brooklyn Nets and Houston Rockets value the teams at roughly eight times their regular-season revenue; NFL franchises are worth closer to six times revenue.

The problem with that Forbes analysis is that it extrapolates the money losing deal that ESPN is choking on with the NBA. No other nets are in any big hurry to assume that deal. Look at the deal the NFL just signed for Thursday night football. NBA is often dependent on stars but in the NFL people root for the laundry. Betting and fantasy also hugely favor the NFL. Gap may have narrowed but it's still miles apart. I'd say some NFL franchises are worth well more than $3 billion and all of them have great value because of revenue sharing.

 

[orangenauburn]

Dennis Smith Jr. is the Gottfried connection.

When you look at his recent career

Bama and NC State, it all fits in so well

 

[KaiserUEO]

Hearing Miller hired the duke athletics and compliance department to investigate and get him cleared in time for tonight’s tilt...