It's in the genes

[pfister1]

Stevie Thompson Jr. with the heroics...

 

[br801]

Pretty impressive to nail that shot while moving away from the basket to his left with a hand in his face...

 

[Cheriehoop]

Nice shot! (Little shuffle of his feet before it ) Congrats to Jr and Sr.

 

[jr4750]

Nice shot! (Little shuffle of his feet before it ) Congrats to Jr and Sr.

Yep big time shot, after a blatant travel

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[pfister1]

Let the "How did we not offer him/let him get away?" threads commence.

 

[dollarbill44]

Good for him and a tough shot. A couple of things, however, after watching the closing sequence about four or five times, (1) the clock didn't start right away on the inbounds pass. I counted about 4 seconds for him to get off the shot; (2) it looks like he traveled with a little stutter step after he picked up the dribble. Nonetheless, a great shot and it counted.

 

[CorduroyG]

How did we let him get away??

 

[HoustonCuse]

He gone.

 

[tbonezone]

well stevie thompson #32 would have leaped at the 3 point line and DUNKED that shot !

 

[OrangeXtreme]

well stevie thompson #32 would have leaped at the 3 point line and DUNKED that shot !

And got fouled...

and bricked the FT. Oh Lord

 

[br801]

Yep big time shot, after a blatant travel

Hey, Cowtown. If you're officiating that game and see the travel, do you call it in that situation?

 

[Cowtown]

Hey, Cowtown. If you're officiating that game and see the travel, do you call it in that situation?

Look at it again, and notice in whose gym the game was played ...

 

[tbonezone]

in the last ten seconds of any game if it ain't intentional and don't draw blood PLAY ON.

 

[Cowtown]

in the last ten seconds of any game if it ain't intentional and don't draw blood PLAY ON.

... three ...

 

[br801]

Look at it again, and notice in whose gym the game was played ...

That was fast. Gotcha.

 

[721Comstock]

Well, if he'd taken off from the 3pt line and DUNKED, I'd agree - in the genes.

Hitting a 3?
Must have gotten that from Mom.

(Nothing but love for Stevie Sr, he's probably my favorite SU player of all time, but he... was not a shooter.)

 

[Cowtown]

That was fast. Gotcha.

It's interesting, you see "lead" make the "count the basket" signal, but you never see "trail" - who handed the ball to the inbounding player - and that's supposed to be his call. He seemingly never gets into the play, and I think (IMHO) that a competent official at that level should have been able to get close enough to that play to see it. I can also say that a cell phone video from 25-30 rows up doesn't show when he gathered the ball (read: put both hands on it). I mean, does it look like a travel? Yes. Can anyone offer conclusive proof he did? No.

 

[Noexcuse]

Well, if he'd taken off from the 3pt line and DUNKED, I'd agree - in the genes.

Hitting a 3?
Must have gotten that from Mom.

(Nothing but love for Stevie Sr, he's probably my favorite SU player of all time, but he... was not a shooter.)

Had the open 3 to tie against Illinois in the '88 NCAA Regional Finals and . . . well you know how that turned out.

 

[NYCorange]

It's interesting, you see "lead" make the "count the basket" signal, but you never see "trail" - who handed the ball to the inbounding player - and that's supposed to be his call. He seemingly never gets into the play, and I think (IMHO) that a competent official at that level should have been able to get close enough to that play to see it. I can also say that a cell phone video from 25-30 rows up doesn't show when he gathered the ball (read: put both hands on it). I mean, does it look like a travel? Yes. Can anyone offer conclusive proof he did? No.

I can't imagine ANY official EVER calling that in that situation. It would be like calling a (slightly) moving screen. It doesn't seriously impact the game and it's not even completely clear.

 

[orangenirvana]

Oregon State has a good chance of going to the Tournament for the first time since 1990. Good for Stevie Jr.

 

[jr4750]

Hey, Cowtown. If you're officiating that game and see the travel, do you call it in that situation?

hell no

 

[Cowtown]

I can't imagine ANY official EVER calling that in that situation. It would be like calling a (slightly) moving screen. It doesn't seriously impact the game and it's not even completely clear.

It's a tough spot, for you'll be criticized by whoever is on the bad end of it. You have to know what the prevailing sentiment in your association is, and try to be consistent. Here's what John Clougherty says about another ref:

"He's certainly done all the right things and his career has taken off," Clougherty said. "The biggest improvement was in game management skills. I always thought he was a good play-caller. But early on, like all officials, it takes a while to get the big picture and know the game is more important than play calling."

That sounded like Clougherty was saying a good referee puts a higher priority on handling the emotions of coaches, players, fans and himself rather than correctly calling, say, a block or a charge.

"That's exactly what I mean," Clougherty said. "The game can be chaotic."​

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/sports/coll...etball-men/article44455017.html#storylink=cpy

Keep in mind Clougherty was the guy who put Rumeal Robinson the line with three seconds remaining in the 1989 NCAA final. Clougherty later became supervisor of officials for the ACC (2005-15). He's not my favorite guy, but he certainly rose much higher than I ever threatened to. I never had enough attitude, and almost everyone I know who did, has a lot. And I don't think I want this job anyway ... :noidea:

 

[Cowtown]

And, if I may digress, the key to understanding why there would be no travel call there, is also the same in understanding why coaches never get T'd for being out of the box. Well, almost never ...

 

[CorduroyG]

Trajan langdon got called for a travel with 5 seconds left down 1 in the '99 championship game. A travel is a travel.