JB on ESPN2 talking Red | Page 8 | Syracusefan.com

JB on ESPN2 talking Red

JB said what what we all think but forget to say. These guys are getting paid big bucks. Its fair to criticize then now as they are professionals.. He said they did not play to expectations. And it was a direct reflection on the team performance on the court.

He defended Autry as he has defended all his players. I give him credit there. He will be forever in your court. Nice to have people like that in your corner. Granted there is some issue with how the program tailed off, no one like to see us struggle to be mediocre.

Ask yourself,
  • was JJ good enough. IMHO ==> Not even close.
  • Was Freeman Good enough ==> This is harder to answer
    • I thought he was the difference to our season early on.
    • Could see he was too inconsistent last 15 games and lack of experience showed
NIL is a different story as I do not know the real deal. But the consensus is that on paper we had the team that should have pushed for the Dance. I think we were rated #56 in pre-season by Jay Bilas. So NIL was probably enough. Coaching inexperience then was also a factor.

In summary I agree that highly compensated players cost Syracuse the Season. i would add that Autry also caused us to miss the NCAA's.

GO CUSE
 
Starling's scoring average suffered because he was asked to do a lot more last year, when we didn't have a true PG. Last season he was on the floor for 35 min/game (vs. 29 this year), and attempted more FGs (12.8 vs 10.9) and FTs. His shooting average actually went up slightly this season (.419 vs .407).

I don't think it is fair to pin this year's woes on Starling's play; there is enough blame to go around.
The only area in which JJ's shooting percentage went up this year was his 3-pt shooting. Here are his shooting stats for the past two seasons:

2024-25 - 2-pt FGs: 131-273 (48.0%); 3-pt FGs: 38-142 (26.8%); Free Throws: 87-127 (68.5%); TS% = 48.7%
2025-26 - 2-pt FGs: 111-239 (46.4%); 3-pt FGs: 24-83 (28.9%); Free Throws: 34-62 (54.8%); TS% = 46.7%

The pro-JJ argument during/after last season was that he had to do more, you're right about that - his Usage Rate was 28.6% last year, and he attempted 31.8% of SU's shot attempts when he was on the floor. With Donnie being injured, and with last year's underwhelming supporting cast, JJ was definitely asked to do a lot - and you could argue his poor shooting numbers were a reflection of doing too much.

But this year his Usage Rate was down... he was at 22.6% (and attempted 25.8% of SU's shots when he was on the floor)... and in general, you want to see an uptick in efficiency/shooting percentages when a player's usage rate goes down. In JJ's case, that did not happen. He was asked to do less, and unfortunately for Red and SU he was much less efficient while filling that smaller role.

For me, the most telling statistic that sums up JJ's year is that he played 30 games - and made a total of just 34 free throws! And it's not like he was launching a lot of 3-pt FGs (which generally get you less FTAs than 2-pt FG attempts), his typical game this year involved a lot of weak forays into the paint for floaters/layup attempts that did not result in opponent fouls or FTAs for JJ. Early in the season, it was discussed on this board that JJ had a mental block of some sort at the free throw line, and I think the 'hitch' in his stroke and multiple air-balled FTAs got in his head and ultimately affected his entire game.

Seemed like a nice young man, but I'm happy his tenure at SU is over. He was a big part of the reason why SU was so bad this year.
 
JB said what what we all think but forget to say. These guys are getting paid big bucks. Its fair to criticize then now as they are professionals.. He said they did not play to expectations. And it was a direct reflection on the team performance on the court.

He defended Autry as he has defended all his players. I give him credit there. He will be forever in your court. Nice to have people like that in your corner. Granted there is some issue with how the program tailed off, no one like to see us struggle to be mediocre.

Ask yourself,
  • was JJ good enough. IMHO ==> Not even close.
  • Was Freeman Good enough ==> This is harder to answer
    • I thought he was the difference to our season early on.
    • Could see he was too inconsistent last 15 games and lack of experience showed
NIL is a different story as I do not know the real deal. But the consensus is that on paper we had the team that should have pushed for the Dance. I think we were rated #56 in pre-season by Jay Bilas. So NIL was probably enough. Coaching inexperience then was also a factor.

In summary I agree that highly compensated players cost Syracuse the Season. i would add that Autry also caused us to miss the NCAA's.

GO CUSE
damn outline format
 
we didn't have $8-$9m of NIL. and jb hasn't been fundraising for NIL.
First of all, you know I mean $8-9 million for the roster including the money provided by the university in the House settlement. When people say NIL, that’s what they mean and are referring to. It’s total money for the roster.

As for JB, he shoud be doing NIL fundraising.
 
Jimmy b was wrong in so far as intimating JJ was one of the two best players on the team. We sat here last year and argued about wanting this guy back and most wanted no part of it. We were right . They were wrong.
 
Those minutes should have gone to Kiyan?


Have you looked at their stat differentials? I think you can make an argument that Kiyan should have been playing more.

Kiyan:
18.7 mins per game
39% from the field
63% from the Free Throw line
8 pts per game
.9 Assists per game
1.0 Turnover per game

J.J.:
29 mins per game
42% from the field
55% from the Free throw line
10.9 pts per game
2.4 assists per game
1.4 TO per game

I think it is fair to say that Kiyan should have got more run, especially when he was hot. When Kiyan was hot he was unstoppable. But many times in those situations Red subbed him out and out J.J. back in who was not playing as well.

Our subbing by Red this year was bizarre to say the least.



Also you are comparing a TRUE FRESHMAN to a SENIOR. The senior's stats should be SIGNIFICANTLY better. But they are slightly better/similar...to a true freshman.
 
Have you looked at their stat differentials? I think you can make an argument that Kiyan should have been playing more.

Kiyan:
18.7 mins per game
39% from the field
63% from the Free Throw line
8 pts per game
.9 Assists per game
1.0 Turnover per game

J.J.:
29 mins per game
42% from the field
55% from the Free throw line
10.9 pts per game
2.4 assists per game
1.4 TO per game

I think it is fair to say that Kiyan should have got more run, especially when he was hot. When Kiyan was hot he was unstoppable. But many times in those situations Red subbed him out and out J.J. back in who was not playing as well.

Our subbing by Red this year was bizarre to say the least.



Also you are comparing a TRUE FRESHMAN to a SENIOR. The senior's stats should be SIGNIFICANTLY better. But they are slightly better/similar...to a true freshman.
You’re ignoring the fact that while JJ’s defense wasn’t good, Kiyan leaked like a sieve.
 
This can't be helpful for bringing future recruits/transfers in. I guess having him around (as whatever his job title was) to help with the transition of Autry to head coach could be rationalized 3 years ago, I can't see what the benefit of having him around with the new AD and coach would be.
He is trying to help raise NIL money and part of this is him telling people publicly they need to step up. Players want to get paid and don't care about the previous years team or what those players were paid if they get paid. The larger problem is people feeling like their money went to waste and Boeheim is trying to make excuses for that to keep raising money. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
 
He is trying to help raise NIL money and part of this is him telling people publicly they need to step up. Players want to get paid and don't care about the previous years team or what those players were paid if they get paid. The larger problem is people feeling like their money went to waste and Boeheim is trying to make excuses for that to keep raising money. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Otto’s Razor - the simplest reason for JAB doing or saying something is always the best.

In this case -
I’ll take “Boeheim Says Things” for $1,000, Alex.

He’s not playing 5D chess.
He’s not even playing tiddlywinks.
He’s just riffing off the cuff.
 
You’re ignoring the fact that while JJ’s defense wasn’t good, Kiyan leaked like a sieve.

Again comparing a true freshman to a senior leader.

Maybe if Kiyan got more minutes earlier in the season the game would have started to slow down for him.

I’m not saying he could have been significantly better this season than J.J. but I think it’s a fair argument to have wanted more time out of Kiyan.
 
Again comparing a true freshman to a senior leader.

Maybe if Kiyan got more minutes earlier in the season the game would have started to slow down for him.

I’m not saying he could have been significantly better this season than J.J. but I think it’s a fair argument to have wanted more time out of Kiyan.
He kind of did get that opportunity when JJ was hurt early in the season.
 
He is trying to help raise NIL money and part of this is him telling people publicly they need to step up. Players want to get paid and don't care about the previous years team or what those players were paid if they get paid. The larger problem is people feeling like their money went to waste and Boeheim is trying to make excuses for that to keep raising money. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
I took it as more of him trying to deflect that he pushed his successor on the program which didn’t work out so he had to blame other people rather than the coach he helped chose.
 
First of all, you know I mean $8-9 million for the roster including the money provided by the university in the House settlement. When people say NIL, that’s what they mean and are referring to. It’s total money for the roster.

As for JB, he shoud be doing NIL fundraising.
One is constant for everyone. The other is flexible for everyone. And I can probably show you hundreds of posts where people referred to NIL alone. Always have. 2.5 last year 5 this year. We doubled it. Been said many many times. Im also not a
Mind reader.
 
But almost everyone refers to the total number as NIL when you see reporting about it online. Hate to break that to you.
Not really but ok.
 
My one concern with JB’s comments is that they could be used against us in recruiting.

“If you go to SU and don’t perform, you’ll get thrown under the bus and be a lead story on ESPN.com.”
 

Forum statistics

Threads
174,825
Messages
5,293,212
Members
6,204
Latest member
gorhodypodc

Online statistics

Members online
342
Guests online
7,167
Total visitors
7,509


Top Bottom