JJ's FT Shooting Form

[whobut03]

Chuck Knoblauch comes to mind on this.

Jimmy Lee couldn't fix JJ's issues.

 

[23Zone]

QB situation by far. At least JJ is attending SU on a basketball scholarship. He's not a soccer player that we repurposed out of desperation.

Outside of scholarship status, evaluate from performance perspective

Two air balled foul shots versus a lacrosse quarterback that at least threw a touchdown last game and no pick 6

 

[Eric15]

Outside of scholarship status, evaluate from performance perspective

Two air balled foul shots versus a lacrosse quarterback that at least threw a touchdown last game and no pick 6

JJ Starling is an exponentially better basketball player than any QB on SU's roster minus Steve Angeli.

 

[23Zone]

JJ Starling is an exponentially better basketball player than any QB on SU's roster minus Steve Angeli.

Talking about foul shooting only lol

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Not in all years of doing this and all the research and experience I’ve had with this does it show it will help. Hard part is you need a fresh start and what I mean by that is a very very long break from it. However, the kid works his butt off everyday in the gym trying to get better and work himself out of it, but that’s not how you can approach this.

Is this like in A Beautiful Mind when Russell Crowe is like "All I have to do is apply my mind" and the old advisor guy is like "There's no theorum, no proof. You can't reason your way out of this?"

 

[Eric15]

Talking about foul shooting only lol

I'll still take JJ.

 

[Briancuse]

Chuck Knoblauch comes to mind on this.

Jimmy Lee couldn't fix JJ's issues.

It has to be. I dont know how any bball player could airball 3 fts in a game.

 

[Toga]

Steve Sax

 

[bigmike]

Crazy thought - not sure if it was mentiined

 

[littlereg]

Honestly his phone shooting is mind boggling. None of his foul shot attempts even look the same. He literally shoots it differently every single time. One of them he pulled all the way to his left side and then flicked it back. I think that's the one he shot far to the right air ball. And the one that he shot straight (also airballed) was so short it was unbelievable. Certainly there is a mental component but you would still think you would shoot the same way every time.

He is basically unplayable the last 8 minutes of a game. I think he should play 20 minutes max a game and none in the last 8 minutes

Then The one he made later in the game looked half normal, albeit a little flat but still relatively normal lol

 

[littlereg]

Just have him imbibe some mushrooms of a magical variety. His spirit journey will bump him over 80% when he comes back to earth.

I'm half-joking.

Let him hang out with Frank Howard before games and he’ll shoot a career HIGH from the line!!!

 

[NineOneSeven]

The odd thing about Starling's first free throw airball (I can't believe I have to specify which of the airballs I'm referring to) is that it wasn't short the way most airballs are, it was like a foot to the right of the basket. That is very unusual. Usually misses are long or short, but at this level (college/NBA) they're very rarely left or right.

Which is why I’ve said what I’ve said about it being the worst FT I’ve ever seen in my life. I was sitting in row A of 114 which is corner baseline looking down the court where he was shooting from, so got a pretty good direct look.

You can watch college basketball for the next 50 years and not match that attempt.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Shoot with the other hand. Channel your inner Bo Kimble

 

[FrancoPizza]

Shoot with the other hand. Channel your inner Bo Kimble

Not the craziest idea. He wouldn't have to unlearn any mechanics.

 

[23Zone]

Then The one he made later in the game looked half normal, albeit a little flat but still relatively normal lol

Exactly.
Reminds me of Forrest Gump and never knowing what you were going to get from a box of chocolates lol

 

[BillSU]

This wasn't all about JJ. 19 -33. JC! It's about taking a free shot. No one's guarding you. The whole dang team couldn't shoot FT's. If I were Autry, I would have shaken hands with the Monmouth coach and then divide up the team and had everyone take 100 FT's. We have to have better FT shooting this year or we're -----!

 

[Nicknack]

I know what you've been saying here - for the last 2 years leading up to this year, if I was within 20 yards of the green, I KNEW my shot was going directly right, off the hosel. Everyone I played with knew as well, and never stood on that side. Then you think about it every time and almost will it into happening. The most frustrating two years of golf in my life. Finally fixed it this year by trying some of the most unorthodox things. I actually moved closer to the ball, forced my stance to be much more upright, as well as the club being much more upright. Not that anyone cares. But it's amazing what the mind can do when you give it too much time.

I experienced something very similar. I tried everything I could think of but the shanks continued. Really frustrating because in all other aspects of my game were pretty decent. The fix was putting a tee just to the right of my ball. I immediately started hitting good shots again because it prevented me from hitting across the ball. The issue was when I didn't put a tee down. Sometimes I would hit a good shot but if I thought about possibly hitting a shank, that's what happened.

This is a long way of saying that yips or whatever you want to call it can be both mechanical/technique and mental. In my example, it was both. It's hard to believe, watching JJ shoot free throws, to say it's all mental.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Ok, JJ’s been pkaying bb for a long time right?
Is there any footage of him in high school shooting jerky free throws? Has he always had it or just at SU?
I have seen him shoot a short range jumper and it looked fine.
Can a player make a free throw anyway he/she wants? Like shooting a jump shot from the line?
Scratching my head.

he had a bad shoulder injury at notre dame his freshman year and played through it

has never been the same since

was an elite shooter in HS thats why he was MCDAA

 

[Ottoman]

This is a tough situation. JJ is a good guy. I think he is a different player after all the injuries. I feel bad for both JJ and Red. I really hope I'm wrong and he catches fire this year.

To add to the drama, JJ also shot one free throw too early. I'm not really sure how that happens from an officiating standpoint - just a wild night from the stripe.

 

[Eric15]

To add to the drama, JJ also shot one free throw too early. I'm not really sure how that happens from an officiating standpoint - just a wild night from the stripe.

That was so bizarre. I was worried the official was going to consider that a missed attempt.

 

[dollarbill44]

Just have him imbibe some mushrooms of a magical variety. His spirit journey will bump him over 80% when he comes back to earth.

I'm half-joking.

He might need something stronger, like Ibogaine.

 

[DomeHolmes]

JJ has always struggled with shooting, so there must be some kind of mechanical flaw.

But seeing those free throws last night... I have to ask the question, is he impaired? Is he dealing with some kind of shoulder [or whatever] injury that hasn't been disclosed, that might account for TWO airballs?

There’s nothing wrong with his shoulder that affects his shot. Most good free throw shooters mostly shoot with their wrist. Bad free throw shooters have too many moving parts with elbows and wrists. You can watch guys in wheelchairs who have good free throw shooting form routinely make foul shots despite being otherwise immobilized. It’s 100% mental.

 

[23Zone]

Starling should petition for the Elam ending lol

 

[sugrad68]

I love Kyle but I can’t remember a college player with worse form. If he shoots higher than 50% on FTs I’ll be very surprised. JJ has shot 70% over the last 2 years which is not horrible but not what you expect from your SG. I remember announcers talking about his shooting hitch last year.

 

[CuseFan]

It's definitely in his head. I love the idea of stepping back, taking two dribbles towards the FT line, and taking a jump shot. No thinking. Just shooting naturally.