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Joe Girard transferring to Clemson

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CU44SE said:
We were 10-11 entering February. We won 4 straight.

25-10 WF
11-21 NC St
13-19 Louisville
13-20 BC

That’s what you base a “serious run” off? We beat 3 really bad teams to move to 13-11. That team wasn’t going to make anything, even without the Jessie injury.
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Apparently you can't discern when a team is playing good. And, putting teams end of season records is misleading. UNC had a real downturn in the middle of that season and got beat bad several times but got it together and made the tourney and the championship game.
 
CousCuse said:
Apparently you can't discern when a team is playing good. And, putting teams end of season records is misleading. UNC had a real downturn in the middle of that season and got beat bad several times but got it together and made the tourney and the championship game.
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2021/2022 and 2022/2023 was easily the worst two year stretch in JB's history. By a mile. Neither team was remotely tournament worthy.
 
bpo57 said:
2021/2022 and 2022/2023 was easily the worst two year stretch in JB's history. By a mile. Neither team was remotely tournament worthy.
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When the 21/22 team lost a player as important to the teams success as Jesse was to that team, it left a huge whole to try to fill. That team had gotten significantly better until the injury to Jesse. I still am unsure of the logic of signing 6 freshman and 1 developmental backup center for the 22/23 team.
 
CousCuse said:
When the 21/22 team lost a player as important to the teams success as Jesse was to that team, it left a huge whole to try to fill. That team had gotten significantly better until the injury to Jesse. I still am unsure of the logic of signing 6 freshman and 1 developmental backup center for the 22/23 team.
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There was no logic. The roster construction was hot garbage.
 
CousCuse said:
When the 21/22 team lost a player as important to the teams success as Jesse was to that team, it left a huge whole to try to fill. That team had gotten significantly better until the injury to Jesse. I still am unsure of the logic of signing 6 freshman and 1 developmental backup center for the 22/23 team.
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I’m assuming that JB found it easier to add these under top 75 HS kids to fill out a roster than use the portal where you’re competing with more schools in a short amount if time
 
CousCuse said:
When the 21/22 team lost a player as important to the teams success as Jesse was to that team, it left a huge whole to try to fill. That team had gotten significantly better until the injury to Jesse. I still am unsure of the logic of signing 6 freshman and 1 developmental backup center for the 22/23 team.
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We were 10-11 entering February with him!!!!!

Nc state lost to us during a 1-12 stretch.

Louisville had just lost there coach and went 3-15 from the beginning of January.

BC was on a 5 game losing streak

They won 4, 6, 6 conference games respectively.

THOSE 3 TEAMS STUNK! We beat BC worse without Jessie than we did with Jessie. Jessie was obviously a big loss. That team was NEVER in a million years making the tournament. We finished with a losing record for crying out loud.

4 of the 10 wins prior to February were against winning teams.

2 of the 10 wins were against 500 teams.

4 of the wins were against teams with losing records.


That is not a tourney resume.
 
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kcsu said:
If Joe can get a degree from Stanford he would be crazy not to go there. He obviously isnt playing in the NBA . Maybe he makes a living off shore but a degree from Stanford will set him up for life after his playing days are over better than any other school on his list
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Working hard and a bit of luck sets people up for life, not degrees from specific universities. Those just help open doors that are otherwise hard to open, and potentially reduces the luck requirement a bit.
 
I hope Joe picks the best school for him. Selfishly I don’t want to play him next season, so I hope he doesn’t pick an ACC school nor an SEC school.

Pick Stanford, Joe. ;)
 
FloridaCuse said:
How do we know that?
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The social media posts about him leaving from the coaches were absolutely glowing.

Joe may not be thrilled, but he didn't burn his bridges.
 
Cuse181 said:
impossible, he isnt good enough to be in the P6
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He's plenty good enough to BE in the P6. However, most of those teams wouldn't use him as a 35 mpg guy, use him out of position as full time point over multiple seasons, or afford an unlimited green light.

In a complimentary role, he could be a solid contributor on a good team. Here, his minutes were in disproportion to his limitations.

And I say that full well acknowledging the two solid back-2-back years he's had. Still would have liked to see him play fewer minutes, in a backcourt rotation with better players.
 
When he was close to making his decision in high school, a lot of the locals wanted him to go to ND or BC. They knew playing the top of the zone didn’t exactly fit him well. I remember one radio host interview him and tell him if he did go to ND he would come to the carrier dome 4 times throughout his career and probably average close to 7 threes made a game against the ‘Cuse zone.
 
RF2044 said:
He's plenty good enough to BE in the P6. However, most of those teams wouldn't use him as a 35 mpg guy, use him out of position as full time point over multiple seasons, or afford an unlimited green light.

In a complimentary role, he could be a solid contributor on a good team. Here, his minutes were in disproportion to his limitations.

And I say that full well acknowledging the two solid back-2-back years he's had. Still would have liked to see him play fewer minutes, in a backcourt rotation with better players.
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I think this is true, as do most posters here... But another team might see a P6 starter filling a hole and more minutes heavy role. I think we should be open to not only that being true - but that he'll continue to be what he has been for us but with different coaching and different team mates.

I doubt it - but it's at least a possibility.
 
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