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On day 1 of the 22 season 41% of the nba players came via the G league
 
Bulldog04 said:
The main gamble with round 2 is also how many unknown European players rights get drafted. The mocks show so many USA guys but that is NEVER the case how it shakes out in round 2. Another point being made as well here for his reason to come back
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Only about 30 G league players get called up each year. Basically 1 per team.
The G league is a very tough grind. Easy to get lost. I personally think given his position, family, and NIL hes crazy to stay in.
 
RF2044 said:
I'm glad that this saga is about to come to an end.

As a Syracuse fan, I want to see Red get off on the right foot. I also want to see the ship get righted, and for the team to move beyond the tangible decline that's plagued the last 9 seasons. And Judah returning seems to be the best way for both of those things to happen.

And if Judah opts to stay in the draft, I'll wish him the best and root for him if he makes the NBA.

But I'm also tired of this situation, which of course has dragged out to the last possible moment. Stay, go -- whatever -- just get it over with so that the team can move forward, either way.
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I felt Dean's recent pod, while not having any new information that isn't already out there was a good listen. I won't get into specifics but genesis of one important point is that if he is still in the middle of the "process" with just that one workout- its hard to imagine that good news /confirmation just hasn't happened. That confidence/belief/heavy interest isn't there from the NBA side of things or else this saga would be over. It's really just reiterating a point made in a different way on the board throughout this saga so otherwise I wouldn't comment on it given where it came from.

Ultimately it's down to would you bet on yourself even if you aren't hearing what you want to hear? That is a damn tough call to make because you don't have a lot of wind in your sails beyond your own.
 
Bulldog04 said:
The main gamble with round 2 is also how many unknown European players rights get drafted. The mocks show so many USA guys but that is NEVER the case how it shakes out in round 2. Another point being made as well here for his reason to come back
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Plus look at Charlotte being his one workout... and them having multiple picks. You see those get traded away all the time.
 
Most front offices are much smarter than they were.

I wouldn’t be so dismissive of mid to late second round picks, especially with the second apron coming soon.

most teams are much better with development.

I think Judahs shot, his strength and his second level decision making can get better at both Cuse and the NBA.

My worry is his wingspan.

It’s easy to say that if he gets drafted by the smartest teams like the Spurs or Heat that he’ll make it.

Charlotte? Yikes.

If I were him and wasn’t sure I could, at worse, land at 44 to the Spurs, I’m coming back.
 
MikeSU02 said:
Most front offices are much smarter than they were.

I wouldn’t be so dismissive of mid to late second round picks, especially with the second apron coming soon.

most teams are much better with development.

I think Judahs shot, his strength and his second level decision making can get better at both Cuse and the NBA.

My worry is his wingspan.

It’s easy to say that if he gets drafted by the smartest teams like the Spurs or Heat that he’ll make it.

Charlotte? Yikes.

If I were him and wasn’t sure I could, at worse, land at 44 to the Spurs, I’m coming back.
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Yeah Charlotte isn't exactly a model team development wise. I thought they also have a pretty deep stable of young guards including basically a very similar type of player to Judah in Bouknight. Judah being more a PG than Bouk but still...
 
Bulldog04 said:
The main gamble with round 2 is also how many unknown European players rights get drafted. The mocks show so many USA guys but that is NEVER the case how it shakes out in round 2. Another point being made as well here for his reason to come back
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Most NBA teams used to stash Euro guys in the 2nd round… now they just all draft their 2-way guys in the mid to late 2nd round (I think theyre going to increase it from 2 2-way spots to 3 2-way spots soon?)
 
Orangezoo said:
Yeah Charlotte isn't exactly a model team development wise. I thought they also have a pretty deep stable of young guards including basically a very similar type of player to Judah in Bouknight. Judah being more a PG than Bouk but still...
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Yes, my adopted Hornets here in Charlotte have been a clusterfkc for years. They do have a nice stable as you say led by LaMelo Ball. And Bouknight, who's a much better player than Judah, has yet to see significant time.
I can't blame Judah if he pulls the trigger, but only if he's prepared to go the GL and likely journeyman route.
 
There are times when we obsess because a kid‘s decision is likely to be critical to the teams success. I believe we already have enough at guard, so that even if Judah does not return, I do not see that decision taking us from “successful” to “unsuccessful.” That is, of course, not to say that we will not be better with Judah, of course, he would be a plus.

I think the team has bigger issues:

1. Will Red be as good a coach as we are anticipating ?

2. Will we get any kind of halfway effective o from the 5 spot ?

3. Will Benny be consistent enough ?

4. Will somebody take hold of the other forward spot ?

5. will we have enough 3 point shooting ?

imho, some, maybe all, of the above questions may have a bigger impact on the success of the season than will Judah’s decision.
 
DoctorBombay said:
I can't blame Judah if he pulls the trigger, but only if he's prepared to go the GL and likely journeyman route.
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That's been the fate of most of the Orange NBA picks over the past 10-15 years.
Perhaps staying another season in college may have helped develop their minds, bodies and skills to achieve greater staying power.
Maybe not.
But it doesn't seem it could hurt today with the prospect of decent NIL money for another college season.
 
Orangezoo said:
I felt Dean's recent pod, while not having any new information that isn't already out there was a good listen. I won't get into specifics but genesis of one important point is that if he is still in the middle of the "process" with just that one workout- its hard to imagine that good news /confirmation just hasn't happened. That confidence/belief/heavy interest isn't there from the NBA side of things or else this saga would be over. It's really just reiterating a point made in a different way on the board throughout this saga so otherwise I wouldn't comment on it given where it came from.

Ultimately it's down to would you bet on yourself even if you aren't hearing what you want to hear? That is a damn tough call to make because you don't have a lot of wind in your sails beyond your own.
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Coming back to school for a year is also Judah betting on himself. I commented on this way earlier in this thread.

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hoopsupstate said:
My least concern is at guard. We have zero consistent production from anyone on our frontline. Benny, Bell and and the big guy have proven nothing at this point. That is where our season will be determined.
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Uh... Starling isn't that much more proven than our forwards.

Our entire squad is pretty unproven, without Judah.
 
DoctorBombay said:
Yes, my adopted Hornets here in Charlotte have been a clusterfkc for years. They do have a nice stable as you say led by LaMelo Ball. And Bouknight, who's a much better player than Judah, has yet to see significant time.
I can't blame Judah if he pulls the trigger, but only if he's prepared to go the GL and likely journeyman route.
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Long gone are the days of Muggsy ( was my favorite player growing up), Zo, Larry, Dell and company. I know they became the Pels.. but still.
 
hoopsupstate said:
My least concern is at guard. We have zero consistent production from anyone on our frontline. Benny, Bell and and the big guy have proven nothing at this point. That is where our season will be determined.
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We are going to be a guard dominant team. Can our stable of guards with help from Benny and Bell/Taylor produce the lions share of points needed to win... and can the bigs defend, rebound and finish strong? . To me thats more the reality. I don't think it's a specific number or shooting percentage for a specific guy outside of the forwards making their open 3s. At guard it's really about what the group does as a whole more than anything. Talent is there..
 
Don’t disagree. But I would expect Maliq Brown to progress nicely year to year as we have him and he gets to continue to play at this level. Natural feel for the game/positioning/positional versatility as a defender. Having watched the Celtics a lot over the last few years, he is the consummate glue player who you don’t have to play through but is capable.

I’d be shocked if he regresses, and nearly equally surprised if he stands Pat.
 
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