Just Flush it

[AAM62]

Sheesh, the week is almost done. Yes, we all know the Rutgers game sucked but the season is far from over and this is a down year for the ACC. Let’s ride this thing out and see what happens.

 

[David321]

Sheesh, the week is almost done. Yes, we all know the Rutgers game sucked but the season is far from over and this is a down year for the ACC. Let’s ride this thing out and see what happens.

Agreed. We should easily go 2-2 OOC maybe even 3-1 OOC. Because our conference is looking weak we may be able to get 2-3 ACC wins. 5-7 shouldn’t be impossible by any means, and that would be a good place to start.

 

[AAM62]

Agreed. We should easily go 2-2 OOC maybe even 3-1 OOC. Because our conference is looking weak we may be able to get 2-3 ACC wins. 5-7 shouldn’t be impossible by any means, and that would be a good place to start.

6-6 is very possible. If the offense stalls out the entire time and is reminiscent of last year, then Dino deserves to be canned. That’s it. Non stop complaining about the same things won’t do you any good.

 

[qdawgg]

6-6 is very possible based on what? We scored 7 points against Rutgers. As bad as some of our upcoming opponents are none of them are worse than Rutgers. We can maybe a find a win or two in ACC play but I don’t get where the 6-6 is “very possible”?

 

[Cuse12]

6-6 is very possible based on what? We scored 7 points against Rutgers. As bad as some of our upcoming opponents are none of them are worse than Rutgers. We can maybe a find a win or two in ACC play but I don’t get where the 6-6 is “very possible”?

Agreed. Only way would be if we change QBs and somehow the lights turn on.

 

[RF2044]

Agreed. Only way would be if we change QBs and somehow the lights turn on.

Agreed.

So make the change.

 

[OburgOrange]

Two games
Zero TD passes
Zero TE throws

 

[Geode]

Sheesh, the week is almost done. Yes, we all know the Rutgers game sucked but the season is far from over and this is a down year for the ACC. Let’s ride this thing out and see what happens.

Good on you. Yes, our collective incessant moaning and groaning isn’t going to solve any problems with the team. We know the players are playing hard. Time to support the boys and the rest of the chips will fall where they may.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

6-6 is very possible based on what? We scored 7 points against Rutgers. As bad as some of our upcoming opponents are none of them are worse than Rutgers. We can maybe a find a win or two in ACC play but I don’t get where the 6-6 is “very possible”?

There are teams with worse Ds that we will do better on O against. There are teams with much worse STs that won't have us starting in a hole. If our D plays well the Ws are possibly there. That being said I think 4-8 is what we are looking at.

 

[JeffCuse]

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[EnviroSciGuy]

Even if we get to 6-6 somehow, we should still move on. The RU game displayed a breadth and depth of head coaching incompetence that would make Terry Shea blush. Unless some really stark improvements are demonstrated, we've seen enough to know what is necessary.

 

[chugg21]

Love the lets not complain people. Sure, let's not express our displeasure with the current situation so it allows for ADJW to justify keeping HCDB around another year to save a ton of buyout money. So if we win 4 games this year and he is retained, can we complain next year then?

 

[AAM62]

6-6 is very possible based on what? We scored 7 points against Rutgers. As bad as some of our upcoming opponents are none of them are worse than Rutgers. We can maybe a find a win or two in ACC play but I don’t get where the 6-6 is “very possible”?

It’s possible based on the notion that maybe, just maybe, teams get better over a year? I know, such a crazy notion.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I don’t see us improving unless we go back to the offensive system that works. With Tommy, I don’t see that happening. We need a change at QB and we need to return to some tempo. I’d rather anyone out there calling plays vs Gilbert. Let them call them at the line. Can’t be any worse.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Love the lets not complain people. Sure, let's not express our displeasure with the current situation so it allows for ADJW to justify keeping HCDB around another year to save a ton of buyout money. So if we win 4 games this year and he is retained, can we complain next year then?

I think people here can complain all they want, posters here are all a percentage of what is left of the diehards and I think most here realize the program as it stands right now has severe limitations regardless of who coaches the team moving forward. Dino is definitely on the hot seat but I think we should actually have a bad year this year before we call for his head. they aren't going to fire him like USC did nor would I want him fired like that. Just have to ride it out. I think 5-6 wins and he's safe, less than that comes down to finances, IMO. Just what I am thinking. 6 years is plenty of time I would agree with that

If and when they do move on...I want the next coach to have an understanding of what it takes to be successful at Syracuse, like I said previously either a prior stop here or strong ties to the Northeast. I don't think any of the new head coaches the past 16 years truly understood that. even Marrone was a bit shell shocked that fans didn't completely come back after the first bowl game

 

[dollarbill44]

Love the lets not complain people. Sure, let's not express our displeasure with the current situation so it allows for ADJW to justify keeping HCDB around another year to save a ton of buyout money. So if we win 4 games this year and he is retained, can we complain next year then?

I took the OP not as a "we shouldn't complain" idea, but as an "it's time to move forward" post. We should all be able to agree that at some point we need to stop complaining about the Rutgers game.

 

[AAM62]

I took the OP not as a "we shouldn't complain" idea, but as an "it's time to move forward" post. We should all be able to agree that at some point we need to stop complaining about the Rutgers game.

Exactly. In a second post I did say non-stop complain does no one good. I get complaining on a board but it’s like doomsday on here.

 

[chugg21]

I took the OP not as a "we shouldn't complain" idea, but as an "it's time to move forward" post. We should all be able to agree that at some point we need to stop complaining about the Rutgers game.

I don't think it's complaining about the Rutgers game as much as it's complaining about having a single win against another P5 school in something like 21 months. You take the lack of winning and add in that Dino's offense is supposed to be fast and fun but is instead slow and terrible and it's just a combination of misery. As much as we are all excited about the D, I think a high majority of people would be more enthused if we lost on Saturday 38-35 rather than scoring 7 pts and looking embarrassing on offense.

 

[upperdeck]

its not dooms day until we get to mid october.. We could win the next 4 because none of these teams is really very good even if we arent either.

we could be playing an 2-5 wake or a 5-0 wake
we could be playing an 0-4 FSU

Until we see how the Liberty game goes all is not lost

 

[Nahson]

Even if we get to 6-6 somehow, we should still move on. The RU game displayed a breadth and depth of head coaching incompetence that would make Terry Shea blush. Unless some really stark improvements are demonstrated, we've seen enough to know what is necessary.

I disagree. I would like to see a Dino led team without TD. That's when I would really have my mind made up.

 

[qdawgg]

Agreed. Only way would be if we change QBs and somehow the lights turn on.

I don’t disagree with that, who knows what impact maybe getting some momentum could have. I just don’t see that momentum occurring based on what we’ve seen and since the 10 win season

 

[qdawgg]

There are teams with worse Ds that we will do better on O against. There are teams with much worse STs that won't have us starting in a hole. If our D plays well the Ws are possibly there. That being said I think 4-8 is what we are looking at.

I think expecting us to “best” other teams that may have poor D’s is a little pie in the sky. I just think 6-6 based on present conditions is so far out of reach even though that sounds ridiculous. You look at how poor our offense has been run overall not just this year. What’s the change that occurs where we start putting up 30+ points. It feels a lot like the end of the Shafer time, where there was zero expectations for the offense. It was a dogfight to just get first downs. Since DB has been here 3rd down conversions have been a struggle. Now it’s magnified by being poor in so many other areas too.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I think expecting us to “best” other teams that may have poor D’s is a little pie in the sky. I just think 6-6 based on present conditions is so far out of reach even though that sounds ridiculous. You look at how poor our offense has been run overall not just this year. What’s the change that occurs where we start putting up 30+ points. It feels a lot like the end of the Shafer time, where there was zero expectations for the offense. It was a dogfight to just get first downs. Since DB has been here 3rd down conversions have been a struggle. Now it’s magnified by being poor in so many other areas too.

It took awhile but after the 2nd bye week in 2019 the O started to look functional. Last year between Covid and Tommy getting hurt we never had a chance. Hopefully they get things to click this week.

 

[SUATO92]

Exactly. In a second post I did say non-stop complain does no one good. I get complaining on a board but it’s like doomsday on here.

Unfortunately the next step after the complaining could be checking out on the program completely. The complaining shows that they still have a passion for the team. I'd rather see that than apathy.

 

[Pyle]

Sheesh, the week is almost done. Yes, we all know the Rutgers game sucked but the season is far from over and this is a down year for the ACC. Let’s ride this thing out and see what happens.

We are playing a SUNY school this week. Nobody give's two craps about this game. I'd be focused on Sat if we were playing anyone other than an FCS opponent this week. It's as bad as a bye for fans, the sting of last Sat will resonate beyond a W this Sat. That's why I think people are still complaining. I'll be done when we can start worrying about Liberty next week(can't believe I just said that).