Just my opinion...

[BostonOrange]

This does not mean i am anticuse, anti american, or anti any individual. It is just my opinion based on my yrs of watching basketball... We would be soooo better off if Scoop was gone. I am not saying he sucks. Not at all. In fact i admire him. The improvement he has shown over the years is something to be admired. But...he is limited. And he will eat 30+ min. Give me bt, dion, and the frosh. Yes, you give up the certainty of scoop, but i would trade that for the upside in a second.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

I don't want Scoop gone, but I have this feeling that if something were to happen where he'd miss an extended amount of time, the team wouldn't be that much worse off with MCW.

 

[SWC75]

He led the Big East in assists last year.

 

[orangefan13]

Scoop was good enough to be the 5th guy in the offensive rotation and eventually the 4th guy against not so good defenses by the end of the year in 09-10.

Last year he was good enough to be the 4th guy and the 4th against good defenses again.

This year I think he will show he is good enough to be the forth option and will Finally move into that third offensive option. Whether or not he is the third, second, or maybe even first against good defenders is the Big question and his challenge.

I can understand the thought on his ceiling being lower then the others. Dion, MCW, Triche and Cooney are super athletes. Scoop is a pg who id smaller, and not so fast. Everyone wants a PG who can penetrate at will. There isn't a team in the country that doesn't.
Its sort of like saying Brandon didn't put up enough points to be a great SG last year.

But even then the last few years Scoop has jacked upper arms, is about as good a finisher in the lane with his layups as any guard in the country, can hit some Big late game shots, and can abuse some guards and spark runs sometimes.

I can understand the overall thought we have so many great athletes and our deepest bench ever.
Don't worry MCW is going to get minutes this year I think.

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

This does not mean i am anticuse, anti american, or anti any individual. It is just my opinion based on my yrs of watching basketball... We would be soooo better off if Scoop was gone. I am not saying he sucks. Not at all. In fact i admire him. The improvement he has shown over the years is something to be admired. But...he is limited. And he will eat 30+ min. Give me bt, dion, and the frosh. Yes, you give up the certainty of scoop, but i would trade that for the upside in a second.

I would say I agree with this. Just a personal opinion, but I wish he had never left his role as spark plug. I always felt that was his best role, because we could call on him to make plays when we needed it, but limited his minutes/mistakes. Don't get me wrong, he has really saved us at times last year... I just feel that in a good deal of those games, his own play also led to the reason the offense couldn't get rolling and why we needed to be saved in the first place.

 

[fanfanclubclub]

losing the old scoop would definitely addition by subtraction. hopefully we lost the old scoop and are adding a new scoop.

 

[osullfam]

wow, what a bunch of knuckelheads. Scoop is on every list of the top college guards in America.
Watch the tape of any game last year when Scoop was on the bench. The offense was frozen in place.
In addition to being a terrific basketball player, he has matured into a fine young man.

 

[arbitragegls]

...okay the right perspective is probably in the middle of all the responses on one side and osullfam on the other...Scoop has the capability to be a positive point guard...#1 in assists in BE games...he also has confidence in his shot (not so sure this is good); and at times he has brain farts...like throwing the ball away in crucial situations...but more importantly, he has a habit of dribbling and waiting to much of the clock before passing the ball...especially to Triche...so Triche has no time to pass or find a good shooting spot so up it goes..and clank...

We havent seen Scoop play one game yet this year...let's wait and see how he handles the court, his basketball IQ, his ability to get others, especially Triche, in the play without the clock running out...if he does this...he will be a team leader, have a bunch of assists and all of us will be pro Scoop...

 

[SoBristol]

Part of a pre-season ritual -- knock Scoop.
Last year, pre-season pundits were convinced the team had no leadership; Scoop couldn't lead; Rick couldn't lead. Didn't hear from those folks so much when the team reeled off 18 wins in a row.

Now, Scoop has his occasional bad moments -- when he tries to do too much, or makes a dumb play. It happens (Marquette game). But he is ranked with the top college guards because -- for the vast majority of the time -- he is the one who makes the plays, leads the league in assists, and is our leader on the court.

MCW might evolve into a better PG (as a junior); Triche is OK if he has Andy Rautins and Wes Johnson by his side to make plays and move the ball but this team is much better with Triche in his current off-guard role.

I suppose this debate will continue until this team makes a deep run in the NCAAs.

 

[Cuseology]

I disagree that the right position is between the "bash Scoop" and "love Scoop" sides. Those who say we are better off with him gone, on the bench, or with signif fewer minutes are both forgetting last year and continuing the annual ritual of building up unproven freshman into stars before they play a single game.

I have trouble remembering many moments when the Dion/BT backcourt was better than Scoop with either of them. If you dont think they would have made their own mistakes, or worse, done nothing with the ball and leave the team stagnant on offense, you are forgetting last year.

MCW may be great but it wiuld be a huge surprise if he was so good out of the gate or even at the end of the year to replace Scoop.

We are top 5 this year. We are playing for a potential BE Championship and a NC. We ride Scoop all the way. He will make 10 times more positive plays, and provide critical leadership to the others, that I will take the mistakes. Kid is a player with stones. I still think we need one of those out on the floor for this team.

 

[jordoo]

More good Scoop and less bad Scoop will make all SU fans very happy this year. I was more frustrated with Scoop at times last season than any other player. The reason being that we saw him play very very well as a PG for long stretches and then we saw disaster strike in key moments. Over all looking back its hard to deny that for his first season as a starting PG he was pretty dang good. I believe he will be better with his decision making this year and will get more help from the other players.

 

[Dcuse]

This does not mean i am anticuse, anti american, or anti any individual. It is just my opinion based on my yrs of watching basketball... We would be soooo better off if Scoop was gone. I am not saying he sucks. Not at all. In fact i admire him. The improvement he has shown over the years is something to be admired. But...he is limited. And he will eat 30+ min. Give me bt, dion, and the frosh. Yes, you give up the certainty of scoop, but i would trade that for the upside in a second.

Sadly, this is an opinion that is shared by more than one and will always tag Scoop as underappreciated in my mind. The only guy on the team with the courage to say give it to me in crunch time last year who would gladly have given it to somebody else if they had the same bravado.
I'm disappointed in our fans who don't recognize this.

 

[stuckinbig11]

Come on, give the kid a break. He works on his game and gets better every year. We all know what he needs to do better this year; if he accomplishes it, he will be tremendous.

 

[cuseincincy]

The only guy on the team with the courage to say give it to me in crunch time last year who would gladly have given it to somebody else if they had the same bravado.

Very True. Hopefully that will change this year. Not that I don't want Scoop to have the same courage, but I'd like to see someone else develop some also. I think Dion, KJo and MCW are the most likely candidates imo. My hope for Scoop this year is that when he starts to go bad he sees more pine since we have more options. 80%+ of the time Scoop is a positive on the floor and often was our best player last year.

 

[NKR1978]

This does not mean i am anticuse, anti american, or anti any individual. It is just my opinion based on my yrs of watching basketball... We would be soooo better off if Scoop was gone. I am not saying he sucks. Not at all. In fact i admire him. The improvement he has shown over the years is something to be admired. But...he is limited. And he will eat 30+ min. Give me bt, dion, and the frosh. Yes, you give up the certainty of scoop, but i would trade that for the upside in a second.

I want to see what he does up to the Florida game, but I'm going to be cautiously optimistic that Scoop has matured after a summer of international ball. I also need to see MCW and Cooney in a game before I proclaim them better for the team's success than a 5th year senior.

 

[SaintTristan]

This does not mean i am anticuse, anti american, or anti any individual. It is just my opinion based on my yrs of watching basketball... We would be soooo better off if Scoop was gone. I am not saying he sucks. Not at all. In fact i admire him. The improvement he has shown over the years is something to be admired. But...he is limited. And he will eat 30+ min. Give me bt, dion, and the frosh. Yes, you give up the certainty of scoop, but i would trade that for the upside in a second.

I would never call a post or a poster stupid, but this is begging for some sort of adjective. Scoop was one of the best guards in the BE last yr. His assists # were the near the top and he had one of the best TO/A ratios we have seen in a long time. On top of that he was better than triche in almost every category (and probs dion too). between our starting guards, scoop was the one who could shoot the three, make the pass or create for himself. Triche really cant do any of those things very well. and you knock scoop? man, defense is very important and i know triche is a slightly above average defender, but if one of our guards needs to be switched out its BT and its not remotely close.

Neither scoop nor BT were very good PGs last yr, but at least scoop has the skill set and when he wasnt acting silly could get the job done. this team needs a PG and maybe one of the frosh can step up. and if they do, BT needs to find a seat far down the bench.

the kid is being honored all over the country left and right. this board needs to get over itself with the favoritism crap.

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Also, some here are conveniently overlooking the fact that while he led the Big East in assists, he was third in turnovers and didn't shoot the ball particularly well.

I'm willing to wait and see, but my inclination is that a freshman MCW instead of a fifth-year senior Scoop wouldn't be that much of a downgrade.

 

[SBU72]

While BT, Dion and MCW "may" have a higher ceiling than Scoop, his current level of play is still above theirs. Until their level exceeds his, there should be no talk of wanting Scoop gone. None of the 3 have proven they would be better as individuals or as a guard combo. When they do and do it consitently, then the discussion can be re-visited.

 

[Bayside44]

He led the Big East in assists last year.

Dumping the ball into Rick Jackson on the blocks over and over doesn't make him Magic Johnson.

 

[StopCoolio]

So JB and Hop, who watch every practice, and are as familiar with all of the guards respective games as anyone on the planet, are starting Scoop, why? If Scoop is such a detriment, why didn’t they tell him to take his degree and leave in the offseason? Would’ve been perfectly acceptable. I’m pretty sure they asked him to stay because he gives us our best chance of winning.

I know everyone’s an expert because MCW and Waiters looked good in the 10 minute Midnight Madness And-1 Mix tape tour-esque scrimmage, but please, our staff knows what they’re doing. They want to win too. Scoop has to give us the best chance in their estimation.

 

[SaintTristan]

Dumping the ball into Rick Jackson on the blocks over and over doesn't make him Magic Johnson.

that silly. you can make the same argument about just about every great PG.

He is the only starting guard on the team who had any ability to create for himself or others.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

that silly. you can make the same argument about just about every great PG.

He is the only starting guard on the team who had any ability to create for himself or others.

He is a guy that does a lot of good things but is tremendously flawed at the same time., hus decision making down the stretch is very questionable. That said, we stil have no true PG on this team unless MCW is that guy, I do not know but I do agree we are better off with Scoop, although I still mainatain that he isn't a true PG

 

[SWC75]

that silly. you can make the same argument about just about every great PG.

He is the only starting guard on the team who had any ability to create for himself or others.

I guess John Stockton was over-rated because of Karl Malone.

 

[Bayside44]

that silly. you can make the same argument about just about every great PG.

He is the only starting guard on the team who had any ability to create for himself or others.

Last year, yes, I agree he was the only guy. That wasn't the point of the post.

 

[Bayside44]

I guess John Stockton was over-rated because of Karl Malone.

You're going to use John Stockton in a discussion about Scoop? Really?