Kadary Richmond in the transfer portal

[jgeorge322]

Not sure how true this is, but apparently Kadary was done regardless. 1.1 GPA and he never met with his tutor, next fall would have been ineligible unless he did summer school..? Just something I heard don’t take my word for it not sure if it’s true or not but it’s making its rounds it seems

I remember people weren’t sure if he could qualify out of HS, so does have some legs

if thats true then hes not going anywhere, but i doubt its true. Actually, youd have to be an idiot to believe that.

 

[TheCusian]

Syracuse isn't Harvard.

Ivy League, no. Taking academics for top athletes more serious than FSU/Kentucky - yeah

 

[315emoney]

Syracuse isn't Harvard.

Dude could have said screw it I don’t want to do summer school in Syracuse NY rather do it in Tallahassee

 

[PhatOrange]

Syracuse isn't Harvard.

agreed but I also believe there is an NCAA mandate on gpa eligibility. I think it's 2.0. He'll have the opportunity to take 4 basket weaving classes this summer though.

 

[TheCusian]

I’d also be surprised if the staff let that slide

would this affect playing time

 

[jgeorge322]

You cant make yourself eligible by transferring schools. Get some common sense people.

 

[315emoney]

you have to be a special type of idiot to have a 1.1 GPA at Syracuse. Having seen the tutor operations that surround the hoops program that's just an example of laziness and care less atitude.

I hope this is incorrect and not accurate.

I’m not saying I believe it just putting it out there

 

[PhatOrange]

Dude could have said screw it I don’t want to do summer school in Syracuse NY rather do it in Tallahassee

yeah that and where he can also go to a party without being suspended and kicked out of school

 

[MikeSU02]

Ivy League, no. Taking academics for top athletes more serious than FSU/Kentucky - yeah

Uh, who had the more recent academic scandal that led to sanctions?

 

[Orangezoo]

wouldnt surprise me...

If that is the case I am not sure how he could have been eligible to play in the second semester.

 

[Scooch]

Ahh - see that now. I apologize

I see way more people upset that he's leaving than trashing him. I think he had room for improvement and JB was trying to get him there

FWIW, I'm not angry or upset that he's leaving, just disappointed. I don't like losing guys who can meaningfully contribute to the program, and I don't think anyone can argue that he wouldn't have been a very important piece of next year's team.

I do get a little peeved at the "we're not losing Jordan" garbage. No kidding.

And I'm concerned about how we'll backfill the PG spot. We simply can't go into next season expecting Girard to play 35+ minutes at the 1. I like Joe, but that's just not the role he should be filling.

 

[elimunelson]

I’m not saying I believe it just putting it out there

I don't dispute you heard it. I'm just hoping it's not true (for Kadary's sake). otherwise, i wouldn't trust a word he's saying since he didn't hold up his end of the bargain.

 

[OrangeDW]

Kadary shot way less overall and way more uncontested (because people played off him)
Kadary's release is slow
Joe shot better in practice, is known as a shooter and gets guarded as such

I'd rather Kadary drive than Joe, because he's better at it
Joe can't finish in the lane

JB wants guys to do what they do best, stay in their lane. This is typical of coaching

So Kadary has better shot selection, can score in more ways, and was the more effective offensive player.

 

[315emoney]

It’s far fetched but at the same time it’s not... I remember people weren’t sure he could qualify out of HS, dasher said he just didn’t enjoy his time up here and maybe he said screw school I’m leaving this place anyway in a couple months.. never know

 

[Cuseball]

yeah that and where he can also go to a party without being suspended and kicked out of school

getting in trouble for partying and a below 2.0GPA sounds like my freshmen year at Cuse.

 

[supp]

Perhaps K doesn't want to go after the kid that his buddy JB just watched walk out the door?

Perhaps Gonzaga has a 5-star PG recruit coming in, a top 5 PG in his class. They might also have Andrew Nembhard.

Perhaps Kentucky has a top 5 PG recruit coming in.

But hey, your ridiculous narrative makes the most sense.

The whole discussion is stupid. This is a kid who by any measure was going to help us next year. That's all that matters.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Not sure how true this is, but apparently Kadary was done regardless. 1.1 GPA and he never met with his tutor, next fall would have been ineligible unless he did summer school..? Just something I heard don’t take my word for it not sure if it’s true or not but it’s making its rounds it seems

I remember people weren’t sure if he could qualify out of HS, so does have some legs

Not directed at you 315e, but you gotta marvel at the narratives that start to pop up to try & explain this away.
Selfish jerk? Check
Failing out? Check
Not good enough? Check
Head case? Check
How about, the kid no longer trusted the head coach being on the up-&-up, and decided to start fresh elsewhere? A case of too little, too late- coupled w/ personality clashes. Double standards breed doubt. That’s what likely happened here.

 

[Trueblue25]

Syracuse and Kadary are a bad fit

is what Kadary believes.

Like previously mentioned, not about PT.

 

[orangedave]

To me, this is one of the biggest flaws in JB's "100% Zone" philosophy. It's hard to roll out a 3-guard lineup, because one of those guards has to be pretty good at defending inside and rebounding on the back line of the zone. JB only tried the Kadary/Joe/Buddy lineup a couple of times this year, and when he did a lot of folks on the board were pretty critical of it... not that JB listens, though...

Does any coach listen to fan critics (pro or con) on message boards?

 

[shandeezy7]

you have to be a special type of idiot to have a 1.1 GPA at Syracuse. Having seen the tutor operations that surround the hoops program that's just an example of laziness and care less atitude.

I hope this is incorrect and not accurate.

I would assume it is definitely inaccurate. A direct quote from someone who would know: "Men's basketball does very well in the classroom."

 

[Toga]

So Kadary has better shot selection, can score in more ways, and was the more effective offensive player.

Yeah but Coach says Buddy and Joe were our best defensive pairing.

 

[Finwad32]

Not directed at you e315, but you gotta marvel at the narratives that start to pop up to try & explain this away.
Selfish jerk? Check
Failing out? Check
Not good enough? Check
Head case? Check
How about, the kid no longer trusted the head coach being on the up-&-up, and decided to start fresh elsewhere? A case of too little, too late- coupled w/ personality clashes. Double standards breed doubt. That’s what likely happened here.

Not trying to flame, just in reading through the thread, the narrative provided is about as confirmable as the rest.

 

[Cuseball]

Not directed at you e315, but you gotta marvel at the narratives that start to pop up to try & explain this away.
Selfish jerk? Check
Failing out? Check
Not good enough? Check
Head case? Check
How about, the kid no longer trusted the head coach being on the up-&-up, and decided to start fresh elsewhere? A case of too little, too late- coupled w/ personality clashes. Double standards breed doubt. That’s what likely happened here.

yes but there are other narratives:

Jimmy sabotaging his team because he likes Joe better

jimmy telling Kadary that he won't start next year

I agree with some of your last point. Personality clash and not the right fit for everyone and time to move on

 

[OrangeXtreme]

you have to be a special type of idiot to have a 1.1 GPA at Syracuse. Having seen the tutor operations that surround the hoops program that's just an example of laziness and care less atitude.

I hope this is incorrect and not accurate.

Nobody flunks out after their Freshman year.

Even Fab made it to Spring Semester of his Soph year before his GPA caught up with him.

 

[supp]

yes but there are other narratives:

Jimmy sabotaging his team because he likes Joe better

jimmy telling Kadary that he won't start next year

I agree with some of your last point. Personality clash and not the right fit for everyone and time to move on

However you want to spin it, the buck stops with the head man. Call it a personality clash if you like. He recruited the kid. If he deserves the praise, he also deserves the scorn.