LeQuint Allen is Back

[Orangezoo]

It’s pretty bad when you have multiple NFL Orange alums criticizing the decision on social media.

It's all of us now. For those that haven't already I highly encourage everyone email the chancellor with their thoughts/concerns. Can't let this get stale where they can wait it out...

 

[jgeorge322]

He receives no compensation from the university for his services. He receives tuition and cost of living benefits that he pays no taxes on. There are previously settled cases that student athletes are not university employees and therefore are not offered the same protections as employees. Sure, that continues to be challenged in courts, but as it stands, he’s not an employee, and like I said before, no court would consider him one.

Ninth Circuit Court Rules Student Athletes Are Not Employees: Dawson v. National Collegiate Athletic Association

A federal district court in California has weighed in on the question of whether student-athletes are employees for the purposes of minimum wage and overtime laws. And, like the courts before it, it has rejected that notion.

www.natlawreview.com

Seventh Circuit Agrees: Student-Athletes Are Not Employees Under the FLSA | Insights | Holland & Knight

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit affirmed that University of Pennsylvania student-athletes were not school employees under the Fair Labor Standards Act.

www.hklaw.com

We’re in the Second Circuit boss.

Free tuition isn’t compensation?

 

[gmoney44]

Except he’s not an employee…

What’s the pitch? “Come to Rutgers where if you punch a dude you’re good” ?

The pitch is if you get cracked in the grape twice you can defend yourself.

 

[OrangeDW]

Maybe we should all take a step back with these sorts of statements and chill out on potentially ruining more students' lives.
We don't know who the student was, their background, why they decided the way they did. I doubt any of us here agree with the punishment or the process. But, for all we know, it could be a young, black female who lost a family member in a fight and has zero tolerance for fighting and feels she might be saving Lequint's life by discouraging him from fighting in the future.
The problem lies in the system. No individual student should have that much unchecked power over another student's future. There needs to be a higher degree of oversight. Maybe, there should be a student panel that hears the case and passes a recommendation to the Dean of Students and the appeal goes to a panel of faculty members, including at least one from the law school.
It isn't that student's fault that they were given too much authority or lacks the breadth of experience to fairly adjudicate a case like this.

Yeah….obviously I’d love to know all the facts here.

I’m seeing lots of things said here over and over, but not sure how they know these things?

The fact that so many ex-players and coaches wives are speaking up makes it seem like he got a bad deal. From all we know it seems like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

The lack of transparency is a problem.

I truly don’t understand the student court. What is the purpose of that?

This whole thing sucks, and can’t help but wonder if we’re missing something here because this doesn’t seem to make sense.

 

[UpstateSM]

 

[Orangezoo]

Yeah….obviously I’d love to know all the facts here.

I’m seeing lots of things said here over and over, but not sure how they know these things?

The fact that so many ex-players and coaches wives are speaking up makes it seem like he got a bad deal. From all we know it seems like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

The lack of transparency is a problem.

I truly don’t understand the student court. What is the purpose of that?

This whole thing sucks, and can’t help but wonder if we’re missing something here because this doesn’t seem to make sense.

When you even have the DA speaking out... I don't think we are actually missing something here. It was my big question as the news dropped but everything keeps stacking on the side of this being absurd the longer it drags out.

There are too many people closer to this situation stepping up to challenge this at this point for this to be a one sided story.

 

[OrangeDW]

When you even have the DA speaking out... I don't think we are actually missing something here. It was my big question as the news dropped but everything keeps stacking on the side of this being absurd the longer it drags out.

There are too many people closer to this situation stepping up to challenge this at this point for this to be a one sided story.

Yeah, it seems too absurd to be true at this point which is why I can’t help but wonder if we’re missing something.

If not(and it certainly seems this way), I mean….what are they doing here? Why?

 

[BKCuse]

Honestly how many D1 players you think last year got in a fight? Probably 100+.

Bet it’s closer to 1,000 if you include fights between teammates. (Not counting practice field)

 

[BKCuse]

Syracuse University judicial affairs student board, when I was there, was staffed by academic overachievers who are terrified to appear soft on fellow students o they over-reach every time.

I had personal experience with it. My roommate was drinking in our dorm room my soph year. I wasn't in the room and hadnt been for hours. I think i had like 5 beers all of soph year (junior year was another story). But he was on my side because that is where our collective TV was (remember split doubles?). RA comes to the room. He says its mine. I come back to the room 8 hours later. Next thing you know, we are BOTH on probation for a year because that stupid student board just did what they do

It's a terrible terrible system

DellPlain split doubles were the best

 

[anomander]

So Sheriah Dixon was only in her role for 3 months when the incident occurred. Was she trying to make a statement or just not qualified for the position? i’ll go with the latter

 

[Moontan]

So Sheriah Dixon was only in her role for 3 months when the incident occurred. Was she trying to make a statement or just not qualified for the position? i’ll go with the latter

Meet the New Dean of Students

 

[Irt4su]

NIL opportunity with Everlast?

 

[SmilinBob]

If we've been told the whole story SU makes the NCAA look competent.

I feel dirty and I'm off to take a long shower after that statement.

 

[Finwad32]

I’m not sure why he didn’t transfer. Who wants to hear all that noise? If that’s how they want to handle it as a University, and our AD doesn’t have the pull to get it reviewed/addressed at higher levels than the 19 year old who made the decision, then it is what it is.

If I’m Dino I’m laughably livid. If I’m the position coach, I’m quitting lol.

When rightfully defending yourself anywhere becomes a punishment, I’d start looking into other alternatives.

 

[SUforme]

Meet the New Dean of Students

She sure sounds like she's helping...

"What are you most looking forward to in your role as dean of students?
I am looking forward to getting to know our students and their families on a more personal level. College can be hard and being a parent or support person can be hard. In those times, I want them to know we are here to support them every step of the way the best way we can. We are also here to support them in achieving their goals and celebrating their successes".

 

[SmilinBob]

I’m not sure why he didn’t transfer. Who wants to hear all that noise? If that’s how they want to handle it as a University, and our AD doesn’t have the pull to get it reviewed/addressed at higher levels than the 19 year old who made the decision, then it is what it is.

If I’m Dino I’m laughably livid. If I’m the position coach, I’m quitting lol.

When rightfully defending yourself anywhere becomes a punishment, I’d start looking into other alternatives.

I agree and wonder if he thought the punishment would have never ever been this harsh?

As for SU. I'll wear the color orange but sure as heck am not going to wear anything that says SU or Syracuse University or Orange, even if they send it to me for free.

 

[SUforme]

Wow here is more what goes on:

Syracuse punishes student for asking man at party if he’s a Canadian sex offender

She’d heard rumors that the guy at the party had a history of problematic behavior toward women. So Syracuse University freshman Samantha Jones went right up to him and asked: Was he a registered sex offender?

www.thefire.org

 

[crales44]

From today's article it seems the act that the University is in truth punishing Allen for is that he showed up at the party and didn't call the police.

That's a hell of a consequence for that decision.

 

[MSOrange]

Inside the punch and punishment that put LeQuint Allen’s Syracuse season in jeopardy

Court documents reviewed by syracuse.com show a more complete picture of the incident and process that resulted in Allen’s suspension.

www.syracuse.com

 

[hoopsupstate]

Great article in the PS today. Lots of detail. It makes the University look bad. Allen is the only person in this case that makes any sense. This is an embarrassment for the University. If they don’t come to a settlement before the court date, they are out of their minds. I’m starting to wonder if this incident had anything to do with Chestnut going into the portal. For any student to be treated this way is just plain wrong.

 

[orangeman410]

Email to: chancellor@ syr.edu

Subject line: #FREELEQUINT

Voice your concerns. Already sent mine

 

[MSOrange]

 

[SmilinBob]

I'm worried pride and ego will override common sense if push comes to shove and this gets upheld.

 

[Toga]

Inside the punch and punishment that put LeQuint Allen’s Syracuse season in jeopardy

Court documents reviewed by syracuse.com show a more complete picture of the incident and process that resulted in Allen’s suspension.

www.syracuse.com

JFC

 

[oldpinepoint]

I’m even more outraged these people must be stupid