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Major Announcement coming out of L'ville: 2013 Title Vacated

So who won the 2013 NCAA Championship? The runner up, and if so, can they now put up a banner? Is there no winner that year?
 
What about all the poor kids in third world countries who received a "Michigan Wolverines 2013 NCAA Championship" t-shirt? Do they now need to exchange them for "Louisville Cardinals 2013 NCAA Championship" t-shirts, or do they just hand in their shirts and get nothing?
 
SoBeCuse said:
My buddy just sent this to me. His dad (old timer) is a pretty big donor. Ha.

From: Cmoffice,Service Account [mailto:cmoffice@louisville.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:08 PM
To: Cmoffice,Service Account <cmoffice@exchange.louisville.edu>
Subject: Message from Dr. Postel re: NCAA decision


Dear UofL Family,

Today the NCAA Infractions Appeals Committee upheld earlier penalties imposed on the University of Louisville, including vacation of victories from 2011 to 2015. That includes the 2013 national championship and the 2012 Final Four appearance.

I cannot say this strongly enough: We believe the NCAA is simply wrong.

We disagree with the NCAA ruling for reasons we clearly stated in our appeal. And we made a strong case – based on NCAA precedent – that supported our argument.

From Day One, the university has admitted that the actions of the former operations director and any others involved under previous leadership were offensive and inexcusable. That is why we apologized immediately, cooperated fully with the NCAA, self-imposed penalties that were appropriate to the offenses and made significant changes to ensure incidents like this never happen again. Under the NCAA’s own rules, this cooperation should have been a factor in the severity of the punishment. Instead, it was ignored.

Like you, I believe the university needed to appeal the decision as strongly as possible. We brought in some of the best legal minds in the country, including the nation’s top litigator, who helped develop and argue our case. This effort was costly both financially and in the time commitment. We felt, and still feel, that the young men who earned those victories and the thousands of fans who supported them deserved our best effort. The pain caused for our fans and the players who were not involved is perhaps the most regretful result of this decision.

This dark cloud has hung over our heads for more than two years, and it has had a negative impact on our athletics program, our fans and the entire university family. While we disagree with the NCAA’s decision, it is time for the university to close this chapter and move forward with a stronger commitment to excellence on and off the court.

First and foremost, we are a university. However painful, this situation gives us the opportunity to turn the corner. We will move forward in an open, transparent and collaborative way. We will need your help to do so.

The NCAA’s ruling cannot change the accomplishments or the excitement generated by our Cardinals basketball team. It cannot change the feeling many of us shared as we experienced the victories those teams earned. And it cannot change the love so many of us have for this great university.

I hope you will join me in continuing to remember those teams and their contributions. And I hope you will join me as the university looks to brighter days in athletics and as an academic institution.

Greg Postel, M.D.

Interim President
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Man this is embarrassing.

That a University president feels compelled to send this letter is probably exhibit A in the case against college sports.
 
Vacating wins and titles is just stupid.

Maybe let's work on putting preventative measures in place and put more into education of the student athletes, programs and police them as we go instead of taking away years after. Like our wins being vacated, I don't take this punishment seriously.
 
orangenirvana said:
I laugh when the NCAA doles out punishment. It would be like Tony Soprano issuing fines to waste management companies for improper disposal methods.

When does the NCAA get their infractions?
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The NCAA has no soul. They are check cashers. I’m actually impressed about how much they don’t give 2 sh !ts what any of us think. That would kill me. I sort of admire them for it.
 
bballbeadle said:
What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If I am furious about our vacating 109 wins then I am also furious at the Lville punishment. And I AM FURIOUS! How dare the NCAA deny the fact - the REALITY - that the Ville’s 2013 team was excellent and they won the Championship! It happened. You can’t Men in Black it, for the love of all things holy! So, give them harsh sanctions, reduce scholarships, fine them (apparently there is confusion about this but they did get scholarship reductions). Yes, NCAA, punish them in that even-handed way of yours, but don’t act as if you have the moral authority to say that a team did not win games!!!!

(Ooooh, I’m a little riled up.)
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Amen. Well said!
 
Having lived here for many years, I am NOT happy about this. Sure, they deserve punishment for stripper-gate, no doubt. But c'mon a vacated NC 1st time ever for that, denial of FF the year before, etc.? The NCAA is so asinine and inconsistent, almost as if it is vendetta-based (they love UNC).

I used to be a Pitino fan, but geez not any more. What a shame the dark dark cloud he and others imposed over the school and basketball program. It's become a laughing stock. I have kids with excellent degrees from there, doesn't make them happy either.

I 'll still root for UofL no matter what, of course unless they are playing Cuse.
 
So if the wins were vacated, does that mean the losses are vacated from other programs/coaches records?
 
SUintheVille said:
Having lived here for many years, I am NOT happy about this. Sure, they deserve punishment for stripper-gate, no doubt. But c'mon a vacated NC 1st time ever for that, denial of FF the year before, etc.? The NCAA is so asinine and inconsistent, almost as if it is vendetta-based (they love UNC).

I used to be a Pitino fan, but geez not any more. What a shame the dark dark cloud he and others imposed over the school and basketball program. It's become a laughing stock. I have kids with excellent degrees from there, doesn't make them happy either.

I 'll still root for UofL no matter what, of course unless they are playing Cuse.
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Just because the NCAA is arbitrary doesn't mean Lville didn't deserve every bit of this (and more).
 
Crazy thought, but hear me out. Punishment for recruiting improprieties should take the form of recruiting penalties. Loss of 20 scholly over a 6 year period sounds about right for starters. SU had no recruiting violations and they really hammered us with 13.

But I guess fairness is not in the NCAA's wheelhouse.
 

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