Marquettes blueprint of attack

[albanycuse]

you guys think other teams will take the approach of making it borderline football game plays to try to take us down? i mean they ALMOST were successful. and we have no brusiers on this team to intimidate like a onuaku or etan.

 

[Orangezoo]

not really, because we missed shots and got sloppy which was only in part to marquettes approach.. what i think we will see all year is teams pushing the ball right away after a missed shot. i think we need to be ready to switch to mtm quickly in this intance to stop the ball. marquette lucked out by the way of the whistle a lot yesterday. we need to be better at the dribble kick out in those such games to make teams work harder. yesterday was a lot like an ncaa game.

 

[orangecuse]

I don't know about blueprint, as you have to have the players and incorporated style to do it. Perennial teams like Pitt, L'ville, etc. no doubt will continue this/their tactic...just look at their success against us in recent years...

 

[shermstheman]

Teams have studied how we play. We're playing BE teams now with better personnel. Teams with good coaches and staffs. Each will be aiming at the Cuse to take 'em down. PC did a great job with their game plan. Marquette did likewise. It's done thing to be Tulane and try and play us but quite another with a BE team that's seen the zone, knows us well and has excellent talent. We're in for quite a few close, nail-biting games as teams with talent and gameplans and experience against put a target on our back.

 

[LennX6]

you guys think other teams will take the approach of making it borderline football game plays to try to take us down? i mean they ALMOST were successful. and we have no brusiers on this team to intimidate like a onuaku or etan.

I remember one of their guys getting carried off the court after attacking Melo's elbow with his face.

 

[007]

you guys think other teams will take the approach of making it borderline football game plays to try to take us down? i mean they ALMOST were successful. and we have no brusiers on this team to intimidate like a onuaku or etan.

Not really.

The blueprint we should be worried about is the success that Marq. had driving against the zone in the 2nd half.

 

[BostonOrange]

you guys think other teams will take the approach of making it borderline football game plays to try to take us down? i mean they ALMOST were successful. and we have no brusiers on this team to intimidate like a onuaku or etan.

That's what I'd do. Scoop, Triche, and KJ have, at times in their careers, struggled to play through that type of physicality. Fair also struggles to finish against strength and play through pushes. Dion, on the other hand...

 

[RF2044]

One thing I DO expect to see teams make a concerted effort to accomplish is getting Fab into early foul trouble, to take him out of the game. We're a completely different team on the boards and defensively, with what he brings to the table as a shotblocker. And without Fab, what little post up game we have on offense disappears.

 

[Ghost]

That's what I'd do. Scoop, Triche, and KJ have, at times in their careers, struggled to play through that type of physicality. Fair also struggles to finish against strength and play through pushes. Dion, on the other hand...

I don't know if teams that don't play that style, let's say a Rutgers, can just come out and start grabbing, bumping, and adopt some over-aggressive style w/out it probably backfiring on them via foul trouble, and maybe disrupting their flow.

Marquette has those ridiculous moving screens, like Pitt, where they set the pick and then roll off and try to take the defender with them. It's sort of like a pick and roll against the zone where the screener has no intention of getting the ball back - he just tries to take the defender with him by turning into him. I could see more teams doing that nonsense to help open up the drives into the lane.

 

[orangefan13]

Providence had a nice gameplan in the first half against us. And Virginia Tech and Stanford also shot pretty well againt us. They exposed us around the free throw line would like to see us start to make teams useless from the middle of the lane.

 

[grepal]

In the second half Marquette did something that I thought was brilliant. When a little guy grove the middle and Fab stepped up to take yet another charge they would send a big guy to hip check Fab a little further thn he wanted to go and Fab fouled the driver. I was going nusts, but I have to tip my cap, The refs never called a foul on the hip checker, onlly on Fab.

 

[orangefan13]

you caught those illegal boxout hipcheck screens to

 

[SoBeCuse]

Not really.

The blueprint we should be worried about is the success that Marq. had driving against the zone in the 2nd half.

Absolutely. IMO, that was the biggest issue that hurt us yesterday. That Cadougan and others were getting into the paint easily blowing by Scoop and Triche. Scoop was a disaster defensively yesterday.

 

[SoBeCuse]

In the second half Marquette did something that I thought was brilliant. When a little guy grove the middle and Fab stepped up to take yet another charge they would send a big guy to hip check Fab a little further thn he wanted to go and Fab fouled the driver. I was going nusts, but I have to tip my cap, The refs never called a foul on the hip checker, onlly on Fab.

Marquette got Christmas on one of those too.

 

[RF2044]

Absolutely. IMO, that was the biggest issue that hurt us yesterday. That Cadougan and others were getting into the paint easily blowing by Scoop and Triche. Scoop was a disaster defensively yesterday.

There was one play where DOJ got a defensive rebound and pushed the ball upcourt, literally lowering his head while still on our end of the court as he took it all the way for a layup. No doubt--he made up his mind that he was taking it all the way to the rim as soon as he started up court.

Being able to attack the rim indiscriminantly wouldn't have happened if Fab hadn't been in such foul trouble.

 

[baggerbob]

I hope they try it Keita was at most 75% yesterday and when they came back still able to get the putback and make 2 free throws. This team took marquette's best shot along with Higgins in the house the worst ref in history and still won. Fab in first half gave marquette player forearm and called for foul. Gardner in 2nd half in tussle with Keita under marquette basket higgins standing there, used two hands to push Keita out of bounds and get rebound for putback no foul.