My question for tonight's Jim Boeheim Show

[Alsacs]

JB, in my opinion, no doubt is aware of the chatter and overall general sentiment/flavor in the community, fan base, etc. relative to SU sports, especially his hoops program. It's not a coincidence at all that he cited all of those statistics during his show last night either. He came prepared to spin the arguments/questioning many here have been saying for some time. He also is quite masterful at deflection, i.e. the "people in the media who have never played a game of basketball, never mind coached thousands," etc. remarks he has made in the past, or along those lines. Interestingly, he seemingly isn't aware of the irony (or simply doesn't care at this stage of his life/career) relative to his deflection prowess in relation to another individual whom recently was removed from his grand perch.

With social media and the like, is it just a matter of time before Kadary tweets, or puts something up on Instagram, etc. refuting JB's repeated remarks about Richmond's conditioning, or lack thereof?

What gets me is what he says can easily be debunked.
So why say it.

I mean nobody would complain if we played a short rotation and were a top 10 team. Depth is important but if you got players like Villanova has then play 6.

He thinks our starting lineup is really good. When their are legitimate pieces on the bench.

I don’t think our guards are as good as he thinks they are.
I think they are just solid players but nothing more than that.

 

[CuseMan4]

There is also now a -0.0000001% Kadary starts this season as long as JG3 and Buddy are healthy. JB gonna JB and he’s not gonna say he was wrong or give the “fans” an opportunity to say they are right. He’s deep into the fight that JG3 and Buddy should be starting and playing all these minutes over Kadary. 0% chance he changes that up now after what he’s said. Pretty pathetic because if any other coach in the ACC was given the backcourt of Kadary, Buddy and JG3. I think we know who gets the most minutes of the 3 and it’s the dude JB gives the least minutes too. And that’s the god honest truth

 

[sufandu]

R u a local of Syracuse or Central NY ? I shared a story on here JB kids obviously went to local High School Jamesville DeWitt all athletes there was a big deal a few years ago on a vote for a new field turf for the athletic complex. Jb was in favor of it when some in the community including high school coaches at JD were opposed. Jb showed up to a school board meeting vote on it and spoke in favor a got it to pass. A family friend who's kid was also an athlete at JD at the time was at the meeting and when Jb came in a spoke people feel made the difference just his stature and standing. Just a small example I'm sure others have other similar stories big and small of his pull and power. He has earned it so not trying to take it away from him.

Yes, I grew up in CNY. What does your story have to do with what he can do to a person on this message board that disagrees with him? There is nothing he can do to someone expressing an opinion about sports. Even if he could, I believe he has too much integrity to do anything.

 

[City of Cuse]

If KR really can only go 20, put him in for 20. Leaves 30 each for the "big 2".

Without the games from when buddy was out, he's more around the 16.5 range.

 

[rrlbees]

Anyone ever wonder why Kadary is sometimes riding a stationary bike when not in the game?

 

[City of Cuse]

Anyone ever wonder why Kadary is sometimes riding a stationary bike when not in the game?

Peloton class?

 

[OrangeinDC]

Makes for a hell of a call in show though. JB had Matt shook at one point, he kept asking him if he knew who lead the league in 3pt defense and he wouldn't answer. Finally says quietly I know your up there and JB goes, "WERE #1. I couldn't hold back my laughter.

Yeah... but what's our record?

Anyone ever wonder why Kadary is sometimes riding a stationary bike when not in the game?

My take has been that he's just trying to loosen up or stay loosened up so he doesn't go in the game cold. I guess it could be for stamina too.

But if it was just for stamina, he should still be good to go lol, as much as he rides that thing!

 

[Alsacs]

Yeah... but what's our record?

My take has been that he's just trying to loosen up or stay loosened up so he doesn't go in the game cold. I guess it could be for stamina too.

But if it was just for stamina, he should still be good to go lol, as much as he rides that thing!

I think if Kadary was playing 28 MPG and people were saying play him 36+ the stamina argument would make sense.

JB is playing it like 20 MPG is a lot for the third guard when the third guard is probably our best guard on the team.

That is where his stamina argument goes out the window. He isn’t even playing 20 MPG when we have the full team.

Buddy doesn’t get tired and he plays 16 MPG more which is basically all the minutes Kadary gets in a game.
It’s just mind boggling.
If Kadary can’t play 25-28 minutes per game by now something is definitely wrong.

Then he says stuff like shooting 29% from 3 is like shooting 44% from 2.
When 44% from 2 is not good.

That ignores the fact Woody Newton and Robert Braswell have just gone away and if Kadary can go only play 20 minutes then play AG at SG some and put Braswell in.

 

[cusediehard]

I don't buy the stamina argument on Kadary. I did recently hear on good authority from a reliable anonymous source close to the team that several teammates consider him the team's best player and athlete but he also has a reputation (along with Woody) of being lazy. While other guys will put in extra hours of work, he typically shows up just in time for practice. As a fan, this doesn't bother me. I want Kadary to play 30+ minutes every game as our primary PG.

Mods, if this comment seems sensitive or inappropriate, feel free to remove it. I really don't want to be banned on this forum as I need it to cope with our decline from an elite program to a consistent bubble team.

 

[721Comstock]

Peloton class?

Those Peloton instructors are pretty hawt.

 

[721Comstock]

I don't buy the stamina argument on Kadary. I did recently hear on good authority from a reliable anonymous source close to the team that several teammates consider him the team's best player and athlete but he also has a reputation (along with Woody) of being lazy. While other guys will put in extra hours of work, he typically shows up just in time for practice. As a fan, this doesn't bother me. I want Kadary to play 30+ minutes every game as our primary PG.

Mods, if this comment seems sensitive or inappropriate, feel free to remove it. I really don't want to be banned on this forum as I need it to cope with our decline from an elite program to a consistent bubble team.

Yeah, I had heard rumblings about that (and also Woody) from HS.
Mostly about effort and intensity on D, but also about not necessarily being "high motor" types.

I mean - I get it, coaches love to reward "hard work" & "putting in the extra hours", but -

you should still play the best players, not the best practicers.

 

[orangemass]

Peloton class?

Getting savage with it!

 

[SWC75]

Could JB be using the Kadary conditioning as a means too keep Buddy but more specifically Joe G in the starting lineup and maintain their minutes. Jb is smart he knows the media and fan game in this town. Btw we should probably be careful what we write on this board and others and what we call up local radio on cause JB said has hinted at past pressers he knows what gets said on message boards and he listens to the local radio shows. He has called into Axe show a couple times when something has been said he doesn't agree with or like.

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[Ghost]

Good work team... Kadary's going to play 27 seconds tomorrow.

His issue is he's wasting energy with transition defense - he needs to watch Buddy.

Put your head down, kinda half-run, and drift aimlessly between three point lines - conserve energy

 

[SWC75]

Or...what?

Is JB going to ban individual posters/callers from games? Call them out by name on his call-in show? Leave flaming bags of dog poop on their doorsteps?

Our moderators will protect us.

 

[SWC75]

Yeah, I had heard rumblings about that (and also Woody) from HS.
Mostly about effort and intensity on D, but also about not necessarily being "high motor" types.

I mean - I get it, coaches love to reward "hard work" & "putting in the extra hours", but -

you should still play the best players, not the best practicers.

Has anyone seen Cusediehard and 721 Comstock in the same place at the same time?

 

[SWC75]

I think the Kadary conditioning statement was ill-advised to say the least, especially since he played 30+ minutes when Buddy was out. The issue isn't really Kadary vs. Buddy since Kadary can't play the 2: he doesn't shoot well enough. It's Kadary vs. Joe at the point. And what determines Kadary's minutes is whether the other team plays a zone or man for man. Kadary, at least at this point, is a much superior player vs.. a man for man than he is vs. zone. I still think that if you have three guards and two are specialists, the combo guy, (Girard) should be the back-up and get his his minutes spelling both positions.

The real issue is Buddy vs. Alan Griffin if Bourama comes back. Griffin played guard at Illinois, can hit from long range and can do more things than Buddy. JB's stated reason for not using Griffin at guard is that the 2 guard position in his zone is different than the 2 guard position in man for man, especially on defense and that Alan would have trouble learning how to play the 2 guard here. That should be the thing to argue about vs. Buddy. because with Bourama at center, Alan is likely to be the odd man out if he can't play the '2'.

 

[Alsacs]

I think the Kadary conditioning statement was ill-advised to say the least, especially since he played 30+ minutes when Buddy was out. The issue isn't really Kadary vs. Buddy since Kadary can't play the 2: he doesn't shoot well enough. It's Kadary vs. Joe at the point. And what determines Kadary's minutes is whether the other team plays a zone or man for man. Kadary, at least at this point, is a much superior player vs.. a man for man than he is vs. zone. I still think that if you have three guards and two are specialists, the combo guy, (Girard) should be the back-up and get his his minutes spelling both positions.

The real issue is Buddy vs. Alan Griffin if Bourama comes back. Griffin played guard at Illinois, can hit from long range and can do more things than Buddy. JB's stated reason for not using Griffin at guard is that the 2 guard position in his zone is different than the 2 guard position in man for man, especially on defense and that Alan would have trouble learning how to play the 2 guard here. That should be the thing to argue about vs. Buddy. because with Bourama at center, Alan is likely to be the odd man out if he can't play the '2'.

Joe can play SG with Kadary at PG.
JG and KR shouldn’t be a platoon only.

If the minutes were KR 25 JG 25 BB 30 then people wouldn’t say much.
The minutes are BB 36 KR 17 JG 27.

The only way for KR to get more minutes is for JG to get some of BB’s which isn’t happening because of JB saying spacing szn.

 

[Red Holzman]

Is anybody buying/defending what JB's selling on Kadary's PT?
Appears 100% alignment here in this thread(?) That says a lot.

JB can stubbornly hold the line with his confounding reasons -It Is Great To Be King.
Kadary is being held hostage by a stubborn old coach pulling reasons out of his... hat.

If the result is Kadary hits the transfer portal -oh my.
The already wavering fan support for JB and the program would reach a new low.
Unfortunate all the way around.

 

[Cuse1055]

Is anybody buying/defending what JB's selling on Kadary's PT?
Appears 100% alignment here in this thread(?) That says a lot.

JB can stubbornly hold the line with his confounding reasons -It Is Great To Be King.
Kadary is being held hostage by a stubborn old coach pulling reasons out of his... hat.

If the result is Kadary hits the transfer portal -oh my.
The already wavering fan support for JB and the program would reach a new low.
Unfortunate all the way around.

Yeah if Kadary isn’t here next year, Boeheim will feel A LOT of heat from fans and quite possibly some former players (Etan for one).

 

[Alsacs]

Yeah if Kadary isn’t here next year, Boeheim will feel A LOT of heat from fans and quite possibly some former players (Etan for one).

I don’t think Kadary will transfer.
The one time exception hasn’t passed and I don’t see him sitting out a year.
What would scare me from him is him saying screw playing just half of the game I will go play in the G League get paid and get pro coaching and after next year’s G League enter the draft.

I don’t think he will play for another college team because of sitting out.

 

[OrangeDW]

I don’t think Kadary will transfer.
The one time exception hasn’t passed and I don’t see him sitting out a year.
What would scare me from him is him saying screw playing just half of the game I will go play in the G League get paid and get pro coaching and after next year’s G League enter the draft.

I don’t think he will play for another college team because of sitting out.

This really is incredible. We finally backed our way into recruiting a good PG prospect that can actually play at this level for once. And we’re not coming close to maximizing him.

 

[Red Holzman]

I don’t think Kadary will transfer.
The one time exception hasn’t passed and I don’t see him sitting out a year.
What would scare me from him is him saying screw playing just half of the game I will go play in the G League get paid and get pro coaching and after next year’s G League enter the draft.

I don’t think he will play for another college team because of sitting out.

Good point-
Is it even remotely possible that JB believes (knows?) Kadary is leaving regardless, and therefore stays on his planned course with his favored guard tandem?
Yes a crazy notion, but this whole scenario is Twilight Zone worthy -trying to understand the plot that explains it.

 

[Alsacs]

Good point-
Is it even remotely possible that JB believes (knows?) Kadary is leaving regardless, and therefore stays on his planned course with his favored guard tandem?
Yes a crazy notion, but this whole scenario is Twilight Zone worthy -trying to understand the plot that explains it.

I don’t think JB is stupid.
I think JB is stubborn and actually doesn’t believe KR is as good as we the fanbase think.
Which is kinda contradictory to my first sentence but if JB believes it’s not.

If you asked ACC coaches which guard on our roster they would take I venture most would take Richmond first.
Buddy would be valuable for a NC contender to be a guard off the bench.
I was looking up top teams and Fran McCaffrey has 2 sons playing for Iowa the better son plays 23 MPG and the worse son about 14 MPG.

The better son is 5th on the team in minutes which is still more than what KR gets per game.
Garza only plays about 31 MPG because he probably can’t physically play more.

I believe JB thinks BB is JJ Reddick type of player. He isn’t but JB is the coach and we can all complain until he feels differently it’s not going to change. That is why when feeds these answers of KR plays a lot and has a stamina issue they don’t pass the smell test.

If KR isn’t back next year I give up. He is a good player but even if he played Tyler Ennis minutes I think he would have been a 2 year player.

 

[sufandu]

I think the Kadary conditioning statement was ill-advised to say the least, especially since he played 30+ minutes when Buddy was out. The issue isn't really Kadary vs. Buddy since Kadary can't play the 2: he doesn't shoot well enough. It's Kadary vs. Joe at the point. And what determines Kadary's minutes is whether the other team plays a zone or man for man. Kadary, at least at this point, is a much superior player vs.. a man for man than he is vs. zone. I still think that if you have three guards and two are specialists, the combo guy, (Girard) should be the back-up and get his his minutes spelling both positions.

The real issue is Buddy vs. Alan Griffin if Bourama comes back. Griffin played guard at Illinois, can hit from long range and can do more things than Buddy. JB's stated reason for not using Griffin at guard is that the 2 guard position in his zone is different than the 2 guard position in man for man, especially on defense and that Alan would have trouble learning how to play the 2 guard here. That should be the thing to argue about vs. Buddy. because with Bourama at center, Alan is likely to be the odd man out if he can't play the '2'.

I just don't buy the argument that Griffin can't play the 2 because of defense. We have had a bunch of guys that played the 2 and the 3 in the zone. Is Griffin a slow learner?