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sousaphones, not tubas
I was in marching band for 5 years and instructed for another 5. I'm aware. But the slang term "sousa" is less accessible than just calling it a tuba.
 
Anyone else get the SU how can we improve experience survey today? Maybe we can comment to the sound being bad there.
Yup. I noted the sound and how the drone contest caused a false start on the offense. Can’t make this stuff up.
 
the Dome could make sound better with 1 super quick adjustment... turn the volume DOWN. its like 10 notches too loud and makes a bad sound 10x worse.
It doesn't help that the announcer speaks like he's at a WWF match.
 
I was at Iowa-Iowa State on Saturday. Iowa State had 35 tubas. Maybe tubas can't afford private school tuition (and the tuba players I've known probably don't have the grades to qualify for scholarships!)
I agree with you but ISU has almost 31,000 students and marching band is a beloved tradition at Big 10 and Big 12 schools. We have a glorified drum and bugle corps.
 
I agree with you but ISU has almost 31,000 students and marching band is a beloved tradition at Big 10 and Big 12 schools. We have a glorified drum and bugle corps.
I just wanted to report on the number of tubas in the Iowa State band. I really don't want to to talk about the SUMB, positive or negative.
 
Haven't been to a game yet in the new dome (hopefully this year), but watching the game at home, when you can hear the PA guy in the background of the TV audio, it sounds clear. You can clearly hear when he's announcing the down and yardage and such. Must be something in the way they pipe other audio through the system?
Agree Mr Excitement is fine.

To be fair, it is hard to optimize a sound system that has so many different inputs.

There are videos they play. There are field mics used by tie refs, others by band members singing the NA, others by Kim, others by the cheerleaders (and the cute kids they bring out).

Everyone has a different voice too.

Looks like they optimized it for Mr Excitement and decided not to worry about everything else.

The sound wasn’t always great before the new sound system but it was far better than what we have now. Better technology but awful use of it. I hope the powers that he understand the current situation is completely unacceptable and that it will be addressed for Army.

If there was a change between Colgate and WMU, it somehow made things even worse.
 
I just wanted to report on the number of tubas in the Iowa State band. I really don't want to to talk about the SUMB, positive or negative.
Understand. I was in SUMB (trombone) 1964-68 and our directors were old school Big 10-style directors. I do think that Dr. Diem is doing a great job with this group.
 
Agree Mr Excitement is fine.

To be fair, it is hard to optimize a sound system that has so many different inputs.

There are videos they play. There are field mics used by tie refs, others by band members singing the NA, others by Kim, others by the cheerleaders (and the cute kids they bring out).

Everyone has a different voice too.

Looks like they optimized it for Mr Excitement and decided not to worry about everything else.

The sound wasn’t always great before the new sound system but it was far better than what we have now. Better technology but awful use of it. I hope the powers that he understand the current situation is completely unacceptable and that it will be addressed for Army.

If there was a change between Colgate and WMU, it somehow made things even worse.

At this point almost seems like with all the advanced technology anyone who wants to hear any stadium audio/announcements could just use earbuds or headphones and tap into it bia bluetooth? Then everyone who doesn't could follow the video board if they can hear it clearly?

It's crystal clear on TV.
 
lots of places struggle with sound inputs. Dont they have a sound engineer to work on it? All the canned stuff they know exactly how it sounds, if anything fix the canned stuff, what of the live stuff does anyone really care about.

took me awhile since i can only see about half the stats on the inside board, but I wondered why it was off on catches then when I finally got a phone to load i figured out it was not catches/yds it was catches/YPC.. a stat that is just dumb to use as a prime stat..
 
At this point almost seems like with all the advanced technology anyone who wants to hear any stadium audio/announcements could just use earbuds or headphones and tap into it bia bluetooth? Then everyone who doesn't could follow the video board if they can hear it clearly?

It's crystal clear on TV.
Most, maybe all of what we are talking about regards audio played on the sound system in the dome.

It includes IInterviews by Kim Infanti.

Interviews with Coach Babers.

Audio from the refs explaining how they blew another call.

Narration by the Syracuse starters saying their name, position and hometown.

Maybe they put the blumbling ref attempts to explain their screwups on the telecasts.

I don’t think they include most of the other stuff. This is the stuff that is exceptionally terrible.
 
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Most, maybe all of what we are talking about regards audio played on the sound system in the dome.

It includes IInterviews by Kim Infanti.

Interviews with Coach Babers.

Audio from the refs explaining how they blew another call.

Narration by the Syracuse starters saying their name, position and hometown.

Maybe they put the blurbing ref attempts to explain their screwups on the telecasts.

I don’t think they include most of the other stuff. This is the stuff that is exceptionally terrible.

I completely follow. Just generally curious if it is a major acoustics issue that seems impossible to fix maybe it's time for a different approach?
 
Maybe this.

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On another subject, there are two JMA Wireless logos on the field, one on the north side and one on the south side. They both face the south side. It makes us northsiders feel like they don't care about us. :mad:
 
I completely follow. Just generally curious if it is a major acoustics issue that seems impossible to fix maybe it's time for a different approach?

There are 2 issues IMO. One is the acoustics issue where it is hard to understand what is being said. The other is the volume, which even if you could understand what is being said it is waaaay too loud. The later should be an easy fix and would make the former less noticeable.
 
The only thing you can hear is the PA guy - Kim Infanti and that whole "schtick" should be put in mothballs permanently. Those cut ins add nothing to the game experience.
I have to plug my ears when she’s screeching. It’s awful
 
Also, they have closed captioning on the corner scoreboard when someone speaks. Can't they turn the volume way down and if someone can't hear, have the closed caption on the big screens?
 
Also, they have closed captioning on the corner scoreboard when someone speaks. Can't they turn the volume way down and if someone can't hear, have the closed caption on the big screens?
When I go to the Dome I'm suddenly dependent on the closed captioning. I'm glad it's there, even if it makes funny sentences sometimes.
 
On another subject, there are two JMA Wireless logos on the field, one on the north side and one on the south side. They both face the south side. It makes us northsiders feel like they don't care about us. :mad:
not very inclusive
 
On another subject, there are two JMA Wireless logos on the field, one on the north side and one on the south side. They both face the south side. It makes us northsiders feel like they don't care about us. :mad:
Pretty sure this was done because the TV cameras are on the south side of the field.

I think the band mostly faces the south side too (where the students sit).

If there was no roof, north side ticket holders would get the sun in their eyes too. This assumes that the sun ever comes out during SU football games. It happens. But not that often.

No respect.
 
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Pretty sure this was done because the TV cameras are on the south side of the field.

I think the band mostly faces the south side too (where the students sit).

If there was no roof, you would get the sun in your eyes too.

No respect.
I'm sure you're right. The whole point is to get publicity for JMA so it's going to be positioned so the much larger tv audience can see what the logo says on the field. There are plenty of other JMA logos for the in person audience to see.
 

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