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I've heard and read a lot of Lakers fans almost viewing yesterday's Magic appearance as a positive. Now the organization can say Magic was a big cause for the chaos but we're tightening things up now and moving forward in a cohesive direction. Ramona, who is Jeannie's unofficial spokeswoman, is basically playing this card to the public as well.
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As a Knicks fan I personally hope the Lakers change nothing. Laker fans don’t know misery.
Her brother had the same last name and was killed for how he and Mitch Kupchick ran the Lakers. Jim Buss running the Lakers was killed in the media.
Jeanie has been just as unstable and doesn’t get the same coverage.
Consistency is all that is needed.
Right now the Knicks are less of a clown show than the Lakers.
Steve Mills and Scott Perry are competent NBA adults who know what they are doing.
Jim Dolan hasn’t embarrassed himself since the Oakley incident.
Lakers have Pelinka snaking their legend who is getting killed for being the team President and not the GM.
The owner is wishy washy and doesn’t appear like she wants to anyone to dislike her thus won’t make hard decisions.
The Lakers are more dysfunctional the Knicks have people in place as long as their owner just stays playing music with his band and out of the public you can see the plan.
As good as Steph has been he has garbage in the NBA Finals.
Durant has been the guy to win Finals MVP 2 years in a row and has been the guy to win game 3 of the Finals 2 years in a row.
Harrison Barnes being garbage in 2016 was part of the reason Golden State lost.
Durant made them unbeatable. The Warriors are lucky the Blazers were not a tough opponent. The Warriors tough opponent was Houston in he second round.
The 8 teams that made the second round the Den-Por winner was going to be the weakest winner of a series.
If they played the entire Houston series without Durant we would see Duran’s value.
Winning one game against Houston without Durant the greatness of Steph Curry can do easily.
The Bucks are going to tough for Golden State without Durant.
Especially with Iggy banged up.
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Curry isn't a top 5 player in the league??? That is nuts. Is someone going to tell me Harden or Westbrook is better?
Also to say he's been garbage in the finals really isn't accurate. That's Max Kellerman talk.
His finals averages are 25.4/6/5.
Also to say he's been garbage in the finals really isn't accurate. That's Max Kellerman talk.
His finals averages are 25.4/6/5.
He is a top 5 player.
Durant, LeBron, Giannis, Steph, Kawhi are my top 5.
Then Harden, Anthony Davis, Dame Lillard, Embiid, George round out my top 10.
With what shooting percentages in the Finals?
Curry hasn’t been good in the Finals.
Also I guessing his numbers have been better the last 2 years where Durant’s have been really good as he has the MVPs. Durant has been the best player in the Finals the last 2 years.
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Am I crazy for thinking worst case scenario for GS is Durant tries to rush back and play when he's not close to 100% specifically because the talk that GS is fine without him starts to bother him.
Throws off the rhythm they found in the Portland series without him on the floor and then you have Durant forcing things to prove he's needed when he isn't playing at full strength and may not be as efficient.
If Iggy isn't 100% though that really hurts them. Him and Draymond are pretty much the perfect defensive chess pieces in the modern NBA with their versatility, energy and athleticism on that end.
Throws off the rhythm they found in the Portland series without him on the floor and then you have Durant forcing things to prove he's needed when he isn't playing at full strength and may not be as efficient.
If Iggy isn't 100% though that really hurts them. Him and Draymond are pretty much the perfect defensive chess pieces in the modern NBA with their versatility, energy and athleticism on that end.
Durant shouldn’t rush back as he has nothing to lose.
If the Warriors lose to the Bucks/Raptors it shows his worth.
If the Warriors win it gives him even more cover to go to the Knicks without looking bad.
Durant rushing back would show how thin skinned sensitive he is too hot takers trying to rattle him.
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I know you didn't. Eric did. A lot of people put this value on regular seasons and most of the Warriors have coasted in the regular season the past two years so of course they won't have great counting stats like other players.
He's been pretty consistent. And hes shot 44/40/92 in the finals. He averaged 26/6/6 that first finals Iguodala won MVP averaging 16 points. I still don't understand giving it to him when Lebron still averaged 40/12/10.
Steph's finals stats are better than Kobe Bryant's career playoff stats. I know scoring continues to rise in this era, but thats pretty remarkable.
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exactly my point
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I think you misunderstood my post. When I said they were doing this without a Top 5 player I was referring to the absence of Durant. I wasn’t referring to Curry at all who may very well be a Top 5 player also.
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Ok yes I did. That makes sense.
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Low by his standards, but he did it on 56% TS% in last year's finals. He was inarguably excellent with the exception of one game last year; nearly a 62% TS% in the other 3 games.
Edit: His career TS% in the Finals is 58.6%, which again, is low by his standards, but good in general. Certainly has not been garbage. To put that in perspective, Michael Jordan's career TS% in the NBA Finals was 55.9%. Lebron's is 55.1%.
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If Ball gets dealt to Chicago for #7. Is it worth the Pels dealing AD for Ingram, Kuzma, 4 and 7? As the resident Pels fan, I think I'd take it. 3 top 7 picks with 2 good young players is a nice haul. Ingram though presents his own problems if you trade for him. What the hell do you pay him after the season?
If the Bulls deal #7 for Lonzo Ball they might break the fanbase and get GarPax fired.
The Knicks #3 pick or Celtics Tatum package are probably better.
The 4th pick isn’t worth that much in a draft with 3 studs.
It’s not a bad deal though.
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Having the ECF start at 8:30 is really annoying. I am already pretty beat after last night's overtime escapade and I get they want as many viewers as possible, but in the past I am pretty sure it has been an 8pm start. I am too old to stay up to midnight back to back nights.
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How do you figure that would break them? That makes little sense. They need a PG real bad and Lonzo is certainly preferable to Coby White since Morant and Garland won't be available at 7. Their own main blogs acknowledge that they'd have to likely give up 7 and something to get him and think it's worthwhile, so not sure where you came up with that.
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Tatums value has drastically dropped
Lonzo can’t shoot. If the Lakers can turn his first 2 years into the 7th overall pick they win bigtime.
Ball hasn’t shown he is worth that.
GarPax could trade Jabari Parker’s contract and a pick for Mike Conley and keep the 7th pick.
Lonzo Ball for a top 10 pick insane.
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Jabari’s contract is essentially expiring this offseason and he’s with Washington anyways (remember the Otto Porter trade?)
Anywho, I tend to agree that I don’t think Lonzo should be valued for a top 10 pick after his first two years. Also don’t think it makes much sense for the Lakers unless they plan on flipping that pick...Lebron doesn’t want another rookie.
4 + 7 plus other pieces is definitely alluring but I would want Barrett or Morant from this draft. Something like Garland and Doumbouya (or however you spell it) could end up being a good alternative though. Who really knows?
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He had only played basketball for a short period of years, so people thought he would have higher than normal upside.
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This is a 3 player draft. I'd take Lonzos expected growth starting from a baseline of 10/6/6 with elite defense at ages 19/20 over anyone in this draft outside of the top 3 and possibly Garland. Hunter & Culver don't excite me in any way.
Also why would they ever consider dealing for Conley when they're entire core is 20-23? That's ridiculous.
