Melo was definitely sold on a vision from Phil and Fish and that vision wasn't play for a garbage team to finish out your career.
Yup, looks like our core is Grant-Galloway-Porzingis-Melo-Monroe.. That will sure lure the Free Agents in '16...
Porzingis better get run this year and prove he can do something because if Mudiay or Winslow play well this year, it's gonna get ugly.
Oh chit I just saw the 2016 NYK first round pick is property of Toronto for Andrea Bargnani. OMG I can't believe Toronto could get a top 5 pick for that stiff? Please tell me that was an Isiah Thomas trade.
Hearing maybe it's David West instead of Monroe? I loved the Grant trade. Meh on the zinger. I'd feel a lot better if we had a pick next year.
Let's see what happens after the FA period and the trades that take place. Lot's of talk the Nets want to dump salary. No certainty that Joe Johnson, D. Williams or even Brooke Lopez will be there when the smoke clears. Let's see who Phil signs.Who wins more games in 2015-2016 the Knicks or Nets?
What's incredible (besides anyone giving up anything for that pile Bargnani) is that the Knicks didn't have the smarts to at least get SOME lottery protection (like if they get the #1-3 pick) which most teams write in. To this day the organization won't say who ordered that trade.Denver is going to suck next year. So I doubt unless the NYK finishes top 3 in the lottery they will swap. Toronto is going to get a lottery pick for a stiff which is incredible.
Knicks are getting Monroe. They better hope for less than Max, but I don't see even with Monroe and West them winning more than 30-35 games.Let's see what happens after the FA period and the trades that take place. Lot's of talk the Nets want to dump salary. No certainty that Joe Johnson, D. Williams or even Brooke Lopez will be there when the smoke clears. Let's see who Phil signs.
I think you're way overrating Indiana.Eastern Conference 2015-2016
Playoff teams
Cleveland
Chicago
Indiana
Washington
probable playoff teams
Atlanta
Toronto
Miami
These teams are fighting for the 8 seed Boston, Brooklyn, Charlotte, Detroit,Milwaukee, New York
lottery: Orlando and Philly
It all depends on FA but who are signing that will make us any better than a fringe playoff team and who are we signing that will attract Free Agents in '16?Why do the Knicks have to be garbage? They drafted three good players last night and they have a lot of cap space.
Interesting that Knicks would go after West who plays the same position as The Zinger (PF). That would mean the plan is to bring Zinger off the bench, not rely too heavily on him his first year, give him some time to develop, and increase his PT as he earns it. I like that idea better. Monroe isn't a bad option at C as long as it's not a max contract. I do think Phil will make the team better and curious to see what he does.Knicks are getting Monroe. They better hope for less than Max, but I don't see even with Monroe and West them winning more than 30-35 games.
David West is linked to NYK. I wouldn't mind him as long as we're not paying him much.Yeah, I think Indiana could likely be in the lottery again next year even with Paul George. That team is a shell of itself. Probably going to dump Hibbert, David West, and maybe George Hill.
Melo-West-Monroe? That frontcourt makes no sense. 3 guys who all like to play inside the arc and around the basket? It's a lesser version of Lebron trying to operate with Thompson and Mozgov in the game.Interesting that Knicks would go after West who plays the same position as The Zinger (PF). That would mean the plan is to bring Zinger off the bench, not rely too heavily on him his first year, give him some time to develop, and increase his PT as he earns it. I like that idea better. Monroe isn't a bad option at C as long as it's not a max contract. I do think Phil will make the team better and curious to see what he does.
It all depends on FA but who are signing that will make us any better than a fringe playoff team and who are we signing that will attract Free Agents in '16?
Most of the top FA's in '15 are already linked to somewhere that's not NY. We can hope for Marc Gasol but I doubt that's happening... I guess Carroll and Monroe would be ok. Grant could be alright but he's nothing more than a role player, the 2 Euro's will take time but here's to hoping Porzingis balls out sooner rather than later.
Melo-West-Monroe? That frontcourt makes no sense. 3 guys who all like to play inside the arc and around the basket? It's a lesser version of Lebron trying to operate with Thompson and Mozgov in the game.
I like West as a back up. Hate him as a starter.
Paul George is a top 10 player in the league and he is healthy now. I think the Pacers are an obvious playoff team next year. They aren't going to win the East though.I think you're way overrating Indiana.
Melo is becoming more and more a perimeter player with less inside scoring every year. He has fallen in love with the 3.Melo-West-Monroe? That frontcourt makes no sense. 3 guys who all like to play inside the arc and around the basket? It's a lesser version of Lebron trying to operate with Thompson and Mozgov in the game.
I like West as a back up. Hate him as a starter.
Oh yea, I forgot, 2 point jump shots...triangle...archaic basketball. Sounds awesome. West and Monroe have a mid-range game but neither is a 3 point threat, which is fine when your SF doesn't like to iso on the mid-post/block, not very advantageous when he does. ...but #triangle, 2 point jumpshots are the greatest.Melo, West, and Monroe can all play away from the basket.
Phil Jackson is just stealing Dolan's money. The guy has not been consistent in his plan. Unless he swings a miracle and gets Marc Gasol the Knicks will suck next year. Aldridge is going to San Antonio or Portland, Rondo is going to Sacramento, Love is going to LA or Cleveland. Phil needs Gasol or the NYK are garbage next year. Melo should have gone to Chicago in a sign and trade.
No chance Monroe and Ellis turn them into a 45 win team. The East isn't as deep as the West, but the Knicks would be lucky to finish 8th next year with Monroe, Ellis.Those aren't the only guys out there(and I wouldn't want Rondo anyway).
Monroe, Knight, Ellis, Milsap, Carroll, Middleton, Reggie Jackson...there's lots of guys.
The East sucks. Sign, for example, Monroe and Ellis and they probably win 45 games while hopefully developing Zingis.
They're not going to have a whole lot around George unless they get really creative.Paul George is a top 10 player in the league and he is healthy now. I think the Pacers are an obvious playoff team next year. They aren't going to win the East though.
No chance Monroe and Ellis turn them into a 45 win team. The East isn't as deep as the West, but the Knicks would be lucky to finish 8th next year with Monroe, Ellis.
Atlanta has Milsap's Bird rights, Carrol is from ATL
Detroit is going to let Monroe go to resign Jackson
Middleton is a RFA that I doubt the Bucks wouldn't match anything decent
Brandon Knight I believe has 1 yr left with Suns.
The Knicks aren't the only team flush with cash and Jackson isn't going to give long term contracts out with cap rising and playres taking short deals.