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NBA playoffs: greatest show on Earth

OttoinGrotto said:
Doesn't Brady have businesses that don't pay rent to the Kraft empire too?
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He has TB-12 business on the Patriots Place mall. Brady technically pays rent to Kraft. It could be really cheap though.
The ownership deal is the rumor.
 
Briancuse said:
Lebron is an immortal player but there will never be another mj he is the goat.
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So no player , even those not yet born, can ever be better than Jordan? Personally I think Lebron is a better player and Im old enough to remember Jordan in depth. There has never been anything like Lebron. Jordan is thought of as the better player because he never lost in the finals. I don't make judgements based on outcomes of short series, but rather take into account the entire body of work.
 
Melancer46 said:
Fun fact: Ben Simmons is the first guard/forward since the 1992-1993 season to play at least 2500 minutes without making a 3 pointer.

The most recent guard/forward to play that many minutes while attempted 11 or less (Simmons attempted 11) was Avery Johnson in the 1999-2000 season but he made 1 of his.
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i believe they were something like -60 something with him on the court and plus 40 something with him off. if you are not even a THREAT to shoot a 15 footer, and you aren't a center, you are a liability.
 
STEVEHOLT said:
So no player , even those not yet born, can ever be better than Jordan? Personally I think Lebron is a better player and Im old enough to remember Jordan in depth. There has never been anything like Lebron. Jordan is thought of as the better player because he never lost in the finals. I don't make judgements based on outcomes of short series, but rather take into account the entire body of work.
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Jordan is thought of as the better player because he is considered the ultimate competitor. He represents the pathological depths of a desire to win.

LeBron can't match that.
 
STEVEHOLT said:
So no player , even those not yet born, can ever be better than Jordan? Personally I think Lebron is a better player and Im old enough to remember Jordan in depth. There has never been anything like Lebron. Jordan is thought of as the better player because he never lost in the finals. I don't make judgements based on outcomes of short series, but rather take into account the entire body of work.
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Rules were different.
Physicality has been pushed out of the game.
Skill level now is better but there was less teams in Jordan’s Era and teams could be stronger than now.
LeBron is a top 3 player alltime but he will never pass Jordan for me.
Jordan would be just as dominant now than he was in 89s/90s.
Jordan was a better version of Kobe.
LeBron is a mix of Magic Johnson and Karl Malone which is amazing but doesn’t have the killer instinct Jordan had.
 
Alsacs said:
Rules were different.
Physicality has been pushed out of the game.
Skill level now is better but there was less teams in Jordan’s Era and teams could be stronger than now.
LeBron is a top 3 player alltime but he will never pass Jordan for me.
Jordan would be just as dominant now than he was in 89s/90s.
Jordan was a better version of Kobe.
LeBron is a mix of Magic Johnson and Karl Malone which is amazing but doesn’t have the killer instinct Jordan had.
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Jordan reached the point where you knew his team was winning no matter what.

And I’m always surprised at how people seem to forget how trash Rodman and Pippen were by the 98 playoffs. Pippen was hurt half that season and was physically shot and NEVER played at his previous level again, and Rodman was seemingly running on fumes by that point physically and mentally.

That 98 title was basically all Jordan...right down to the final minute where he made all the plays to pull it out. Amazing.
 
Alsacs said:
Rules were different.
Physicality has been pushed out of the game.
Skill level now is better but there was less teams in Jordan’s Era and teams could be stronger than now.
LeBron is a top 3 player alltime but he will never pass Jordan for me.
Jordan would be just as dominant now than he was in 89s/90s.
Jordan was a better version of Kobe.
LeBron is a mix of Magic Johnson and Karl Malone which is amazing but doesn’t have the killer instinct Jordan had.
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Your first sentence is spot on. Can you imagine how much more lethal Jordan would have been playing in today's NBA? He was unstoppable even when the opposition was allowed to goon it up.

No comparison.
 
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STEVEHOLT said:
So no player , even those not yet born, can ever be better than Jordan? Personally I think Lebron is a better player and Im old enough to remember Jordan in depth. There has never been anything like Lebron. Jordan is thought of as the better player because he never lost in the finals. I don't make judgements based on outcomes of short series, but rather take into account the entire body of work.
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No there isn't and its not a knock lebron is the 2nd best player I have ever seen play and that includes Kobe and magic. Jordans will to win was 2nd to none.
 
Jordan in addition to playing in the much more physical nba played against better competition. The bad boy pistons birds Celtics some really good knicks and pacer teams. Dominque wilkens. Some really good Utah teams.
 
MSOrange said:
Well that was impressive. Not sure Boston can play much better than that
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LeBron will come back no doubt but that was a complete 180 from last year’s ECF games in Boston.

I can’t imagine how the Celtics would be with Kyrie and Hayward.

Scary Terry is telling me offer Pop Kyrie straight up for Kwahi as they wouldn’t get a better player offered
From anyone else.
Dollar bill for dollar bill.
 
The Celtics have been dogs in their last four homes games yet have won each one outright. Have won eight straight overall at home. You'd think somebody would catch up to the idea that they're pretty tough at home.
 
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Alsacs said:
Scary Terry is telling me offer Pop Kyrie straight up for Kwahi as they wouldn’t get a better player offered
From anyone else.
Dollar bill for dollar bill.
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I know Ainge is a tinkerer, but do they actually get better making that deal?
 
OttoinGrotto said:
I know Ainge is a tinkerer, but do they actually get better making that deal?
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Of course to beat Golden State any team multiple elite defenders.
If Kawhi is healthy he is an elite defender.
Kyrie gives the Spurs the best player they getting in a trade.
 
Alsacs said:
Of course to beat Golden State any team multiple elite defenders.
If Kawhi is healthy he is an elite defender.
Kyrie gives the Spurs the best player they getting in a trade.
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Who's your point guard?
 
Briancuse said:
No there isn't and its not a knock lebron is the 2nd best player I have ever seen play and that includes Kobe and magic. Jordans will to win was 2nd to none.
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I have a really hard time believing Jordan would have given up so completely in the 4th like I saw LeBron do today.
 
OrangeDW said:
Jordan reached the point where you knew his team was winning no matter what.

And I’m always surprised at how people seem to forget how trash Rodman and Pippen were by the 98 playoffs. Pippen was hurt half that season and was physically shot and NEVER played at his previous level again, and Rodman was seemingly running on fumes by that point physically and mentally.

That 98 title was basically all Jordan...right down to the final minute where he made all the plays to pull it out. Amazing.
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Pippen averaged nearly 20 a game in 98 and 17, 7, and 5 in the playoffs. That was his last great season though.
 
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