New DC ideas

[Grbac]

Charlie Partridge - Pitt
Was Wisconsin coDC with Ash
Good recruiter
Coached with Dino at Pitt, carpooled together, were friends.

Jim Leavitt - Fl St
Loads of experience
Good recruiter

Ted Roof - App st
Loads of experience
ACC experience
Lots of success with defense

Joe Harasymiak - Minn
Great defense at Maine as DC and HC
Young up and comer 33yrs old


Just a few suggestions.

 

[reedny]

Not sure if these names have been mentioned. I know some may not have a direct connection to recruiting, but are I believe candidates to consider given their track record. (Now, these are all Base Salary figures)

Phil Parker, DC, Iowa Salary: $595,000

Bert Watts, DC, Fresno State Salary: $275,000
(This one intrigues me and has had success as Defensive mind - Plus he's young and New Jersey guy)

David Reeves, DC, UAB Salary: $170,000
(This is another guy I like; considering UAB didn’t field a team in 2015 or 2016, those results are not too shabby. - Recruiting may not be his strength but heck of a coordinator)

Jim Leonhard, DC, Wisconsin $795,200 (~$4.1M Total)
(Yet another guy that intrigues me, may recognize him for his time as a player with the JETS; Young up and coming coach who I believed already turned down a few gigs as a coach)

Bob Shoop, DC, Mississippi State $400,000 (~$3.575M Total)
(Relatively young PA guy who is definitely up and coming and smart - worth considering)

Jay Bateman, co-DC, North Carolina Salary: N/A (Listed previously at ARMY last and not disclosed)
(Another option since he is co-DC at UNC; may want to actually be a full-time DC)

Clark Lea, DC, Notre Dame Salary: N/A (Independent - Not Divulged)
(This is a familiar name, though not sure he'll leave South Ben)

Mike MacIntyre, DC Ole Miss (Not Sure if he's currently coaching) Salary: $1.5M
(This is a Florida guy)

Again please take a look at these names as possible candidates, and of course just food for thought!
Thought of throwing out perhaps the not so obvious ones or mentioned.

LGO!

I'm wondering about our hiring strategy. Presumably, we're bringing in a new DC to install a fresh scheme. Secondarily, I assume we'd go after a guy with recruiting chops who has ties to an important area (Florida), or is at least young and personable enough to help. If that's the strategy, seems like MacIntyre is very attractive (and of course the most money coming from SEC).

 

[IthacaMatt]

He was probably our best DC in the last 20 years. It's never going to happen, but i'd be okay w/ it if it did. If anything, i remember Babers had a connection to Bullough.

I remember Babers hired Ward b/c he felt his Defense gave him trouble. Based on that criteria, going with a high pressure D that mixes up the blitzes well (a Shafer type-Defense, though many others do the same) seems like a gimme.

He left on bad terms, and his wife said some nasty things to the papers when she came back with him (and they got that win - ugh). Not ever going to happen, but in the early days of his defense, he did a terrific job.

 

[PhatOrange]

The NAVY guy who’s connected to Dino checks a lot of boxes.

 

[Alsacs]

I said look at defensive coaches from Temple and Navy. Those teams don't have more talent than we do and they have a good way to make their defenses competent.

 

[IthacaMatt]

His defenses during his head coaching tenure were some of the worst in our history. His current defense is giving up 31.1 points per game this season. In a terrible conference.

To be fair, when he was head coach, he wasn't hands-on coaching the defense. As a coordinator under Marrone, he did a good job; probably the best defenses we've had this century.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Why not Greg Schiano if he doesn’t get the RU job. Guy could coach defense (Ohio St. DC) and recruit the heck out of the NY/NJ area. Pay him $1.3mm per year and if Dino leaves, which is doubtful now but you never know, he could step in as HC. Just an idea but one that I would entertain.

OMG, I would kill myself if Schiano ever became our head coach.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Why would he work for a school and a staff that essentially fired him. This isn’t about our decision not to hire him, it’s about his decision to not apply.

Common sense returns to the building ...

 

[orangepassion]

Appreciate the work. Some interesting names, some unrealistic names. i don't see why a current P5 DC make a lateral move to come here. So that takes out Parker, Leonhard, Shoop, Lea, Macintyre. Not sure if Bateman is the main playcaller or not at UNC, but if he is, no reason to leave.
That leaves Watts and Reeves, who have very good resumes. For a DC, recruiting is a bonus, not the main priority. Position coaches (except OL) are different.

Not sure if these names have been mentioned. I know some may not have a direct connection to recruiting, but are I believe candidates to consider given their track record. (Now, these are all Base Salary figures)

Phil Parker, DC, Iowa Salary: $595,000

Bert Watts, DC, Fresno State Salary: $275,000
(This one intrigues me and has had success as Defensive mind - Plus he's young and New Jersey guy)

David Reeves, DC, UAB Salary: $170,000
(This is another guy I like; considering UAB didn’t field a team in 2015 or 2016, those results are not too shabby. - Recruiting may not be his strength but heck of a coordinator)

Jim Leonhard, DC, Wisconsin $795,200 (~$4.1M Total)
(Yet another guy that intrigues me, may recognize him for his time as a player with the JETS; Young up and coming coach who I believed already turned down a few gigs as a coach)

Bob Shoop, DC, Mississippi State $400,000 (~$3.575M Total)
(Relatively young PA guy who is definitely up and coming and smart - worth considering)

Jay Bateman, co-DC, North Carolina Salary: N/A (Listed previously at ARMY last and not disclosed)
(Another option since he is co-DC at UNC; may want to actually be a full-time DC)

Clark Lea, DC, Notre Dame Salary: N/A (Independent - Not Divulged)
(This is a familiar name, though not sure he'll leave South Ben)

Mike MacIntyre, DC Ole Miss (Not Sure if he's currently coaching) Salary: $1.5M
(This is a Florida guy)

Again please take a look at these names as possible candidates, and of course just food for thought!
Thought of throwing out perhaps the not so obvious ones or mentioned.

LGO!

 

[HRE Otto IV]

To be fair, when he was head coach, he wasn't hands-on coaching the defense. As a coordinator under Marrone, he did a good job; probably the best defenses we've had this century.

Revisionist history

In conference games we were no higher than 5th out of 8 teams in ppg. For yards per play we were good only one year. 3rd down we were no higher than 4th. Redzone TD% we were pretty good. Sacks we were only good the first two years. TOs we were pretty good.

For every brilliant performance, he had a stinker.

 

[dollarbill44]

I do as well. Let’s make it happen

I feel like maybe that guy and his wife burned some bridges on their way out of town, didn't they? Maybe I'm misremembering.

 

[bnoro]

To be fair, when he was head coach, he wasn't hands-on coaching the defense. As a coordinator under Marrone, he did a good job; probably the best defenses we've had this century.

Last year's defense was better than any defense we had under Shafer.

 

[FloridaFan]

Last year's defense was better than any defense we had under Shafer.

DC shafer or HC shafer?

 

[IthacaMatt]

Revisionist history

In conference games we were no higher than 5th out of 8 teams in ppg. For yards per play we were good only one year. 3rd down we were no higher than 4th. Redzone TD% we were pretty good. Sacks we were only good the first two years. TOs we were pretty good.

For every brilliant performance, he had a stinker.

Hey, before that, we used to really, really suck.
So, being middle of the pack on defense was a huge improvement.
Wouldn't we love to have the 4th or 5th best offensive line in the ACC right now?

 

[IthacaMatt]

Last year's defense was better than any defense we had under Shafer.

OK. But take the 4 years that Dino has been here versus the four years that Shafer was Marrone's DC and which was better?

 

[TheCusian]

OK. But take the 4 years that Dino has been here versus the four years that Shafer was Marrone's DC and which was better?

You'd have to account for SOS and tempo to get this one right

 

[Orangello]

The NAVY guy who’s connected to Dino checks a lot of boxes.

Anchors away. Both of them (Co-DC's) look like good choices. Navy's going bowling this year so you might have to wait until Jan. but then again, if one of them leaves the other guy just takes full control.

 

[shu 49]

It's going to be Stanard.

They need to get rid of another 1-2 coaches and pay up for hired guns on the recruiting trail.

Ok Rocco I’m on board. Do u see him being more attack style defensive coach or sit back and wait which I vehemently disagree with.

 

[IthacaMatt]

In Dino's first year, we fell from the 98th "best" defense under Shafer to 122nd out of 127 teams, based on the NCAA's Total Defense ratings. (BC was first in the nation!)

Then we improved to 105th in total defense his 2nd year, 87th his third year, and now we're back down to 115th out of the now 130 teams that play FBS football.

So, the high water mark so far under Dino is 87th best in total defense, although we did really well in certain special categories - turnovers, sacks, 3rd down defense. It was the ability to overcome our below average tendencies with these special plays that permitted us to win 10 games last year.

Our defense should have resulted in maybe a 5 or 6 win season. But the special teams and turnovers and 3rd down defense lifted a below-average team to great heights. But that was last year.

In 2013, our defense was 33rd best in the country based on the NCAA's total defense statistics, and we finished 7-6. Shafer's defense his third year - 2014 - was 26th best in the country - and we finished 3-9.

So, his problems were clearly on the offensive side of the board, even when he was melting down.

Dino's defenses have never really been close, statistically speaking, to what Shafer was able to do, even as a head coach. It was the rest of the job - media obligations, organization, program management - that overwhelmed him.

At his core, Shafer is a very good defensive mind. Just like George DeLeone is a very good offensive line coach, despite his obvious limitations when he was asked to do more.

 

[bnoro]

In Dino's first year, we fell from the 98th "best" defense under Shafer to 122nd out of 127 teams, based on the NCAA's Total Defense ratings. (BC was first in the nation!)

Then we improved to 105th in total defense his 2nd year, 87th his third year, and now we're back down to 115th out of the now 130 teams that play FBS football.

So, the high water mark so far under Dino is 87th best in total defense, although we did really well in certain special categories - turnovers, sacks, 3rd down defense. It was the ability to overcome our below average tendencies with these special plays that permitted us to win 10 games last year.

Our defense should have resulted in maybe a 5 or 6 win season. But the special teams and turnovers and 3rd down defense lifted a below-average team to great heights. But that was last year.

In 2013, our defense was 33rd best in the country based on the NCAA's total defense statistics, and we finished 7-6. Shafer's defense his third year - 2014 - was 26th best in the country - and we finished 3-9.

So, his problems were clearly on the offensive side of the board, even when he was melting down.

Dino's defenses have never really been close, statistically speaking, to what Shafer was able to do, even as a head coach. It was the rest of the job - media obligations, organization, program management - that overwhelmed him.

At his core, Shafer is a very good defensive mind. Just like George DeLeone is a very good offensive line coach, despite his obvious limitations when he was asked to do more.

Total defense does not take into account pace of play. We almost doubled the amount of plays we ran under Dino since our offense was so bad under Shafer.

 

[Chip]

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[Newhouser]

I don't think we are getting a DC from any peer P5 school. The guy at Wiscy or Pitt or any current P5 DC is not coming here.

 

[dollarbill44]

I don't think we are getting a DC from any peer P5 school. The guy at Wiscy or Pitt or any current P5 DC is not coming here.

Even if he gets thrown out with the bathwater when the HC gets fired? Early December always provides some interesting storylines in coaching ranks.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Total defense does not take into account pace of play. We almost doubled the amount of plays we ran under Dino since our offense was so bad under Shafer.

It may not be the "perfect" measure, but it is how the NCAA measures defense, and it is one measuring stick to use, rather than just our opinions of what we see.

 

[bnoro]

It may not be the "perfect" measure, but it is how the NCAA measures defense, and it is one measuring stick to use, rather than just our opinions of what we see.

This is the argument that baseball people use to justify ancient stats like RBIs and Wins.