NFL Thread

[dasher]

Week 2 doesn't have many good games. I think Pittsburgh-Cincinnati and Green Bay-Minnesota are really the only 2 good games.

If the Giants hold the Saints under 3o I will say their D is really improved. I think the Pats could get beaten by the Dolphins after last week. This is the game I am most worried about. If they beat Miami they could go 4-0.

The problem with the Pats is that they are cheaters. Only team Pats members, of which I am not one, don't know that. One scandal after another. The whole country outside of New England believes they cheat. So it must be true, right.

 

[Alsacs]

The problem with the Pats is that they are cheaters. Only team Pats members, of which I am not one, don't know that. One scandal after another. The whole country outside of New England believes they cheat. So it must be true, right.

They got caught cheating in 2007 so Belichick deserves crap. They have had 2 incidents. Anyone with a brain knows Deflategate was nothing. Spygate was legit and they paid their price.

I honestly don't care if people hate the team as the hating is because they win. The last 16 years the team ahs gone 183-58 that is where the jealously from the owners comes from and the hatred from the fans.

The Raiders cheated in the 70's worse and they aren't hated now because they have gone down the toilet.

The Broncos cheated the salary cap to win 2 SBs in the 90's and no one cares.

The Falcons pumped in noise into their Dome and no one cares.

The Patriots are hated because they win and when they get caught cheating in 2007 it was a big deal because their arrogant coach is hated. The Deflategate crap is pure hatred of the team by other owners who wanted to stick it to Kraft.

 

[kirbivore]

The Broncos cheated the salary cap to win 2 SBs in the 90's and no one cares.

also chop blocking

 

[dasher]

They got caught cheating in 2007 so Belichick deserves crap. They have had 2 incidents. Anyone with a brain knows Deflategate was nothing. Spygate was legit and they paid their price.

I honestly don't care if people hate the team as the hating is because they win. The last 16 years the team ahs gone 183-58 that is where the jealously from the owners comes from and the hatred from the fans.

The Raiders cheated in the 70's worse and they aren't hated now because they have gone down the toilet.

The Broncos cheated the salary cap to win 2 SBs in the 90's and no one cares.

The Falcons pumped in noise into their Dome and no one cares.

The Patriots are hated because they win and when they get caught cheating in 2007 it was a big deal because their arrogant coach is hated. The Deflategate crap is pure hatred of the team by other owners who wanted to stick it to Kraft.

But, but, he destroyed his phone. And they taped the walk through.

 

[KaiserUEO]

ruh-ro haters.

film this week is being very kind to the Giants...

Film Review: The New York Giants vs. Ezekial Elliot (20 Carries, 51 Yards)

 

[Alsacs]

But, but, he destroyed his phone. And they taped the walk through.

Again Belichick did the deed and deserves some criticism for it. I don't think it should washed away.

Even Kaiser knows the phone was BS to swing public opinion and the Boston Herald issued front page apology for false taped walk through report.

I don't defend the team when they are wrong. That is why I have no problem with Spygate crap. People hate winners. That is it.

 

[MSOrange]

On another note, I like how Mike Zimmer is trying to keep it a secret whether he is starting Sam Bradford or Shaun Hill as if there is a huge difference between one mediocre QB and the other.

 

[Tobias Funke]

Again Belichick did the deed and deserves some criticism for it. I don't think it should washed away.

Even Kaiser knows the phone was BS to swing public opinion and the Boston Herald issued front page apology for false taped walk through report.

I don't defend the team when they are wrong. That is why I have no problem with Spygate crap. People hate winners. That is it.

pretty sure Dasher is with you on this. He is a non-Pats fan who was always pretty open minded about deflate gate

 

[Tobias Funke]

On another note, I like how Mike Zimmer is trying to keep it a secret whether he is starting Sam Bradford or Shaun Hill as if there is a huge difference between one mediocre QB and the other.

Yup. only question the opposing team has is just how much to stack the box

 

[KaiserUEO]

Again Belichick did the deed and deserves some criticism for it. I don't think it should washed away.

Even Kaiser knows the phone was BS to swing public opinion and the Boston Herald issued front page apology for false taped walk through report.

I don't defend the team when they are wrong. That is why I have no problem with Spygate crap. People hate winners. That is it.

no.

people hate cheaters.

the pats have 3 Lombardi's when cheating, and 1 when Pete Carroll was an idiot.

 

[Cowtown]

pretty sure Dasher is with you on this. He is a non-Pats fan who was always pretty open minded about deflate gate

Deflategate probably would have been just a minor league snit without Spygate. They put themselves in position to have their integrity questioned.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Deflategate probably would have been just a minor league snit without Spygate. They put themselves in position to have their integrity questioned.

it certainly appears they violated 'double secret probation' and then didn't comply with the public follow up.

 

[Cowtown]

"Geez Roger, come on! We wouldn't have had to deflate the balls if you'd let us keep filming their practices!"

 

[Cusefan0307]

pretty sure Dasher is with you on this. He is a non-Pats fan who was always pretty open minded about deflate gate

Yeah Dash wouldn't have gone of the rails if Alsacs didn't hate Hillary so much. Anyway:

Saints 38 Giants 28

Final Prediction for Sunday.

 

[Tobias Funke]

Deflategate probably would have been just a minor league snit without Spygate. They put themselves in position to have their integrity questioned.

I agree with that.

 

[Alsacs]

no.

people hate cheaters.

the pats have 3 Lombardi's when cheating, and 1 when Pete Carroll was an idiot.

So Denver only has 1 Lombardi when not cheating and the 2 SBs they cheated the cap and lost a 3rd round draft were won by cheating.

Everyone forgets the Broncos cheated the salary cap for their 2 SBs with Elway and they paid a price.

Cap zap: Broncos pay with fine, pick

 

[KaiserUEO]

So Denver only has 1 Lombardi when not cheating and the 2 SBs they cheated the cap and lost a 3rd round draft were won by cheating.

Everyone forgets the Broncos cheated the salary cap for their 2 SBs with Elway and they paid a price.

Cap zap: Broncos pay with fine, pick

id like to say I forgot, but honestly, I don't even remember that.

but id guess its why the NFL threw the book at the skins and pokes cap shenanigans a few years later.

id start saying in bars that the broncos only have 1 Lombardi, but id get laughed at and then thrown out for being a fool.

saying the pats only have 1...0 if you count deflate-gate...well that, that gets free drinks and good conversation going.

 

[ssbriefcase]

So Denver only has 1 Lombardi when not cheating and the 2 SBs they cheated the cap and lost a 3rd round draft were won by cheating.

Everyone forgets the Broncos cheated the salary cap for their 2 SBs with Elway and they paid a price.

Cap zap: Broncos pay with fine, pick

I'll raise your cap zap and give you this;
Truth behind the Broncos Salary Cap "Scandal"

 

[ssbriefcase]

also chop blocking

If it was illegal, they should've called it. Just like the pick play.

 

[Alsacs]

I'll raise your cap zap and give you this;
Truth behind the Broncos Salary Cap "Scandal"

LOL the article tags did the Broncos cheat? No but they did break the rules.

The Broncos cheated the salary cap. It is the truth and it is a fact. They lost a 3rd round pick from Paul Tagilabue who did nothing like Goodell has done.

Here is article from your own link
Broncos Penalized Again for Salary Cap Violations (washingtonpost.com)

If the Broncos were innocent they don't lose a 3rd round pick. They cheated the salary cap plain and simple. Cheaters.

 

[ssbriefcase]

LOL the article tags did the Broncos cheat? No but they did break the rules.

The Broncos cheated the salary cap. It is the truth and it is a fact. They lost a 3rd round pick from Paul Tagilabue who did nothing like Goodell has done.

Here is article from your own link
Broncos Penalized Again for Salary Cap Violations (washingtonpost.com)

If the Broncos were innocent they don't lose a 3rd round pick. They cheated the salary cap plain and simple. Cheaters.

Here we go, you always try to drag anyone you can grab on your way down, it's a really bad look. We gained no competitive advantage, deferred payments to Elway and Davis for the new stadium and paid them interest. Yep, they weren't walking a straight line, you got us. How long did it take you to come up with that? Also in the same article it says in no way is this like spygate and trying to deflate footballs. I realize that will never make sense to you. And love how you bitch for years about being labeled cheaters, but you dig and dig for any "cheating" on another team and are the first one who can't wait to call someone else a cheater. Sorry the pats are on their own level with that.

 

[Alsacs]

Here we go, you always try to drag anyone you can grab on your way down, it's a really bad look. We gained no competitive advantage, deferred payments to Elway and Davis for the new stadium and paid them interest. Yep, they weren't walking a straight line, you got us. How long did it take you to come up with that? Also in the same article it says in no way is this like spygate and trying to deflate footballs. I realize that will never make sense to you. And love how you bitch for years about being labeled cheaters, but you dig and dig for any "cheating" on another team and are the first one who can't wait to call someone else a cheater. Sorry the pats are on their own level with that.

Again if my team cheats they deserve to get criticism. I don't defend Spygate. Their was evidence and they were guilty. They paid their price. I defended Deflategate because it was a witchhunt and no evidence proved anything. That is where I defended the team.

The Broncos cheated plain and simple. Their 2 salary cap violations. They paid 26 million in deferred money to Davis and Elway they lost their 2002 3rd round draft pick and then again in 2004 lost another 3rd round draft pick.
Al Davis alleged the Broncos cheated the salary cap. He was proven right and they lost 2 3rd round draft picks and paid a fine. By Kaiser's cheating logic those SBs should be tainted.

I mean I am just linking actual penalties. Losing those draft picks means they cheated. Do I care about it? No, but my point is that other teams have cheated that is. I don't care if the Pats are on their on level. The Broncos cheated from 1996-1998 and paid their price.

 

[ssbriefcase]

Again if my team cheats they deserve to get criticism. I don't defend Spygate. Their was evidence and they were guilty. They paid their price. I defended Deflategate because it was a witchhunt and no evidence proved anything. That is where I defended the team.

The Broncos cheated plain and simple. Their 2 salary cap violations. They paid 26 million in deferred money to Davis and Elway they lost their 2002 3rd round draft pick and then again in 2004 lost another 3rd round draft pick.
Al Davis alleged the Broncos cheated the salary cap. He was proven right and they lost 2 3rd round draft picks and paid a fine. By Kaiser's cheating logic those SBs should be tainted.

I mean I am just linking actual penalties. Losing those draft picks means they cheated. Do I care about it? No, but my point is that other teams have cheated that is. I don't care if the Pats are on their on level. The Broncos cheated from 1996-1998 and paid their price.

Lol, of course Al Davis complained about the Broncos! To this day he still owes Shanahan like 3mil, literally. And I said the Pats were on their own level, not to be confused with the same level as the Broncos. It won't change one thing about how you feel about your team, and it dam sure won't change a thing on my end either. On to week 2...

 

[orange79]

G-men 416 - 413

 

[longislandcuse]

NFL Refs are seriously so bad. Tyler Boyd fumble isn't reversed? That was about as obvious a reversal as you'll ever see.