Sorry for askingI mean they're a losing team so I'd rather have ours.
Bell averages 24 minutes a game, so he's barely outside of the range you mentioned.Agree with you, but Taylor needs to be gone, and if Bell stays he needs to come off the bench and not be playing 20+ Minutes a game.
Now if in the off-season Bell works on playing defense, rebounding, and passing the ball. Then we have a different story.
You're forgiven.Sorry for asking
Win 5 days in a row. Fat chance.ACCT champions !
Before the portal and transfer era, yes, we’d have to be patient. But even then one really great recruiting class could flip the story overnight.lol. People need to stop looking backwards. JB struggled for several years at the tail end of a 47-year career that generally ranged from really good to outstanding. For a lifer like that, it typically gets a little ugly at the end. I mean, the only reason you have expectations is because of the guy you’re complaining about.
The bottom line is we struggled the past few years and now Red is trying to dig us out of it. Is he the guy to do it? Jury is out. If you love Red, that’s cool but there are questions to be answered. If you hate Red and felt it should have been a national search? Eh, maybe but, again, it was always staying in-house (so the point is moot) and while there are some legit concerns we’ve got to be a bit patient, regardless of who we hire.
It’s not that difficult to understand … yet everyone starts crying every time something doesn’t go according to plan.
How is that an overreaction?Overreaction after a loss time!
Absolutely. He’s not going to get five years of middling results. Couldn’t agree more.Before the portal and transfer era, yes, we’d have to be patient. But even then one really great recruiting class could flip the story overnight.
Red and staff need to show they can shake this roster up in a good way or he maybe on the hot seat in year 3.
This team is better than the last two teams JAB rolled out but it’s still not up to our expectations. I think it’s fair to say we bottomed out under JAB the last two tears and are at the very beginning of a rise back to Syracuse basketball standards. However, we’re probably a bit impatient because of the prolonged state of mediocrity we’ve been stuck in over the past decade.Maybe I’m just a minority opinion here, but do people really think we have been any good in last 10 years? Why is everyone like shocked still that this is kinda what this team is and has been? Have not amassed 23 wins since 2013. And have not won more than 20 games in 7 of those years. What is everyone honestly expecting?
And as far as Red is concerned, they haven’t gotten worse. They might not be a good team this year, but they certainly aren’t any worse than last 5 years
Except 2014 (28), 2015 (23) and 2017 (23). Maybe you mean regular season, not final record.Maybe I’m just a minority opinion here, but do people really think we have been any good in last 10 years? Why is everyone like shocked still that this is kinda what this team is and has been? Have not amassed 23 wins since 2013.
Yes was talking regular seasonExcept 2014 (28), 2015 (23) and 2017 (23). Maybe you mean regular season, not final record.
I get the point that the program has trended downward since the 2013 FF team with some pretty bad basketball.
It's deflating.
This was inevitable when we went south to the ACC.Masked by some tourney runs as double digit seeds. Been an argument on here for a while. Some people say the only thing that matters is the tournament, which I don’t agree with. Since the Ennis team fell apart at the end we’ve been on a steady decline. It started with recruiting misses and slowly snowballed into what we are now. A mere shell of a former great program. Every year for the past few seasons it’s been “well next year we should be better.” The program is kind of in a danger zone right now. I look at the parallels to the football program which was a powerhouse for 2 decades and then essentially became irrelevant for 2 decades.
Amazing thread. I’m excited to read it.
Spot on.What? The talent on this team is no better than our record. If that. Red has done fine with this group. Do I wish he would play different rotations? Yes. But Popovich would be doing no better with this group. We need better players and over the next couple of years, I think we will get them. If we don't, we will get another coach
Except it’s not. Anyone who has been following the NET and bracketology knows the ACC is getting no respect and we don’t have enough Q1 wins. Cuse yet again finds themselves in need of an ACC tourney upset to have a shotOverreaction after a loss time!
Everyone thought getting out of the zone and getting a new coach plus one more year of development from the freshman would turn this into a fringe top 25 team. I’m not saying it should’ve been necessarily, but the talent is there. Yes Jesse and Joe were huge losses in hindsight, but this team has been super immature all year and inconsistentMaybe I’m just a minority opinion here, but do people really think we have been any good in last 10 years? Why is everyone like shocked still that this is kinda what this team is and has been? Have not amassed 23 wins since 2013. And have not won more than 20 games in 7 of those years. What is everyone honestly expecting?
And as far as Red is concerned, they haven’t gotten worse. They might not be a good team this year, but they certainly aren’t any worse than last 5 years
Here’s the real problem, we’ve only had a couple of guys improve since last year (Q and Maliq). Judah is basically the same. Bell is basically the same. JT has regressed. Hima regressed. Carey is a project that isn’t there yet and may not ever get there. Then you add in all of the transfers, of which none has been a difference maker, and you end up with a team that hasn’t made a leap forward (yet).Everyone thought getting out of the zone and getting a new coach plus one more year of development from the freshman would turn this into a fringe top 25 team. I’m not saying it should’ve been necessarily, but the talent is there. Yes Jesse and Joe were huge losses in hindsight, but this team has been super immature all year and inconsistent
We have been a bubble team or out for every year except one since 2015 to the present. The 2019 Tyus Battle-Frank Howard was the only team solidly in, and they were an 8 seed. We lost to Baylor, Frank got suspended. That is 10 years of mediocrity. The Final 4 and Sweet 16 years have masked it.Except 2014 (28), 2015 (23) and 2017 (23). Maybe you mean regular season, not final record.
I get the point that the program has trended downward since the 2013 FF team with some pretty bad basketball.
It's deflating.
We can still have the NIT bubble talk. It is still a post season tournament. Winning NIT will revamp the program and good for next year.Any realistic shot at making the tourny went out the window tonite. This is the definition of an nit team.
One of the most insane things I’ve read in a game thread.
Maybe I’m just a minority opinion here, but do people really think we have been any good in last 10 years? Why is everyone like shocked still that this is kinda what this team is and has been? Have not amassed 23 wins since 2013. And have not won more than 20 games in 7 of those years. What is everyone honestly expecting?
And as far as Red is concerned, they haven’t gotten worse. They might not be a good team this year, but they certainly aren’t any worse than last 5 years
“Everyone?”Everyone thought getting out of the zone and getting a new coach plus one more year of development from the freshman would turn this into a fringe top 25 team. I’m not saying it should’ve been necessarily, but the talent is there. Yes Jesse and Joe were huge losses in hindsight, but this team has been super immature all year and inconsistent