Notre Dame vs The World

[rocklloyd]

But definitely a more attractive side chick.

Although, like all of them, she has her good days and bad days.

everyone is sick of someone.

 

[Willy75]

He mentioned also how ND has scheduled a Clemson series outside of the ACC arrangement, and thinks they should do the same with Miami and Florida State.

And those would or would not count against the five ACC games they’ve agreed to? Seems the league as a whole would/should have a say there.

 

[longtimefan]

And those would or would not count against the five ACC games they’ve agreed to? Seems the league as a whole would/should have a say there.

It's not clear how closely Clemson worked with the ACC in setting up their 12-game home-and-home with ND. Maybe the two schools totally left the league out of the loop when making this scheduling arrangement.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Cliff notes?

IMO Notre Dame will try to keep whatever is left of the ACC together for as long as possible. I think they rather do business with Pitt, SU, BC, Stanford, Cal, SMU, Wake, and whatever else is left. That is still the best fit if ND wants to stay a FB Indy.

Cliff notes of this The Athletic article:

"Where Notre Dame's ACC, ESPN and opt-out angst stands one week after CFP selection day"

Where Notre Dame’s ACC, ESPN and opt-out angst stands one week after CFP selection day

Irish fans have questions about how Notre Dame got here and how they can avoid a replay of this brutal end to a season.

www.nytimes.com

The Lead: "You're not over it. And that's totally fine."

ND Mailbag

#1 How is it appropriate for the head of the committee to direct members to re-watch the ND-Miami game?

Response: the final spot came down to ND & Miami. Miami won that game. The problem was stringing ND out for 5 weeks only to flip-flop the 2 teams in the final rankings. It was ridiculous and cruel. Not that it was wrong. But ND deserved to know earlier. If they had, they'd "probably be playing in a bowl game."

#2 What's the future for ND and the ACC?

Response: ND and the ACC no longer feels like a good marriage. It isn't all bad. ND benefits from the inventory of games. But access to minor bowl bids no longer is a sweetener. The ACC hasn't figured out how to have more ND games the top ACC teams. The ACC and ND were growing apart before this. It's hard to see them sticking together in the long run. It feels like there will be a divorce. The question is when and how much does it cost.

#3 How much influence did ESPN have on the decision to leave ND out?

Response: No way to know. But ESPN would have benefitted by having ND in the CFP.

#4 Who decided that ND wouldn't play in a bowl game? Did the players vote?

Response: There was no player vote. The captains were consulted and the position coaches consulted their players. Some said no. Some said yes. And some said we're for whatever the whole team wants. In the end the decision was made by Marcus Freeman. But note the AD said: "the team didn't want to put out a product that didn't respresent the program". Given all of the opt outs that would have happened it would have been "a knock-off of Notre Dame football". [In other words, they didn't want to get beat by BYU.]

 

[HtownOrange]

Cliff notes of this The Athletic article:

"Where Notre Dame's ACC, ESPN and opt-out angst stands one week after CFP selection day"

Where Notre Dame’s ACC, ESPN and opt-out angst stands one week after CFP selection day

Irish fans have questions about how Notre Dame got here and how they can avoid a replay of this brutal end to a season.

www.nytimes.com

The Lead: "You're not over it. And that's totally fine."

ND Mailbag

#1 How is it appropriate for the head of the committee to direct members to re-watch the ND-Miami game?

Response: the final spot came down to ND & Miami. Miami won that game. The problem was stringing ND out for 5 weeks only to flip-flop the 2 teams in the final rankings. It was ridiculous and cruel. Not that it was wrong. But ND deserved to know earlier. If they had, they'd "probably be playing in a bowl game."

#2 What's the future for ND and the ACC?

Response: ND and the ACC no longer feels like a good marriage. It isn't all bad. ND benefits from the inventory of games. But access to minor bowl bids no longer is a sweetener. The ACC hasn't figured out how to have more ND games the top ACC teams. The ACC and ND were growing apart before this. It's hard to see them sticking together in the long run. It feels like there will be a divorce. The question is when and how much does it cost.

#3 How much influence did ESPN have on the decision to leave ND out?

Response: No way to know. But ESPN would have benefitted by having ND in the CFP.

#4 Who decided that ND wouldn't play in a bowl game? Did the players vote?

Response: There was no player vote. The captains were consulted and the position coaches consulted their players. Some said no. Some said yes. And some said we're for whatever the whole team wants. In the end the decision was made by Marcus Freeman. But note the AD said: "the team didn't want to put out a product that didn't respresent the program". Given all of the opt outs that would have happened it would have been "a knock-off of Notre Dame football". [In other words, they didn't want to get beat by BYU.]

Thanks, pretty much what this site said.

ND can do what it wants, everyone knows this. ND is likely to hold out until the end of the present agreement or close to it. Contractually, they cannot join football to a new conference because they agreed to limit their conference option to the ACC during this contract. If that is ND's end game, so be it. If ND is merely letting off steam, so be it. It is unlikely that a move of the Olympic sports to another conference is worth the costs. Unless they have an offer they cannot refuse, they likely stay with the ACC a few more years. Besides, if ND is really flirting with the B1G or SEC, the ACC is likely to screw around with the scheduling, why should the ACC treat ND any different than ND treats the ACC?

 

[Chip]

And those would or would not count against the five ACC games they’ve agreed to? Seems the league as a whole would/should have a say there.

I gathered from another article I read that they used a few of the existing ACC matchups and then filled in the gaps to make it a 12 game series.