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Class of 2015 OLB Shyheim (Shy) Cullen (MA) Signed LOI

It won't let me upload the wound warrior cleats they are to big of a file and I'm not smart enough to resize. But if you google them you can see them. So I guess the swag is important to me and my kids ... Probably more me. But uniforms aren't a make or break here
 
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That's a good question and thank you for thinking we are on top of this. Truth is I m pretty clueless and just learning as we go. We have discussed the big names and shy doesn't want to go to the factories. We have met a lot of kids through this and very chance I get I pick their brains. I see who they have talked to what they thought of it. The biggest thing that has rung thru is the kids that have a brain all say they don't care about me as a person just as a player. They won't help me get my degree they will just put me in easy classes to stay eligible. Shy doesn't want any part of it. From a football stand point the big schools don't get you any closer to the nfl than syracuse or bc but they put you further away from your degree... At least for a kid that may need some help the ultra smart book worms will be fine where ever. Shy has 3 schools on a list Syracuse Miami and BC . But bc cooled way off after shys last report card and shy looks at it as they don't believe in him. It had really slid them way down from where he was a couple months ago. Miami these week end was quite the trip great campus decent school they say all the right things about acedamics and haven't really heard anything bad in that front. The coaches were all very nice and lived shy. The big problem aside from they haven't offered is their defense isn't really set up for shy. I'm sure shy could work and fit any scheme but I think the coaches feel they have other fish they want to land before making a project of shy. As far as post commit offers shy and I have talked extensively about it. His word is his word. Syracuse has put faith in him to offer and he won't change once he commits ( aside from what I have always said... If coaches leave or get fired ... Ncaa sanctions etc real reasons ) not just well so and so looks better. Shy has very little use for these kids that use a commit to draw attention. He even told one kid that told him he wAs doing it to get a better offer that he wouldn't want to play with a kid who would do that. So when you see the BOOM SHY committed ... To who ever it is... You won't need to worry till signing day with this kid

That's huge to be aware of. One of my HS classmates went to Va Tech of a wrestling scholie. Got injured and had to redshirt a year, left after 5 years on campus with only 3 years worth of a degree. He wasn't a dumb guy either but stated they kept his schedule so full with athletics that there was no extra time to get more credits than were required for eligibility.
 
Yeah I met a kid that told us he was from down the road from chapel hill and they were recruiting him big time...he has since committed to BC. He said they pretty much told him what classes they would like to see him take to keep his schedule open for football. He said there was no way he could achieve his degree he wanted with the schedule they were talking about in 4 years.
 
Yeah I met a kid that told us he was from down the road from chapel hill and they were recruiting him big time...he has since committed to BC. He said they pretty much told him what classes they would like to see him take to keep his schedule open for football. He said there was no way he could achieve his degree he wanted with the schedule they were talking about in 4 years.

I'm surprised since they had half the athletes cheating anyway, I didn't realize cheating would take up so much time ... who knew? :)
 
Well that was the problem you can't have a player focusing on studies when they need them on football. Can't have all that self centered learning going on when they need them in classes taught from Europe and working hard on their paper about rosa parks
 
Ok lot to work with here...First I will try and space the posts I am terrible at typing and scraped thru school but will do what I can...all bets are off from the phone though. My iphone zooms in so I can only see like 10 words at a time and I am usually impressed it is readable at all.

To be honest there have been very few kids that have mentioned a family atmosphere... mostly they talk about the other players as being a family staff doesnt really enter into it. I will say watch the staff interact with the Miami players (during the camp the football team was there and at lunch were doing 7 on 7s) the kids seemed to be laughing and hanging out with the position coaches but who knows could be just a show for the camp. BC was very impressive in their insistence that you graduate with a degree... I havent seen it at any other schools (though it may exist) but we had to meet with the athletes learning resource center during our visit. The lady we spoke with us explained what they do. She said the meet with all the freshman and help set up classes so they are not overwhelmed during the season. She said after that its what the individual needs. She said some kids come once a quarter to do class schedule. Some come once a month to check in. Some will come weekly to use the computer lab and library. Some kids come every day to meet with tutors...then she blew me away... she said in some cases they will assign a person to go with the student to every class and do every assignment...she said they wont do the work but they will make sure the student understands what they are doing. That was pretty cool to know for a kid like shy that might need help.

Shys attitude to school changed a lot when the doctor told him its not a bad attitude Shy suffers from but that the early stuff Shy went thru has caused the problems he has now. He went from hating school and wanting to play at a place like UNC to just play ball and cruise thru school...to wanting a back up plan if the NFL doesnt happen. His IEP will follow thru college. BC was huge on pushing for his IEP. They said what ever is in place when he graduates will follow him all the way thru. He gets 50 percent more time to complete tests and that seems to be working next year when we meet in Sept we will see if he needs more. The recruiters seem to know very little about the academic stuff and point you to other people at the school to talk to. When he commits we will begin that. He has a college adviser in the high school who takes care of the communication from high school to college... they are working on his no time restriction SAT ACT now...which he takes the SAT saturday and the ACT next Saturday.

Top 3 we call the only three. Miami was a growing up thing Shy likes the loud hard hitting style that Miami used to be know for. He always used to say he was going to play there..then he grew up and has started looking at schools differently. I think if they offered in the next couple weeks Shy might have to do some sole searching as to what he wants.

Syracuse was a relationship thing. The coaches believed in Shy. Thats huge to Shy. He believes he can be the next great player and his work ethic will get him there. But if someone doesnt give you the tools to get there it doesnt matter. The coaches call him and visit the school alot and Shy has formed a bond with the coach. Now I have tried to explain that any one recruiting him will give him that same feeling (the coaches really pump these kids up) But its all the stuff we have read and heard since the initial contact that has reinforced that this is a great place to be...not to mention proximity and moms approval.

BC was kind of a surprise. Its a local school so it has the closeness thing and you have the local espn hype when the recruiters get out to the schools so the kids like that. The visit went well and the film time where the coach kept saying we want you to come here and do exactly what KPL is doing...you are built to replace KPL... helped the case. Shy believes he is a great blitzer believes his sacks are what will get him to the next level. He has and unbelievable sense of when the ball is going to be snapped. He faced all kinds of snap counts this year and only had 3 offsides which considering how he gets across the line is unbelievable. the other teams do everything to get him to jump but cant.. as a matter of fact 1 of his offside last year wasnt a missed timing it was he went to fake and slid into the neutral zone. BC wants to blitz 60 percent of the time.. thats built for Shy. plus the academics and the help the offer on the academics helped their case. But as I have said their recruitment has cooled so Shy is feeling like they have lost faith.

Uniforms arent a huge factor but no one wants to wear ugly stuff. To be honest my kids wear under armour and it kills me that Syracuse and Miami are nike. BC has under armour. Shys coaches ask all the time if he has an under armour contract . I spent 650 dollars last season on the cleats my two kids wore..it was a charity auction for the BC under armour Wounded Warrior Project uniforms with the american flag cleats. those could be the greatest cleats ever made. Shy destroyed his during the season but Ryan will wear his to BC camp. This year Shy is wearing his Superman highlights and for grass games has his Northwestern wounded game flag cleats... if I can figure it out I will post some pictures of Shys equipment..I have spent a fortune.The new uniforms are ok id give the edge to the new Miami ones...the chrome helmet look goes along way.

First off the spacing worked wonders on this. Love it.

Very cool to hear about how Shy's top schools came to be. It's very different with each prospect, so it's very cool to see the stories.

Its also great to see Shy's IEP will move with him to college. Frankly what BC does is pretty amazing, its gotta be an extreme rarity across the country. Good for them. I'll be curious to see if SU does something even in the same stratosphere as BC. Best of luck to Shy on his SAT and ACT.

I am aware of your UA obsession, but as long as you are willing to allow Shy to wear Nike, all is well.

So let me ask you this, what type of things would prevent Shy from joining the Orange after his visit (other than a terrible visit of course)? You mention some soul searching if Miami makes an offer before the SU visit. What if BC turns up the heat in the next couple of weeks? Could they get back involved? Is there something you havent yet learned about SU that could put a damper on the Cuse excitement in your household?

Obviously this is only hypotheticals, and any number of things can happen, but I'd be curious to see what things are still out there that could hold Shy back late this month.
 
Well I guess we would have to see... I'm not really seeing anything that could dampen how Shy is feeling about SU. He has seen a bunch of colleges and unless somthing went horribly wrong or the coaches just did a total 180 I think he would be all set.


As far as the schools getting back in I'm not sure that's up to Shy he has expressed to me he feels like the deserted him and don't feel like he can get the grades. He feels like they stopped believing in him. I'd say it would take some fast talking to overcome that.


Shy and I are really the only ones excited about this at the moment . His mom always just felt like it would happen. She has no idea how much time I put into emailing coaches calling the ncaa calling shys school. She hates when we go to camps. Every year as soon as the patriots are out of the playoffs she say good no football till august. This year it has been non stop football all year so she is pretty aggravated. She probably wouldn't even go to visit Syracuse with us except I told her this is 98 percent where shy will be. So she wants to see the campus and meet the coaches. I haven't told her yet we have to sit thru a camp lol... I hope syracuse has a good 911 system she may try and kill me.
 
Well I guess we would have to see... I'm not really seeing anything that could dampen how Shy is feeling about SU. He has seen a bunch of colleges and unless somthing went horribly wrong or the coaches just did a total 180 I think he would be all set.


As far as the schools getting back in I'm not sure that's up to Shy he has expressed to me he feels like the deserted him and don't feel like he can get the grades. He feels like they stopped believing in him. I'd say it would take some fast talking to overcome that.


Shy and I are really the only ones excited about this at the moment . His mom always just felt like it would happen. She has no idea how much time I put into emailing coaches calling the ncaa calling shys school. She hates when we go to camps. Every year as soon as the patriots are out of the playoffs she say good no football till august. This year it has been non stop football all year so she is pretty aggravated. She probably wouldn't even go to visit Syracuse with us except I told her this is 98 percent where shy will be. So she wants to see the campus and meet the coaches. I haven't told her yet we have to sit thru a camp lol... I hope syracuse has a good 911 system she may try and kill me.

Don't worry, Cuse has those emergency lights throughout campus, if she pulls a knife, just hit the button and run like the wind...

All good to see mom is starting to come around, and is coming with you guys for the final touches on the visit.

6/28 right?
 
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Well I guess we would have to see... I'm not really seeing anything that could dampen how Shy is feeling about SU. He has seen a bunch of colleges and unless somthing went horribly wrong or the coaches just did a total 180 I think he would be all set. As far as the schools getting back in I'm not sure that's up to Shy he has expressed to me he feels like the deserted him and don't feel like he can get the grades. He feels like they stopped believing in him. I'd say it would take some fast talking to overcome that. Shy and I are really the only ones excited about this at the moment . His mom always just felt like it would happen. She has no idea how much time I put into emailing coaches calling the ncaa calling shys school. She hates when we go to camps. Every year as soon as the patriots are out of the playoffs she say good no football till august. This year it has been non stop football all year so she is pretty aggravated. She probably wouldn't even go to visit Syracuse with us except I told her this is 98 percent where shy will be. So she wants to see the campus and meet the coaches. I haven't told her yet we have to sit thru a camp lol... I hope syracuse has a good 911 system she may try and kill me.

Lots to do around town, may make it easier: huge mall, armory square, Dino BBQ, etc
 
Bam, I don't know if athletes get handled differently than the general student population at SU, but the Office of Disability Services is really good, for physical and learning disabilities:

http://www.syr.edu/accessiblesu/

A family member of mine that attends SU has a hearing problem and they've been great with him.
 
Bam, I don't know if athletes get handled differently than the general student population at SU, but the Office of Disability Services is really good, for physical and learning disabilities:

http://www. /accessiblesu/

A family member of mine that attends SU has a hearing problem and they've been great with him.
Excellent thank you we will be sure and contact them
 
Ok now I have a question for all of you. This is our first go around with this process I'm assuming some of you have been riding the highs and lows of this process a few times any way. Shy and I are wondering where are we in this process. When we were at sparq a recruitment assistance company was asking me if shy had any offers when I told him yes he said "Oh if you have one this early you are all set" then when we meet with some coaches they say " only one offer? You guys should grab it now before you lose it" some kids are told this is early for offers some are told all serious offers are out before the quiet period. It doesn't really matter to shy he has the Attention of the only places that matter. But there is 2 kids in shys team that are really good players and have had any offers yet so I am more own drug for them.


And don't worry Shys commitment timing won't change due to answers... Just curios
 
Ok now I have a question for all of you. This is our first go around with this process I'm assuming some of you have been riding the highs and lows of this process a few times any way. Shy and I are wondering where are we in this process. When we were at sparq a recruitment assistance company was asking me if shy had any offers when I told him yes he said "Oh if you have one this early you are all set" then when we meet with some coaches they say " only one offer? You guys should grab it now before you lose it" some kids are told this is early for offers some are told all serious offers are out before the quiet period. It doesn't really matter to shy he has the Attention of the only places that matter. But there is 2 kids in shys team that are really good players and have had any offers yet so I am more own drug for them.


And don't worry Shys commitment timing won't change due to answers... Just curios

First off, shy's commitment timing should be based on when he's ready not for other reasons. Sounds like thats covered.

Second, I would say the different coaches you are talking to are all about different "talent" in players. Guys who are used to kids with several offers, would say to you take the offer and secure a spot. Guys who deal with kids with few offers realize an offer this early in the process is likely not going anywhere any time soon, so you can take your time and explore the process.

I'm still new at this, but I would say that there are generally 4 rounds of offers made.

Round 1, the teams identify their guys that they really love early in the process and offers are made before the start of the summer camp session. For lack of a better way to say it, these are the guys who blossom early and are the most wanted by a school.

Round 2, during camp/directly following camp season - This is the group of kids schools either didn't know about, or needed further information on to determine they wanted them (how big are they really? how fast are they? are they coachable? did that make big steps since the end of seasons?) These kids can easily vault into the most wanted category.

Round 3 , first few weeks of the senior season - these are the kids the school didn't know existed, or were kids sitting behind somebody else in the past and are now making a name for themselves. Also this is probably the time staffs start to develop "backup lists" for the players that they like, but do not love. Some offers are starting to be made to those kids as the "elite" kids start committing elsewhere.

Round 4, last dash - Recruiting cycle is almost over, you need a few additional bodies and this is usually where the "undiscovered" talent and sleeper prospects get offers, as teams try to make sure they fill their class and they probably put out a considerable amount of conditional offers at this point to cover their bases.

I would also say sometime between rounds 3 and 4 offers start going out to the kids with academic issues that have a shot at qualifying.

Obviously their is wiggle room all throughout this process, but I assume this is mostly on point.

Like I said, I am still new to this, and would like others to weigh in.
 
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It's tough to paint with a broad brush because not all schools recruit the same and not all offers are created equal. My thought process has always been if you have the offer that you truly want then why would you wait? Likewise, if you're still seriously considering multiple schools why commit? If I was to commit then later decommit I wouldn't really have grounds to be upset if a school pulls my offer later. With Syracuse if they offer and you commit the coaches have made a commitment, with SEC schools and football factoriesthat over recruit you would always have to be a bit weary because the 25/year rule doesn't phase them and they end up pulling offers late or even from past classes that have been on campus to make room for a recruit they deem as higher caliber. Canes did that when Seantrel Hendorson committed late the other year and Tennessee/Mississippi/Miss State seem to take 30 every class
 
Cuse is rollllllingggg. I'm loving this off season.
 
I would like to what levels of offers there are. A contingent offer? A non-committable offer? A flat out offer?

First off, shy's commitment timing should be based on when he's ready not for other reasons. Sounds like thats covered.

Second, I would say the different coaches you are talking to are all about different "talent" in players. Guys who are used to kids with several offers, would say to you take the offer and secure a spot. Guys who deal with kids with few offers realize an offer this early in the process is likely not going anywhere any time soon, so you can take your time and explore the process.

I'm still new at this, but I would say that there are generally 4 rounds of offers made.

Round 1, the teams identify their guys that they really love early in the process and offers are made before the start of the summer camp session. For lack of a better way to say it, these are the guys who blossom early and are the most wanted by a school.

Round 2, during camp/directly following camp season - This is the group of kids schools either didn't know about, or needed further information on to determine they wanted them (how big are they really? how fast are they? are they coachable? did that make big steps since the end of seasons?) These kids can easily vault into the most wanted category.

Round 3 , first few weeks of the senior season - these are the kids the school didn't know existed, or were kids sitting behind somebody else in the past and are now making a name for themselves. Also this is probably the time staffs start to develop "backup lists" for the players that they like, but do not love. Some offers are starting to be made to those kids as the "elite" kids start committing elsewhere.

Round 4, last dash - Recruiting cycle is almost over, you need a few additional bodies and this is usually where the "undiscovered" talent and sleeper prospects get offers, as teams try to make sure they fill their class and they probably put out a considerable amount of conditional offers at this point to cover their bases.

I would also say sometime between rounds 3 and 4 offers start going out to the kids with academic issues that have a shot at qualifying.

Obviously their is wiggle room all throughout this process, but I assume this is mostly on point.

Like I said, I am still new to this, and would like others to weigh in.
 
Bam,

I've seen you being more vocal in other recruits threads lately (or maybe i'm just paying more attention now) but how much does the talent of the other recruits a school is bringing in affect Shy's choice?

I'd also be curious if Shy would become a "recruiter" for whatever school he joins up with. Last year we had some kids who went over the top to help the staff with our recruiting efforts. Zaire Franklin (LB) and A.J. Long (QB) were undoubtedly huge assets in rounding out our class. So far despite a whole crapload more early commits, we don't seem to have that kid thats going to go and take it upon himself to bond the team together and help further the staffs efforts.

Not that anyone would be dissapointed if Shy wouldn't be that guy, but from all your stories of him, it wouldn't surprise me if did do that.
 
Bam,

I've seen you being more vocal in other recruits threads lately (or maybe i'm just paying more attention now) but how much does the talent of the other recruits a school is bringing in affect Shy's choice?

I'd also be curious if Shy would become a "recruiter" for whatever school he joins up with. Last year we had some kids who went over the top to help the staff with our recruiting efforts. Zaire Franklin (LB) and A.J. Long (QB) were undoubtedly huge assets in rounding out our class. So far despite a whole crapload more early commits, we don't seem to have that kid thats going to go and take it upon himself to bond the team together and help further the staffs efforts.

Not that anyone would be disappointed if Shy wouldn't be that guy, but from all your stories of him, it wouldn't surprise me if did do that.[/quote

I think everybody wants to play for a good team so the recruits coming in make a difference in school choice.

I think given the chance Shy would help convince recruits to join Syracuse. Shy has been huge the last two years recruiting players to the high school team. After his sophmore year they lost their whole line to senior year turn over. Shy convinced a bunch of kids who had never played before to join the team. Also the team was left with a sub par quarterback group that year. When the team heard a kid at a local private school who was a pretty good qb was unhappy with his team situation...Shy Nick and Thunder went and met with the kid and convinced him to come play at the high school for them. It worked out pretty well for the kid he just got a baseball scholarship playing for Lowell high when he wasnt even on the radar for baseball at his previous school.

Shy and Nick are true leaders of this team. they should have been captains last year as the seniors that were put in place didnt do half what those boys did to motivate and get the team ready. Unfortunately the coaches believe only seniors should be captains... I see their point just think the true leaders should be the captains.

Shy and I actually had a conversation yesterday about how strange it would be to go to a school where there seems to be groups of kids that know each other coming in...the florida crew seems like they know each other...and the recent Jersey signing seems there maybe a group of friends coming together. I asked Shy if it would bother him to be the odd man out...he didnt seem to concerned and said it doesnt matter where I go unless by some miracle Nick and I get recruited and end up in the same school anywhere I go it will be like that.

I will also tell you over the weekend Shy spoke with a lot of college coaches, his high school coach and position coach. We had a long conversation and Shy will not be able to commit at the visit coming up. It s not fair to Shy or anyone else at this point. I will say Syracuse is still Shy's Number 1 choice and he will probably end up there in the end but it wont be this month. We are still looking forward to our visit and camp in a couple weeks. As I have told you all before we are new to this process and trying to figure out everything. I think we got a little ahead of ourselves and need to slow down and make sure this is going to be the right thing for all involved.
 
I know this much - Shafer is on record with many recruits telling them to hold off on committing until they are sure and the whole family is on board.

We'd be jerks to not follow his lead! It's a big choice and it should be weighed carefully. We've learned a lot about him during this process and will root for him no matter where he ends up.

Hopefully Orange ;).
 
Not sure how I did that but it seemed to have attached weird

I think everybody wants to play for a good team so the recruits coming in make a difference in school choice.

I think given the chance Shy would help convince recruits to join Syracuse. Shy has been huge the last two years recruiting players to the high school team. After his sophmore year they lost their whole line to senior year turn over. Shy convinced a bunch of kids who had never played before to join the team. Also the team was left with a sub par quarterback group that year. When the team heard a kid at a local private school who was a pretty good qb was unhappy with his team situation...Shy Nick and Thunder went and met with the kid and convinced him to come play at the high school for them. It worked out pretty well for the kid he just got a baseball scholarship playing for Lowell high when he wasnt even on the radar for baseball at his previous school.

Shy and Nick are true leaders of this team. they should have been captains last year as the seniors that were put in place didnt do half what those boys did to motivate and get the team ready. Unfortunately the coaches believe only seniors should be captains... I see their point just think the true leaders should be the captains.

Shy and I actually had a conversation yesterday about how strange it would be to go to a school where there seems to be groups of kids that know each other coming in...the florida crew seems like they know each other...and the recent Jersey signing seems there maybe a group of friends coming together. I asked Shy if it would bother him to be the odd man out...he didnt seem to concerned and said it doesnt matter where I go unless by some miracle Nick and I get recruited and end up in the same school anywhere I go it will be like that.

I will also tell you over the weekend Shy spoke with a lot of college coaches, his high school coach and position coach. We had a long conversation and Shy will not be able to commit at the visit coming up. It s not fair to Shy or anyone else at this point. I will say Syracuse is still Shy's Number 1 choice and he will probably end up there in the end but it wont be this month. We are still looking forward to our visit and camp in a couple weeks. As I have told you all before we are new to this process and trying to figure out everything. I think we got a little ahead of ourselves and need to slow down and make sure this is going to be the right thing for all involved.
 
Not sure how I did that but it seemed to have attached weird

I think everybody wants to play for a good team so the recruits coming in make a difference in school choice.

I think given the chance Shy would help convince recruits to join Syracuse. Shy has been huge the last two years recruiting players to the high school team. After his sophmore year they lost their whole line to senior year turn over. Shy convinced a bunch of kids who had never played before to join the team. Also the team was left with a sub par quarterback group that year. When the team heard a kid at a local private school who was a pretty good qb was unhappy with his team situation...Shy Nick and Thunder went and met with the kid and convinced him to come play at the high school for them. It worked out pretty well for the kid he just got a baseball scholarship playing for Lowell high when he wasnt even on the radar for baseball at his previous school.

Shy and Nick are true leaders of this team. they should have been captains last year as the seniors that were put in place didnt do half what those boys did to motivate and get the team ready. Unfortunately the coaches believe only seniors should be captains... I see their point just think the true leaders should be the captains.

Shy and I actually had a conversation yesterday about how strange it would be to go to a school where there seems to be groups of kids that know each other coming in...the florida crew seems like they know each other...and the recent Jersey signing seems there maybe a group of friends coming together. I asked Shy if it would bother him to be the odd man out...he didnt seem to concerned and said it doesnt matter where I go unless by some miracle Nick and I get recruited and end up in the same school anywhere I go it will be like that.

I will also tell you over the weekend Shy spoke with a lot of college coaches, his high school coach and position coach. We had a long conversation and Shy will not be able to commit at the visit coming up. It s not fair to Shy or anyone else at this point. I will say Syracuse is still Shy's Number 1 choice and he will probably end up there in the end but it wont be this month. We are still looking forward to our visit and camp in a couple weeks. As I have told you all before we are new to this process and trying to figure out everything. I think we got a little ahead of ourselves and need to slow down and make sure this is going to be the right thing for all involved.

While we all want Shy in Orange, and sooner than later, we get that everyone needs to be certain, with no doubts. Especially with your personal policy of once you commit you stand by your word.

You gotta be sure, and if that means holding off for a bit, that's understandable. Sounds like your boy has a heck of a head on his shoulders, and already has developed some serious leadership traits. We can only hope he goes Orange in the end.
 

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