if we're not offering or accepting a commitment then he either didn't blow the staff away or we're simply in a good spot with some other kids. nice to maybe recruiting from a position of strength for a change.
Agreed, and let's be honest, we wouldn't be hearing about this at all if not for the Rutgers ultimatum to the kid. He wanted to get in on Syracuse before Rutgers pulled their offer, but we weren't ready to take him (we've got some other LBs we have rated higher right now...he's pretty clearly a plan B option, which sucks for him but again, it's Rutgers putting him in this position).if we're not offering or accepting a commitment then he either didn't blow the staff away or we're simply in a good spot with some other kids. nice to maybe recruiting from a position of strength for a change.
But, but, he's 3 STARS. I don't need to know anything else about him, he is 3 STARS. And we have taken a couple prospects already who are TWO STARS. What the hell are we thinking?We have some pretty good options ahead of him on our board. We'll see how it plays out.
Heck, Scoop Bradshaw is unrated by some services, and I think he's going to wind up being one of the best players in this class.But, but, he's 3 STARS. I don't need to know anything else about him, he is 3 STARS. And we have taken a couple prospects already who are TWO STARS. What the hell are we thinking?
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Periodic outburst at lazy headline writers who can't help themselves, gotta refer to everyone as "N STAR prospect yadayada". Heck, if a headline refers to someone as "2 STAR PROSPECT" I might as well not even read it!
I trust the staff. They can find talent, have good contacts feeding them leads, and are playing a delicate game with expectations of who we can reasonably get versus shooting for the stars. Is it my imagination or has the profile of our visitors taken a big jump up this recruiting cycle?Heck, Scoop Bradshaw is unrated by some services, and I think he's going to wind up being one of the best players in this class.
javadoc said:But, but, he's 3 STARS. I don't need to know anything else about him, he is 3 STARS. And we have taken a couple prospects already who are TWO STARS. What the hell are we thinking? [/rant off] Periodic outburst at lazy headline writers who can't help themselves, gotta refer to everyone as "N STAR prospect yadayada". Heck, if a headline refers to someone as "2 STAR PROSPECT" I might as well not even read it!
So do I, but I also think this is one of the few positions where we have enough good young talents that we can afford to be a little picky and play a little more dangerously by holding out for those top kids.I sure hope that SU pulls in the recruits they had rated higher than him.
True. We have a plethora of young, talented LBs. I hate to not take a talented kid, but would be much more upset if it was a lineman, or a DB.So do I, but I also think this is one of the few positions where we have enough good young talents that we can afford to be a little picky and play a little more dangerously by holding out for those top kids.
Not really. Our coaching staff wasn't 100% convinced, so they weren't ready to take his commitment, especially since he's not at the top of their board and the guys who ARE at the top of the board are still strongly considering pledging to SU. So do you take his commit, because it's there, and risk losing out on one of your top guys? Or do you tell him you aren't ready to take him yet?Seems like there is a piece or two of info we are missing with this one.
Not really. Our coaching staff wasn't 100% convinced, so they weren't ready to take his commitment, especially since he's not at the top of their board and the guys who ARE at the top of the board are still strongly considering pledging to SU. So do you take his commit, because it's there, and risk losing out on one of your top guys? Or do you tell him you aren't ready to take him yet?
Seems pretty clear to me.
jekelish said:Not really. Our coaching staff wasn't 100% convinced, so they weren't ready to take his commitment, especially since he's not at the top of their board and the guys who ARE at the top of the board are still strongly considering pledging to SU. So do you take his commit, because it's there, and risk losing out on one of your top guys? Or do you tell him you aren't ready to take him yet? Seems pretty clear to me.
I'll put it another way: you don't take a Plan B just because he wants to commit when all of your Plan A's are still available and interested.
I did feel the need to write about this non-committable vs committable offer trend, though, which is older than people probably realize but no less unfortunate: http://.com/the-murky-waters-of-committable-offers/