OT: Penn State to get scholarships back

[javadoc]

One of those situations that makes me so mad I start fidgeting because I want to do something. Could say any number of things in complete honesty, which would probably get me banned.

 

[javadoc]

Incredible.
A few players who walked and a few scholarships for a couple of years ... for the biggest institutional sports coverup.
Not even a slap on the wrist.

It may be time for the NCAA to impose the death penalty on itself.

The sad thing is that the NCAA is probably the only body that would have done anything. A "breakaway" league of the football bigs wouldn't have done a goddamn thing. "It's not a sports issue."

Really see what is on the inside for a lot of people on this one. It's not pretty.

 

[Madbiker]

Emmert has to go immediately. He's just a disaster in so many ways. That the NCAA can't see that is disgraceful.

 

[oldpinepoint]

And Mr. Williams, and Mr. Franklin.

I don't think it helps them in this years class, it starts next year correct?


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[djcon57]

How nice that those student athletes will have a chance to earn a scholarship to such a fine, upstanding institution of higher learning and social responsibility.

So, as they say, what have we learned?

1) If there's a dire criminal situation going on at your institution, covering it up is the best way to go.
2) Non University Employees (boosters) paying players worse than the top University officials covering up P e d o p h I l I a
3) This is just my opinion...but I hope all sports teams at Syracuse are "cheating" because I don't give a ish what the NCAA rules are. As long as no actual laws are being broken, I don't care. The NCAA has no credibility, I don't recognize their rules/laws as legit.

 

[Consigliere]

Wow. So when do they restore the wins, canonize JoPa and reverse the bowl ban? I was very disappointed to see the trip to Ireland in 2014. So you can't go to a bowl game in Birmingham, AL in December but you can represent NCAA football with an all expenses paid trip to Dublin. Kind of offsets the bowl penalty disappointment, doesn't it? This is just wrong.

 

[Legendof44]

FREAKING PATHETIC. So an organization that is supposed to uphold integrity and an overall judgement on ACADEMIC Institutions..is now telling people its ok to cover up constant child rape as long as you field a good football team. I hate this world sometimes.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Apparently college football is more important than institutional conduct that perpetuates child abuse.

I wish I could have "liked" that a thousand times because that's exactly what this is. By the way that's the first thing I have ever "liked," ever.

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[Capt. Tuttle]

FREAKING PATHETIC. So an organization that is supposed to uphold integrity and an overall judgement on ACADEMIC Institutions..is now telling people its ok to cover up constant child rape as long as you ARE PROTECTING avgood football team. I hate this world sometimes.

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[Legendof44]

you didnt like mash?

 

[Legendof44]

Pete Thamel ‏@SIPeteThamel 1m
The Penn State punishment had been the signature moment of Emmert's tenure. This shows how unpopular and over-the-top that punishment was.

wow...i used to respect Thamel.. no longer can i make that statement.

 

[BlackKnight76]

The NCAA is so ridiculous. They get heat because they make everything up as they go along, so...they make more stuff up as they go along.

 

[SU2NASA]

Immediately got a link sent to me by a friend who went to Penn State. In their minds this rationalizes how they were the victim and that Paterno and the football program did nothing wrong.

It's sickening.

 

[Legendof44]

Its going to be a non-stop victim-fest at Happy Valley...but not for the boys being raped for 20 years being robbed of their normal lives...for their poor fanbase that was robbed of a few scholarship players.

 

[Legendof44]

Immediately got a link sent to me by a friend who went to Penn State. In their minds this rationalizes how they were the victim and that Paterno and the football program did nothing wrong.

It's sickening.

I can honestly say that i wouldnt be able to call that person a friend any longer if those are the views they shared. What has happened to humanity?

 

[SU2NASA]

I can honestly say that i wouldnt be able to call that person a friend any longer if those are the views they shared. What has happened to humanity?

My response: "I guess child rape wins. Good for your football program."

He immediately signed off.

 

[Legendof44]

My response: "I guess child rape wins. Good for your football program."

He immediately signed off.

Classic response to a non-classy comment by your "friend"

 

[cuseinchina]

This is obviously pretty bad in terms of the message sent. That said this decision seems to have come at the recommendation of their third party consultant former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell who brokered the peace in Northern Ireland. This guy's integrity is beyond dispute and he would be very unlikely to bow to pressure from pro penn state lobby within the NCAA. The guy is very very good and while I question the wisdom of the decision from a public messaging standpoint you can bet that the evaluation was very thorough and very fair.

Worried re recruits though.

 

[Legendof44]

Fair to WHOM exactly besides the penn st fans and community? Using the word FAIR in this case is a dangerous idea my friend. I dont care if he brokered the berlin wall coming down...many many boys were raped for many many years at their compounds...TO THE KNOWLEDGE of several people in the football organization. I dont give a stuff how badly people feel about their precious team losing scholarships and money. I dont give a stuff.

 

[SU2NASA]

Fair to WHOM exactly besides the penn st fans and community? Using the word FAIR in this case is a dangerous idea my friend. I dont care if he brokered the berlin wall coming down...many many boys were raped for many many years at their compounds...TO THE KNOWLEDGE of several people in the football organization. I dont give a stuff how badly people feel about their precious team losing scholarships and money. I dont give a stuff.

What the Penn State fans don't understand (of many many things they obviously don't) about the punishment is that it wasn't meant to punish the current players, it was meant to punish THEM. They created an environment where the RAPING OF CHILDREN was more important than the reputation of their coach, and the on-field success of their football program.

It's absolutely sickening.

 

[billsin01]

Wow. So when do they restore the wins, canonize JoPa and reverse the bowl ban? I was very disappointed to see the trip to Ireland in 2014. So you can't go to a bowl game in Birmingham, AL in December but you can represent NCAA football with an all expenses paid trip to Dublin. Kind of offsets the bowl penalty disappointment, doesn't it? This is just wrong.

They couldn't cancel that trip -- they had already set up a bunch of housing for all the First Mile kids they're taking. I mean, you can't treat your Irish customers ... er, I mean ... hosts that way.

 

[dollarbill44]

@Matt_Maisel
Penn State will have 75 scholarships in 2014, 85 in 2015, and 95 in 2016 according to #6news reporter Gary Sinderson


NCAA Press Release

So, not only do they get their schollies fully reinstated by 2015, they are getting an extra 10 for 2016? This can't be right, can it?

 

[billsin01]

This is obviously pretty bad in terms of the message sent. That said this decision seems to have come at the recommendation of their third party consultant former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell who brokered the peace in Northern Ireland. This guy's integrity is beyond dispute and he would be very unlikely to bow to pressure from pro penn state lobby within the NCAA. The guy is very very good and while I question the wisdom of the decision from a public messaging standpoint you can bet that the evaluation was very thorough and very fair.

Worried re recruits though.

Eh, I don't know. Mitchell was the one who did the baseball report on PED use that included no Red Sox. I believe he's from New England and fairly close with Sox owner John Henry. I have no idea if that played into it or if the Sox simply hid the PED use better, but that's a fishy one -- and I'm a sox fan.

 

[Legendof44]

What the Penn State fans don't understand (of many many things they obviously don't) about the punishment is that it wasn't meant to punish the current players, it was meant to punish THEM. They created an environment where the RAPING OF CHILDREN was more important than the reputation of their coach, and the on-field success of their football program.

It's absolutely sickening.

Couldn't agree more. If the same were to happen at Syracuse i would expect current team to be part of the punishment because there is honestly no other way of showing how big of a deal it is without hurting the program in its current state. I hate the argument espn people make about how " these current kids have nothing to do with it" yea but you know what? If they want to support programs that continue to cheat, programs that continue to rape kids etc... then EXPECT to not have a positive light shed on the program. If you don't like that answer...then DONT go to that freakin school. Thats why punishments are created..to teach a lesson.

 

[billsin01]

wow...i used to respect Thamel.. no longer can i make that statement.

There are so many things that leave a bad taste about this whole thing, mostly with Ped St, but the one I can't figure out (and I usually defend the media) is all the media support for PSU. Really strange to me. I literally heard Cowherd today say (among other stupid and pointless things), "what is the NCAA going to do -- judge every criminal matter? They're going to punish teams for kids getting DUIs?"

How people say this isn't directly related to football is beyond me.

And for recruits parents -- why are they sending kids to Ped St. again? Really? You're looking at all those schools and settling on Ped St.? No little twinge of 'maybe we should look elsewhere for now ...'? Just bizarre.