Painting himself into a corner. Marrone interviewing for Jacksonville O.C. job

[kuethstheman]

Good move. He'll be "head coaching in waiting" if/when the HC Jacksonville to get canned after next season. He'd be the logical successor: HC experience. Turnaround specialist. Would have a year in the program and ownership is cheap.

It's a win/win for Marrone. If Jacksonville somehow gets to 9 or 10 wins, he'll be a hot commodity under just about scenario that would get them there. Marrone gets his HC jobs somewhere else (St. Doug resurrects Bortles from the football dead, etc etc.)

If they are terrible, he's the logical choice to take over. Bradley is outta lives. Marrone still gets his HC job.

Too, Jacksonville is also the NFL equivalent of Siberia. He'll be out of the media spotlight completely. Minimal unruly fans or press.

Is it as good as getting a shiny new HC job now? No. But it's a shrewd play. Sell the present/Buy the future.

Good theory. If it works, it was genius!

 

[Melancer46]

I also think he's simply happier to be out of Buffalo. He was hired because of the plan that he had created for how to turn the Bills around and then after one year, they told him he couldn't continue with his plan. He's a very organized, plan-oriented kinda guy. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he simply wanted to get out of Buffalo and see if he could find a job elsewhere where he would have the organization's trust to do the job he was hired to do. Buffalo didn't offer that for him anymore.

 

[Dr. Bill]

Who is criticizing him for executing the opt out. Most Bills fans areally psyched at the way things ended up. I do think Marrone showed his true colors by opting out and I think his master plan failed. How do you think Hackett feels after giving up a stable position here to follow Marrone?

Very few comments of praise for Marrone in this.."painting himself in a corner thread. Most of the posts are negativcalling Marrone a quitter, selfish, only looking out for Doug…..etc. …etc. Some saying the move has backfired…Really?

 

[SU2NASA]

Hope they're successful at achieving the whole 40 virgins thing.

Some of us don't need the afterlife to achieve such a feat.

 

[Dr. Bill]

Who is criticizing him for executing the opt out. Most Bills fans areally psyched at the way things ended up. I do think Marrone showed his true colors by opting out and I think his master plan failed. How do you think Hackett feels after giving up a stable position here to follow Marrone?

Hackett is a grown man. He chose to leave to follow his dream of coaching in the big show….These guys understand the risks. He has enhanced his resume with Offensive Coordinator of a Pro Team. He can parlay that into a bigger job..on the college level..or another Pro Job. No tears shed for these guys…

 

[OrangeAl]

Doug had a pretty good opportunity to leave the employer that he hated and jump to the same job at a rival. I'd imagine a lot of people that hate their jobs would do the same thing but it's also a good reminder not to make big decisions out of spite. I'm guessing that his move to coach in the AFC South (Houston or Jacksonville) is a strategic step towards getting the Titans job next Winter. His wife is from Nashville and Ken Wisenhunt is such a disaster that it's pretty much a guarantee that the job will be available.

When did it come out that Doug hated his employer? You think he quit without any job prospect because Whaley bothered him that much?

 

[Millhouse]

I understand there is a lot of hate on this site for Marrone…I am not a huge fan, but to criticize him for executing a clause in his contract to walk away, I just don't get it. There is no question that he is a huge winner in this deal, even if he doesn't get another head coaching deal this year. Every coach out there would love to have a "Marrone Clause" added to their deal. He was a lame duck and it was clear the new owner wanted to hire his own man. The only way his future bargaining position would have been better than it is right now is if he went 14-2 next year and went to the Super Bowl…and how likely was that?

How was it clear? People act like he was in the last year of his deal. He wasn't.

 

[Brian Orange]

a young HC, with a young staff, with obvious offense needs...because they are coached by an even younger inexperienced staff, goes out and hires an adult OC with HC experience, to come in and whip people into shape.

this makes total sense for the jags.

and not a bad option for doogie if he takes it. he can probably command the highest salary other than bradley and will be given total control of a young offense where if he has success...he can springboard back to a job.

but the bad thing, is that he obviously has nothing going on right now and feels he has to go this route.

embarassing.

i dont think he gets a HC job.

i dont think he has the cache to sit out a year and get one.

i didnt think hes was going to get an OC opportunity.

this would seem to be his best...and likely only option...other than becoming the special assistant to the head coach in charge of double secret media members being put on probation...given to him by a coaching friend.

Agree. All true.

I like Marrone but this job is so blah. At least he could have gotten a gig in a bigger market or something. What a bad turn of events for him. But like you said if he can turn around the JAX "O" he will get another head coaching gig. He's not a QB guru so it will be interesting to see if Bortles improves under him.

 

[tep624]

Yes, such an offensive name. I appologize to anyone out there that may actually be named Dougie. If I offended any of you I am truly sorry.
You do realize that Dougie was his nickname while he was still here right? Is it o.k. to still refer to Gerry as G-Mac, or now that he no longer plays is that offensive? What about Carmello Anthony? Will you be upset if I refer to him as Mello? I hope Mike Gbinije doesn't get to used to the whole "Silent G" nickname. I mean, he is leaving after next year.

His nickname was never even remotely close to being universally "Dougie" like, for instance, Carmelo's was Melo. Dougie generally was used by those that disliked him as a slight to him.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Agree. All true.

I like Marrone but this job is so blah. At least he could have gotten a gig in a bigger market or something. What a bad turn of events for him. But like you said if he can turn around the JAX "O" he will get another head coaching gig. He's not a QB guru so it will be interesting to see if Bortles improves under him.

***Pro doogie alert** i think he will.

He turned nassib into a 4th rnd pick (yet inexplicably he also had people thinking he was a 1st rnder, which might be the greatest trick ever pulled this side of the devil convincing the world he didn't exist)...and just got 9 wins out of buffalo with Manuel and orton as QBs.

There's weird talent in jax and his conservative, don't the game plan, lets play it safe and close to the vest,win the battle for field position and let the D do something good...might work well in that crappy division...who also gets to play its NFC division window next year.

That's his dream job for 2015, for we all know what he'd be in Houston...

 

[Shenexon]

He'd make a fine commentator on ESPN and collect his payoff from Buffalo while waiting for his next opportunity. I think he'd have a number of options...

 

[NashvilleOrange]

When did it come out that Doug hated his employer? You think he quit without any job prospect because Whaley bothered him that much?

It came out that he was annoyed with the Watkins trade and did not like management pushing him to play EJ. I think he believed he was going to get the Jets job and was looking forward to beating the Bills but nobody but Doug knows if that part is true.

 

[NashvilleOrange]

Also he had that blowup in camp where he said something along the lines of it, fire me.

 

[Stevenson]

Anyone who leaves an HC position for an OC position lost the hand he just played.

For those thinking he Won because He sits home with $4mm have no idea how the world works at that compensation level. Staying home versus playing equals damaged goods.

He has achieved nothing, .500 in bad big east. No playoff appearances in NFL. His iodide is mediocre + 1, then he leaves.

He didn't "rescue" or "turn the corner" at Syracuse. Syracuse sucks. There is absolutely no commitment to football except for about 500 people here. It's over people.

Who are you folks who actually like Doug? Is it a Munchausen thing?

 

[Chip]

Hackett is a grown man. He chose to leave to follow his dream of coaching in the big show….These guys understand the risks. He has enhanced his resume with Offensive Coordinator of a Pro Team. He can parlay that into a bigger job..on the college level..or another Pro Job. No tears shed for these guys…

I kinda feel a little bad for him, but I still sleep at night. I mean, it's not often that a HC opts out of his deal after 2 years for a money grab when no other team is interested in making him their HC.

I wouldn't call it business as usual in the life of an aspiring assistant coach.

 

[Rocco]

Thank you for speaking for everyone. I don't hate anyone though. Am I a big Marone fan? No. Forgive me for allowing myself to be critical of a former head coach. It's not as if I'm cheering as he has become broke and is living out of a dumpster. The man is getting 4 mil next year, plus whatever money he'll earn as an o.c. or wherever he ends up. I don't think a little ribbing is going to break the man.
So freeking serious some of you. Jeesh. Maybe all this cold weather has got you uptight. Relax, it's going to be a balmy 22 degrees tomorrow.

Perhaps hate was a strong word, but it was in jest. The "ribbing" becomes obnoxious after a while.

And for the record, I enjoy the winters up here.

 

[CU44SE]

Come on people, stop trying to make excuses. There are only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL, people don't leave one organization for another unless there is a steep increase in pay or if they get more power which comes with more money. It's not like college were people leave one college for a more prestigious collee. Marrone made a power play and lost. No way he is opting out of a head coaching contract without any other wink nod deal, there was nothing to say he was close to losing his job. The bottom line is his wink nod agreement fell through and/or the owner backed away after he was not impressed on the interview process.

 

[Millhouse]

I kinda feel a little bad for him, but I still sleep at night. I mean, it's not often that a HC opts out of his deal after 2 years for a money grab when no other team is interested in making him their HC. I wouldn't call it business as usual in the life of an aspiring assistant coach.

I thought he'd get a couple years as head coach before going back to oc but I never thought it would be like this! I hope Hackett gets a chance somewhere just so we can find out

 

[cmr27]

It came out that he was annoyed with the Watkins trade and did not like management pushing him to play EJ.

Jax has the third pick in the draft. Amari Cooper is probably gonna be on the board. Doug may feel different about having a rookie WR when he is only responsible for the O.

 

[omg_cuse_rules]

He'll probably open a car dealership once his shtick runs out in the NFL.
"This was once the car of my dreams, hand to god. But I'll let you have it for 2000 off MSRP"

 

[rrlbees]

I also think he's simply happier to be out of Buffalo. He was hired because of the plan that he had created for how to turn the Bills around and then after one year, they told him he couldn't continue with his plan. He's a very organized, plan-oriented kinda guy. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he simply wanted to get out of Buffalo and see if he could find a job elsewhere where he would have the organization's trust to do the job he was hired to do. Buffalo didn't offer that for him anymore.

What was this plan?

 

[orangenirvana]

Must be more to the story. He could have stayed at Buffalo, knowing he'd get canned in a year, and just show some progress. Then he'd look better for the next head coach search. Never a good idea to leave a job before you have a job, and I'd think Doug knows that.

Why do people on this forum keep saying he knew he would get canned in a year? The Bills were willing to keep him. If he is a good coach like many here think he is then the team would have been good and he could have earned an extension.

I understand there is a lot of hate on this site for Marrone…I am not a huge fan, but to criticize him for executing a clause in his contract to walk away, I just don't get it. There is no question that he is a huge winner in this deal, even if he doesn't get another head coaching deal this year. Every coach out there would love to have a "Marrone Clause" added to their deal. He was a lame duck and it was clear the new owner wanted to hire his own man. The only way his future bargaining position would have been better than it is right now is if he went 14-2 next year and went to the Super Bowl…and how likely was that?

Why was it clear that the new owner wanted to hire his own man?

I also think he's simply happier to be out of Buffalo. He was hired because of the plan that he had created for how to turn the Bills around and then after one year, they told him he couldn't continue with his plan. He's a very organized, plan-oriented kinda guy. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he simply wanted to get out of Buffalo and see if he could find a job elsewhere where he would have the organization's trust to do the job he was hired to do. Buffalo didn't offer that for him anymore.

Where did you hear that?

So much stuff being made up on this forum to make Marrone look less incompetent than he is.

 

[orangenirvana]

Good move. He'll be "head coaching in waiting" if/when the HC Jacksonville to get canned after next season. He'd be the logical successor: HC experience. Turnaround specialist. Would have a year in the program and ownership is cheap.

It's a win/win for Marrone. If Jacksonville by some miracle gets to 9 or 10 wins next season, he'll be a hot commodity under any scenario that would get them there. Then Marrone gets his HC jobs somewhere else (St. Doug resurrects Bortles from the football dead, etc etc.) If they are terrible, he's the new HC.

Jacksonville is the NFL equivalent of Siberia. He'll be out of the media spotlight completely. Minimal unruly fans or press.

Is it as good as getting a shiny new HC job now? No. But it's a shrewd play. Sell the present/Buy the future.

I hope you're being sarcastic. When is the last time a coordinator in the NFL was promoted to head coach after the head coach got fired?

 

[cmr27]

I kinda feel a little bad for him, but I still sleep at night. I mean, it's not often that a HC opts out of his deal after 2 years for a money grab when no other team is interested in making him their HC.

I wouldn't call it business as usual in the life of an aspiring assistant coach.

The hate is a little overboard. Yeah, Marrone could have handled it all better but he'd be an after-thought if the university was fully committed to football. We'd be talking about a bright future instead of recriminations about the past. Hate leads to the dark side. Let it go.

 

[Moontan]

Hey, the weather in Jax is nicer than in Buffalo.