Painting himself into a corner. Marrone interviewing for Jacksonville O.C. job

[cmr27]

I hope you're being sarcastic. When is the last time a coordinator in the NFL was promoted to head coach after the head coach got fired?

Off the top of my head, Mike Singletary (yeah, I know how that worked out but it's an answer). The bar is so low in Jax that he can't possibly be blamed if they mail in another 4 win season. The company line will be that the mess was there before he arrived. But he'll get some credit if they become good by some miracle... Is it a great move for him? Definitely not. But it's something.

 

[cmr27]

I hope you're being sarcastic. When is the last time a coordinator in the NFL was promoted to head coach after the head coach got fired?

Now you made me go look it up ... Jason Garrett is the only active coach who was an asst in the same program.

 

[Chip]

The hate is a little overboard. Yeah, Marrone could have handled it all better but he'd be an after-thought if the university was fully committed to football. We'd be talking about a bright future instead of recriminations about the past. Hate leads to the dark side. Let it go.

I was hating with my Bills hat on that time.

Plus I'm just laughing a little at those who said he would never opt out without another job already lined up. Because the NFL is just so easy to predict like that.

 

[Chip]

...for the offensive coordinator job, per the Axeman.

I won't say it. I promise.

Don't worry, everyone else did in the other thread.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Now you made me go look it up ... Jason Garrett is the only active coach who was an asst in the same program.

Niners just promoted their DL coach, so add another to that list.

 

[orangenirvana]

Off the top of my head, Mike Singletary (yeah, I know how that worked out but it's an answer). The bar is so low in Jax that he can't possibly be blamed if they mail in another 4 win season. The company line will be that the mess was there before he arrived. But he'll get some credit if they become good by some miracle... Is it a great move for him? Definitely not. But it's something.

If the Jaguars do well on offense, chances are they won't be firing the head coach. And if they don't do well, then why would they want to promote the OC? Makes no sense.

As for Marrone, here is a guy who ditched his team and the entire coaching staff that he hired personally. He did so in the most callous and ungrateful way possible - without submitting a public statement thanking the first organization that gave him an NFL head coaching opportunity, the fans, etc. Just left and talked junk about them. I don't care about an opt out contract technicality - that to me is the act of a quitter. Period. And that's a huge red flag for any NFL franchise considering him for their HC position...or any position for that matter.

Meanwhile many of his assistant coaches are still unemployed because of his cash grab. I'm sure they appreciate his sticktoitiveness.

His applying for the Jaguars OC job isn't some grand scheme of his. It's a case of him being caught with his pants down and desperately trying to land the best position possible before he becomes unemployed for an entire year.

 

[Toga]

Perhaps he'll land a job doing color commentary on the Grumpy Channel.

 

[shandeezy7]

Good move. He'll be "head coaching in waiting" if/when the HC Jacksonville gets canned. He'd be the logical successor: HC experience. Turnaround specialist. Would have a year in the program and ownership is cheap.

It's a win/win for Marrone. If Jacksonville by some miracle gets to 9 or 10 wins next season, he'll be a hot commodity under any scenario that would get them there. Then Marrone gets his HC jobs somewhere else (St. Doug resurrects Bortles from the football dead, etc etc.) If they are terrible, he's the new HC.

Jacksonville is the NFL equivalent of Siberia. He'll be out of the media spotlight completely. Minimal unruly fans or press.

Is it as good as getting a shiny new HC job now? No. But it's a shrewd play. Sell the present/Buy the future.

So when Jacksonville stinks and Marrone runs the offense into the ground, they will fire the head coach and hire Marrone? Got it.

 

[Crusty]

the owner was going to let him go if they didnt make the playoffs next year, then he would be seen as a fired coach. I still say he is waiting for the giants job to open , OC for a yr or 2 and get ready for the next interview process.

The Giants will never hire him - he is delusional if he thinks that.

 

[CTMick]

Who knows how it will turn out. Jax has some serious young talent on the O side, they have a breakout year and FHCDM looks like a genious again. See how it plays out I guess.

 

[Scooch]

I hope the Jags stay in Jacksonville while he's the OC. I shudder to think how he'd handle the British press.

 

[Crusty]

Good move. He'll be "head coaching in waiting" if/when the HC Jacksonville gets canned. He'd be the logical successor: HC experience. Turnaround specialist. Would have a year in the program and ownership is cheap.

It's a win/win for Marrone. If Jacksonville by some miracle gets to 9 or 10 wins next season, he'll be a hot commodity under any scenario that would get them there. Then Marrone gets his HC jobs somewhere else (St. Doug resurrects Bortles from the football dead, etc etc.) If they are terrible, he's the new HC.

Jacksonville is the NFL equivalent of Siberia. He'll be out of the media spotlight completely. Minimal unruly fans or press.

Is it as good as getting a shiny new HC job now? No. But it's a shrewd play. Sell the present/Buy the future.

Fantasy Island.
The more logical notion is that he needs to stay in coaching. He won't be showing up as a talking head anywhere and if he sits out he will be forgotten pretty soon. He has a very limited head coaching record. He needs to stay in the game.

The real question is will he be any good at being an OC? That is assuming he gets the job. His record on the offensive side of the ball has been pretty unimpressive.

He made a greedy foolish move. It now looks as if he would have made more money over the next two years staying where he was - even if he did get fired.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Fantasy Island.
The more logical notion is that he needs to stay in coaching. He won't be showing up as a talking head anywhere and if he sits out he will be forgotten pretty soon. He has a very limited head coaching record. He needs to stay in the game.

The real question is will he be any good at being an OC? That is assuming he gets the job. His record on the offensive side of the ball has been pretty unimpressive.

He made a greedy foolish move. It now looks as if he would have made more money over the next two years staying where he was - even if he did get fired.

Agreed, it wasn't wise. Pretty clear to see that he pressed, went all in and it backfired. Is he in financial ruin? Absolutely not, doesn't mean that he does not look dumb at this point. Unless he wanted out that badly because he was that unhappy. Either way, very poor career move for Doug as he appears to not play well with others, NY media go him before he even got there

 

[cmr27]

So when Jacksonville stinks and Marrone runs the offense into the ground, they will fire the head coach and hire Marrone? Got it.

Have you seen Jacksonville play? The offense is already in the ground. They won three games. If he can show any sort of improvement above a low bar, he'll get credit. If they stink for the umpteenth straight year, well, he didn't create the problem now did he. I'm not saying it's a genius move. Whatever he planned obviously backfired and his mercurial relationship with players, media and now owners has hurt him. I am saying it's a good move considering his present situation. He has low expectations in a low pressure environment with high upside. It is not better than getting an HC job. Lemonade from lemons.

Of course, he doesn't actually have the job yet.

 

[OrangeAl]

Jerry Sullivan, columnist for the Buffalo News, speculated that Doug didn't like being a head coach.

 

[elimunelson]

I mentioned Jeff Jagodzinski last week and this story is very similar now except Jags had real success coaching BC. Had them top 5 in the country (20-8 overall). Guy bit off more than he chewed and I think he's now the OC of Georgia St.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Jerry Sullivan, columnist for the Buffalo News, speculated that Doug didn't like being a head coach.

I can see that too, get your money and move on but why interview for other HC spots, really not buying it. I think his personality sucks to be a HC because if he doesn't win nobody will cut him ANY slack because he comes off as such a . Not that NFL coaches get much anyway but every bit helps,

Best part about Rex yesterday is he knows that O Line is probably just as big an issue as QB. The thing that would concern me most about marrone is he is an OC O Line coach whose teams have sucked there quite a bit. At least with Rex you know you will play defense and hopefully the OC is right guy. Marrone's identity as a head coach is he hires good d coordinators really and that he gets endorses by influential people because he's dialed in there

 

[Macky44]

What about the terrorists?

I want them to succeed at not being idiots and improving their ways? Of course you had to one up me haha.

 

[Macky44]

Yes, such an offensive name. I appologize to anyone out there that may actually be named Dougie. If I offended any of you I am truly sorry.
You do realize that Dougie was his nickname while he was still here right? Is it o.k. to still refer to Gerry as G-Mac, or now that he no longer plays is that offensive? What about Carmello Anthony? Will you be upset if I refer to him as Mello? I hope Mike Gbinije doesn't get to used to the whole "Silent G" nickname. I mean, he is leaving after next year.

 

[Rocco]

His personality suits some sort of management role. Bank on it.

 

[Macky44]

 

[Melancer46]

Where did you hear that?

So much stuff being made up on this forum to make Marrone look less incompetent than he is.

It was reported that he wanted no part of trading up for Sammy Watkins, likely because it forced the team into a win-now mode instead of staying the course of his plan. And also cost them a valuable first round pick.

 

[Millhouse]

Jerry Sullivan, columnist for the Buffalo News, speculated that Doug didn't like being a head coach.

he might be right but sullivan makes marrone look like a genius and a ray of sunshine

rex shot sullivan down pretty good yesterday

 

[rrlbees]

It was reported that he wanted no part of trading up for Sammy Watkins, likely because it forced the team into a win-now mode instead of staying the course of his plan. And also cost them a valuable first round pick.

It was reported. Many things were reported about the 2 drafts. Not clear whether he did or didn't want. Also, 1 player doesn't change a long term plan to a short term one. I really doubt trading up to get Watkins changed any plan. Win now takes more than 1 rookie.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Jax has the third pick in the draft. Amari Cooper is probably gonna be on the board. Doug may feel different about having a rookie WR when he is only responsible for the O.

cooper will be a top pick for sure, but in 2014 jags went QB in the 1st, 2 WR in the 2nd and an OG in the 3rd. they got denard robinson, cecil shorts and marcedes lewis...who i guess would be on the age downtick. as i said before, they got weird talent, but it might work for him.

i can see them take an OL, but at #3, they will likely take gregory or williams.

provided they dont get a windfall of picks with a trade.