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Dude, each country and society approaches race differently. Each country and society has folks that are racially speaking, in power. In South Africa, for example, historically it's been the white population, despite being outnumbered in terms of population size by black South Africans. And nice touch to add some xenophobic claims about immigrants. Good stuff. You're wrong, btw.

 
The idea that only white people can be racist is just utterly wrong.

***Let me preface this by stating that I'm talking about racism IN THE U.S.***

If we're talking about a definition of racism that goes beyond individuals engaging in acts towards each other at the personal level, and include a definition that accounts for systemic ways people of color are oppressed, then yes, white people are the only people capable of being racist.

If you're talking about a different definition of racism, you're missing a large part of the definition, IMO.

Please see above. IN THE U.S.
 
I understand what Hak’s saying and now just agree to disagree with the methods to adhere to POC student needs within the SU sphere.

Now it’s popcorn time.

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Dude, each country and society approaches race differently. Each country and society has folks that are racially speaking, in power. In South Africa, for example, historically it's been the white population, despite being outnumbered in terms of population size by black South Africans. And nice touch to add some xenophobic claims about immigrants. Good stuff. You're wrong, btw.

So exactly zero white women have been attacked by non-whites, according to your website du jour. what was xenophobic about my question?
 
So the guy who raped a 10 year old girl can't just be a pedophile, he has to be a racist pedophile?

You're one of those people who has never been to Sweden but thinks it's "lost." Perhaps get your news from real news sources and not "Voice of Europe" and other white supremacist outlets.
Nice try, but I’ve spent about 3 months in Europe over the past 2-3 years, Sweden included. It changed a lot since 20 years ago. And I’m not sure what Voice if Europe is. But, good job joining the “Everybody who disagrees with me is a Nazi” camp.
 
Please see above. IN THE U.S.
I get I won’t face the obstacles that minorities have to overcome within the USA growing up. I just think it’s a little broad to say that only white people can be racist in the USA.
I think white people just have to let other minorites have their opinions and not get offended at them.
I bet Asian American/Hispanics/African-Americans can be racist against other minority groups.
 
I get I won’t face the obstacles that minorities have to overcome within the USA growing up. I just think it’s a little broad to say that only white people can be racist in the USA.
I think white people just have to let other minorites have their opinions and not get offended at them.
I bet Asian American/Hispanics/African-Americans can be racist against other minority groups.

He's using a very specific definition of racism though. I don't believe there's been an argument that POC can't be racially biased or bigoted.
 
He's using a very specific definition of racism though. I don't believe there's been an argument that POC can't be racially biased or bigoted.

I think the point is that regardless of the definition its simply not true. I get the point Hak is trying to make (I think ) but to say that white people can't suffer racism in the US is ludicrous. Do whites suffer racism anywhere near the scale of african american or latinos or other minority groups/POC of course not and its not even close, anyone arguing that is insane. That said All people are capable of being racist, whites/caucasians just don't deal with it anywhere close the level POC do.
 
He's using a very specific definition of racism though. I don't believe there's been an argument that POC can't be racially biased or bigoted.
A very specific definition of racism that ensures whitey is the debil.

It’s a definition that is so woke that it’s lit.
 
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He's using a very specific definition of racism though. I don't believe there's been an argument that POC can't be racially biased or bigoted.
I guess I don’t get the specific definition of racism he is citing then.
It’s obvious POC have faced it and still face it worse within the USA.
I just don’t accept only white people in the US can be racist.
 
I think the point is that regardless of the definition its simply not true. I get the point Hak is trying to make (I think ) but to say that white people can't suffer racism in the US is ludicrous. Do whites suffer racism anywhere near the scale of african american or latinos or other minority groups/POC of course not and its not even close, anyone arguing that is insane. That said All people are capable of being racist, whites/caucasians just don't deal with it anywhere close the level POC do.

Can you point out institutional racism against white people? I can't think of any. I'm sure there are instances of it, but overall, the system works for white people. I don't know why it's offensive to say that or point it out and certainly don't understand why anyone would be offended for wanting the system to work equally for all people. Unfortunately, the only people with the power to do that are white, and this small sample in this thread shows that there are a lot of regular people who don't want to even admit that the there are racist elements to the system.
 
I guess I don’t get the specific definition of racism he is citing then.
It’s obvious POC have faced it and still face it worse within the USA.
I just don’t accept only white people in the US can be racist.

It's a long thread, but I thought he made it clear.
 
and this small sample in this thread shows that there are a lot of regular people who don't want to even admit that the there are racist elements to the system.
Please quote these posts. No one said this. And certainly not “a lot.”
 
So, a few observations from my end, as a graduate student at SU whose main area of focus is race, and racism on college campuses.

First, this is not an isolated incident just at SU. All PWIs (Predominantly White Institutions) struggle with issues of race and racism. That is in part because we live in a racist society, but it's also because students often don't have much of a semblance of cultural/racial literacy and competency before they come to college. A prime example of this is when I hear white students use the phrase "colored people" EVERY semester I teach a class at SU. This has happened EVERY. SINGLE. SEMESTER for over five years straight. I've also heard it at other schools too. Whether or not the intent is to harm when that phrase is uttered by an unaware student, the larger lack of awareness remains.

Secondly, SU is absolutely a hostile place for students of color. Point blank. Full stop. How many examples do you need? The "blackface halloween" incident in the early 00's. How about "Over the Hill" student TV programming a few years later? Or the Theta Tau incident last year? Or the Ackerman assault last spring, which the administration tried to downplay and said wasn't racially motivated. Or, if you'd like something more common and everyplace, how about the numerous times I've heard white students in the SU basketball section next to me, while we're watching games at the Dome refer to our black basketball players as "monkeys" and "n****rs". Students of color are routinely harassed at SU, their experiences often invalidated by faculty. I know this because I've worked with many students of color on campus at SU through different programs, and I've also seen it happen.

Lastly, the big issue here is that structurally, SU isn't working hard enough to put their money where their mouth is in regards to equity and inclusion. You swell the student body with international students and enjoy their 100% tuition (international students are not eligible for any form of public financial aid assistance) and the opportunity to tout your "diversity numbers" but they're not supported once they get here. Many programs designed to attract, support, and mentor students of color have either been cut completely, or grossly scaled back. (Paris Noir, POSSE, CSTEP, etc). The SEM 100 class that was instituted as a requirement for all incoming first-year students in the wake of the Theta Tau incident is an absolute joke, with little to no discussion about important racial or social issues. This most recent example of the administration telling students to keep this incident "quiet" so that other students would not get upset is abhorrent.


Having working with many students of color over the last few years at SU, I'm noticing that this generation's group of students are far more in tune with and more likely to advocate for social issues that affect them directly. They're also more likely to demand more from the institution in terms of equity and inclusion, and to voice their displeasure when those feelings and changes aren't met with support and structural change.

This is absolutely a "moment" happening at SU right now, and I wish more people were able to understand both how deep these issues of race, racism and inclusion run on this campus, and why our students are rightfully so upset how their "SU experience" is impacted as a result.
Do minority student say white people?
 
Please quote these posts. No one said this. And certainly not “a lot.”

I'm just going by the resistance to what he's saying. There seems to be an unwillingness to accept the definition of racism and a cognitive disconnect between "racism" and "bias/bigotry." This is a really nuanced discussion and it's unfortunate that you can't always read tone. I apologize if I've misinterpreted anyone, except the guy who brought up migrants in Europe.
 
Can you point out institutional racism against white people? I can't think of any. I'm sure there are instances of it, but overall, the system works for white people. I don't know why it's offensive to say that or point it out and certainly don't understand why anyone would be offended for wanting the system to work equally for all people. Unfortunately, the only people with the power to do that are white, and this small sample in this thread shows that there are a lot of regular people who don't want to even admit that the there are racist elements to the system.
It’s not institutional racism but Gratz v. Bollinger was ruled unconstitutional.
 
It’s not institutional racism but Gratz v. Bollinger was ruled unconstitutional.

I was thinking affirmative action could be an argument, but don't believe that taking two essentially equal candidates and choosing to admit the black one is racist. I can see how someone might think it is even if I disagree.
 
It’s not institutional racism but Gratz v. Bollinger was ruled unconstitutional.

Yet white women have benefitted from affirmative action policy far more than any other identity group.
 
I was thinking affirmative action could be an argument, but don't believe that taking two essentially equal candidates and choosing to admit the black one is racist. I can see how someone might think it is even if I disagree.
I don’t think affirmative action is racist at all. It assumes the two candidates are equally qualified so the tie goes to diversity. That’s not racist at all.
Gratz which was ruled unconstitutional gave minorites a 20 point head start to gain entry no matter their academic status into Michigan that is racist and the court struck it down.
 
I'm just going by the resistance to what he's saying. There seems to be an unwillingness to accept the definition of racism and a cognitive disconnect between "racism" and "bias/bigotry." This is a really nuanced discussion and it's unfortunate that you can't always read tone. I apologize if I've misinterpreted anyone, except the guy who brought up migrants in Europe.

You admitted yourself that he was using a vary narrow definition of racism. Maybe there is a definition somewhere I am missing but I am not aware of any definition for racism that says "not applicable to whites in the United States". Now if your talking specifically long standing system/systemic racism then yes, that is not something a white person save for maybe some off the wall crazy example, would have any knowledge of, I think we can all onagree that. My only point is that to say whites can't experience racism in the US is wrong and sounds insane.
 
He's using a very specific definition of racism though. I don't believe there's been an argument that POC can't be racially biased or bigoted.
That’s kind of a cop out though...

There’s black people that hold disdain for black men and women that date white people. Is that racist or just “racially biased”?

I know exactly what it would be called if a white person held disdain towards another white person for dating a black man/woman... It wouldn’t be “racially biased”.
 
Its important to understand the difference between racism and racial prejudice. It’s not semantics. This explains it well:

“To say that you’re racially prejudiced against another person means that you prejudge him on the basis of the racial group to which he belongs.

The logic here goes as follows: “This person belongs to racial group X. People from group X have characteristic Y. Therefore, this person has characteristic Y as well.” This judgment is made before you have any empirical evidence that the person has the characteristic in question. That’s why it’s called a prejudgment, or prejudice.

If you then act on your prejudice against the person, you’re discriminating against him. This could take the form of ignoring, excluding, avoiding, ridiculing, threatening or even committing violence against the person against whom you’re discriminating.

In these senses of the terms, a person from any racial group can be racially prejudiced and can racially discriminate against a person from any other racial group. White people can do so against black people – and vice versa.

However, racial prejudice and discrimination only become racism when one racial group has more power than another group and uses that power against its members in a systemic manner. To do that, the more powerful group incorporates their prejudices into society’s laws, institutions, policies and norms, which they can then use to discriminate against the less powerful group on a group-to-group, rather than just an individual-to-individual, level.

Thus, black people can be prejudiced and discriminate against white people – but they cannot be racist against them, because of the imbalance in power between the two groups.

For example, a black real estate agent could avoid doing business with a white person because of her race, just as a white real estate agent could do to a black person. But black people cannot create and implement policies that lead to white people being prohibited from purchasing homes in predominantly black neighborhoods, whereas white people can and have done so to black people.

Black people simply lack the power to turn their racial prejudice and discrimination into racism, which is a system of racial oppression, not a mere feeling or behavior that’s racially motivated.”
 
Can you point out institutional racism against white people? I can't think of any. I'm sure there are instances of it, but overall, the system works for white people. I don't know why it's offensive to say that or point it out and certainly don't understand why anyone would be offended for wanting the system to work equally for all people. Unfortunately, the only people with the power to do that are white, and this small sample in this thread shows that there are a lot of regular people who don't want to even admit that the there are racist elements to the system.

I don't think anyone is going to argue that the system overall hasn't worked out for whites, it clearly has not sure who is arguing otherwise and I don't remember anyone saying its offensive for someone of POC to want the same opportunites, they absolutely should. We all know that there are still racial elements in this country that adversely affect POC 100X more then other people, again no argument. My only point is you can't make a blanket statement that racism whatever definition you want to use doesn't apply to a certain subset of the population.
 
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