Class of 2023 PF Joseph "JP" Estrella (ME / Brewster) Offered

[cliftonparksufan]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

It's all about developing relationships. Whether they sign now or as a transfer. Very few kids stay four years at the same school.

 

[Sbucketball]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

Yes. To land elite transfers you must offer guaranteed starting spot and probably bags of cash. It’s easier to recruit depth out of high school than the portal. That’s not reference to JP - I think he will start.

Also most recruits are transfering for a reason, such as not playing enough, which indicates they aren’t perfect. Few true studs transfer because they play a lot or are heading to the NBA. Also miss out on one-and-done types and stud freshmen who will start. Also risky to wait until Spring to fill your roster. The portal needs to be Plan B, and risk mitigation when you lose players. To your point, fewer unranked kids will be offered scholarships because programs won’t be as willing to risk an unknown given the availability of transfers.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

Well, it's the work you put in the first time around it makes it more likely the kid will think of your school if he's dissatisfied with his first choice. (See Cole Swider)

 

[DaveT]

Yes, absolutely worth it. All of those portal kids start out as a highschool player, and there are more highschool players/wider net to cast on talent. The portal is a nice way to shore up needs on the roster but there's no guarantee you get what you want out of it.

There is even less surety that a HS kid will work out. But I understand your point. We are seeing teams build roosters out of the portal.

 

[DaveT]

Yes. To land elite transfers you must offer guaranteed starting spot and probably bags of cash. It’s easier to recruit depth out of high school than the portal. That’s not reference to JP - I think he will start.

Also most recruits are transfering for a reason, such as not playing enough, which indicates they aren’t perfect. Few true studs transfer because they play a lot or are heading to the NBA. Also miss out on one-and-done types and stud freshmen who will start. Also risky to wait until Spring to fill your roster. The portal needs to be Plan B, and risk mitigation when you lose players. To your point, fewer unranked kids will be offered scholarships because programs won’t be as willing to risk an unknown given the availability of transfers.

We are not getting one and done freshman so I think your point is a little weak. No one is a sure thing. Put A LOT of effort into HS recruiting.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

There is even less surety that a HS kid will work out. But I understand your point. We are seeing teams build roosters out of the portal.

HS kids that don't work out can also end up in the portal, freeing you up to pursue a kid that may work out.

I think we're in a nice position for the portal to be our friend - let some players take their natural course out of the program, and pull in guys that are still really talented but washed out at other programs.

Like our QB transfer from Florida and Markewicz.

 

[Sbucketball]

Imagine Peter Carey develops forward skills and Mounir Hima turns into a legit rim protecting center, and we trot out a big lineup from time to time with Estrella, Carey and Hima in the front court. Leonard Hamilton's dream team.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I hope he comes to Syracuse. But is it worth the effort to go through all you have to do to get HS kids when we know 2000 names are going into the portal (I bet some of our players)? I think it might be too much effort. This isn't sour grapes it is just reality.

This kid is good enough to start next year. He as an immediate impact player.

 

[dasher]

Imagine Peter Carey develops forward skills and Mounir Hima turns into a legit rim protecting center, and we trot out a big lineup from time to time with Estrella, Carey and Hima in the front court. Leonard Hamilton's dream team.

We would never put that team on the floor.

 

[rrlbees]

We would never put that team on the floor.

Nope

 

[RF2044]

We would never put that team on the floor.

Dash, what about putting Hima and Carey up top, where their length would help to deter shots?

 

[Cuse'91]

Twin towers with Carey and Estrella?
Pete plays 5 on O, and 4 on D
JP plays 4 on O, and 5 on D

 

[Orangefizz]

Twin towers with Carey and Estrella?
Pete plays 5 on O, and 4 on D
JP plays 4 on O, and 5 on D

The same scenario applies for Maliq Brown to pair with Estrella on the 4/5

 

[Orangezoo]

Dash, what about putting Hima and Carey up top, where their length would help to deter shots?

One down one up middle of the court no fly zone.

 

[Niastri]

One down one up middle of the court no fly zone.

Diamond and one?

 

[Jake]

We would never put that team on the floor.

All I can think of is all the “McNeil at the 4” posts from way back…

 

[SUOrangeSU]

All I can think of is all the “McNeil at the 4” posts from way back…

LOL or Frank at the 4 and Jesse at the 5 or was it vice versa

 

[Orangezoo]

All I can think of is all the “McNeil at the 4” posts from way back…

Ah yes and in thread view to boot

 

[Cuse_NYC]

LOL or Frank at the 4 and Jesse at the 5 or was it vice versa

I’m still in favor of this lol. And not kidding

 

[SUOrangeSU]

I’m still in favor of this lol. And not kidding

Frank Howard, right?

 

[rocklloyd]

It’s either PC or BC at this point.

 

[baggerbob]

All I can think of is all the “McNeil at the 4” posts from way back…

Years ago Jimmy played DC, Ellis and Owens together. Much better talent back then, Duncan really should have stayed.
That team really needed a point guard.

 

[dasher]

It’s either PC or BC at this point.

what is?

 

[rocklloyd]

what is?

His school choice.

 

[Cuse'91]

His school choice.

I'm hearing UConn.