IthacaMatt
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Without Flip we ain’t doing it
Doing what? Winning the championship?
Without Flip we ain’t doing it
Yes. He’s the key for a chance for JB to get another NC. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look good for SU to get a commitment from him.Doing what? Winning the championship?
No hes not lol. Sure he'd be a fantastic get but we all saw this coming when Duke came in to the picture. I think Peter Carey could become really freaking good. Maybe not top 5 like Flip but, surely he has top 50 potential. It's not often you get a 7'1 big that moves like he does defensively and dunks everything. The transfer portal exist too you know. I've always thought 2022 is the year. I mean look at what Texas did in the portal this year. I think if we could even do a third of that were national championship contendersYes. He’s the key for a chance for JB to get another NC. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look good for SU to get a commitment from him.
By the time Carey is ready to play at the college level, the 2022 recruits will already be gone. Carey can dunk on offense, but that’s about it. There is zero comparison to Flip in regards to basketball skills. Carey might have potential but he is is poor consolation prize compared to Flip. Once again, SU fans overrate recruits. You win national championships with elite talent.No hes not lol. Sure he'd be a fantastic get but we all saw this coming when Duke came in to the picture. I think Peter Carey could become really freaking good. Maybe not top 5 like Flip but, surely he has top 50 potential. It's not often you get a 7'1 big that moves like he does defensively and dunks everything. The transfer portal exist too you know. I've always thought 2022 is the year. I mean look at what Texas did in the portal this year. I think if we could even do a third of that were national championship contenders
By the time Carey is ready to play at the college level, the 2022 recruits will already be gone. Carey can dunk on offense, but that’s about it. There is zero comparison to Flip in regards to basketball skills. Carey might have potential but he is is poor consolation prize compared to Flip. Once again, SU fans overrate recruits. You win national championships with elite talent.
Flip not coming here has nothing to do with lack of effort from the staff though. It’s not like they aren’t tryingBy the time Carey is ready to play at the college level, the 2022 recruits will already be gone. Carey can dunk on offense, but that’s about it. There is zero comparison to Flip in regards to basketball skills. Carey might have potential but he is is poor consolation prize compared to Flip. Once again, SU fans overrate recruits. You win national championships with elite talent.
wrong. Carey is actually a much better defender and athlete than Flip. All you guys do is base your opinion off rankings. Calling him a consolation prize is just am insult tbh. You act like he's Craig Forth or someBy the time Carey is ready to play at the college level, the 2022 recruits will already be gone. Carey can dunk on offense, but that’s about it. There is zero comparison to Flip in regards to basketball skills. Carey might have potential but he is is poor consolation prize compared to Flip. Once again, SU fans overrate recruits. You win national championships with elite talent.
Maybe he's talking about a night out at Faegan's.Doing what? Winning the championship?
I will agree, not looking good for Flip to come here cause he’s not. Not for a lack of effort on the staffs part though.Yes. He’s the key for a chance for JB to get another NC. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look good for SU to get a commitment from him.
I will say that I like Kyle Filipowski but if Syracuse was to sign him, he would drop from the Top 5 to out of the top 50. That said, who cares. If Kyle is the player Syracuse wants and gets, then it will not matter where he is ranked. We liked him when he was ranked 57 in one poll.No hes not lol. Sure he'd be a fantastic get but we all saw this coming when Duke came in to the picture. I think Peter Carey could become really freaking good. Maybe not top 5 like Flip but, surely he has top 50 potential. It's not often you get a 7'1 big that moves like he does defensively and dunks everything. The transfer portal exist too you know. I've always thought 2022 is the year. I mean look at what Texas did in the portal this year. I think if we could even do a third of that were national championship contenders
No hes not lol. Sure he'd be a fantastic get but we all saw this coming when Duke came in to the picture. I think Peter Carey could become really freaking good. Maybe not top 5 like Flip but, surely he has top 50 potential. It's not often you get a 7'1 big that moves like he does defensively and dunks everything. The transfer portal exist too you know. I've always thought 2022 is the year. I mean look at what Texas did in the portal this year. I think if we could even do a third of that were national championship contenders
I am down with this. But, I always saw Flip as the guy that keeps every other guy at a position that most suits them. Especially if we still have Jesse. That would mean we are huge and Lands can play SF and Taylor can play SG. Either way, if we can land a class of Copeland, Taylor, Lands and Carey, that is solid. Add Westry, Bunch or Starling to that group and it becomes phenomenal. Add two of those three and we are straight up loaded.Flip is a terrific talent, but he wasn't the "must get" for me. My "must get" is a real PG, with all this shooting talent assembled around the roster.
Back to the big guys, I'd be very happy with Peter Carey, who looks hard working, scrappy and capable offensively in his video. It's all about how the pieces fit together. You don't have to have the highest rated guy at each position to have the best team.
I am down with this. But, I always saw Flip as the guy that keeps every other guy at a position that most suits them. Especially if we still have Jesse. That would mean we are huge and Lands can play SF and Taylor can play SG. Either way, if we can land a class of Copeland, Taylor, Lands and Carey, that is solid. Add Westry, Bunch or Starling to that group and it becomes phenomenal. Add two of those three and we are straight up loaded.
Agreed, at the end of the day, kids will look at the last couple of years and see that we keep a very tight rotation. Hopefully they will look back a few years to when we played 9 or 10 guys.No question, we would be freaking loaded if he came here. The question would be whether there are enough basketballs. Gotta play a lot more kids than we've been doing if you have this many talented players on the roster.
Craig Forth? Isn't he the guy who has a national championship ring? I'll take an effective role player like him without hesitation.wrong. Carey is actually a much better defender and athlete than Flip. All you guys do is base your opinion off rankings. Calling him a consolation prize is just am insult tbh. You act like he's Craig Forth or some
Warrick was not an afterthought to an afterthought. The staff LOVED him and wanted him very badly, it's just that they didn't identify him until after they were already really deep into recruiting Hodge. There was some tricky roster management going on at that point and the staff told him to hold off on committing but I believe they would have figured out a way to get him onboard even if Hodge committed. They liked him that much and knew that the feeling was mutual.I will agree, not looking good for Flip to come here cause he’s not. Not for a lack of effort on the staffs part though.
I will say recruiting is an in exact science. Would Flip help our team? Absolutely. But there are other players other than Flip we can get that could help us get back into the natty convo. Example: Hakim Warrick was an afterthought to an afterthought when we recruited him and turned out to be a huge piece to our championship team. We’ll always get players that outperform what people expect (think Buddy now) and there will always be people to underperform. Yeah it sucks losing out on good kids, but you are gonna lose out on more of those recruiting battles than you win because everyone wants them. Can’t get too high and can’t get too low on recruiting cause you never truly know what you are gonna get.
Glad to see some perspective shared from one of our recruiting insiders who was around back then. Yea, I always heard the staff loved Hak and got him to commit right after Hodge spurned us.Warrick was not an afterthought to an afterthought. The staff LOVED him and wanted him very badly, it's just that they didn't identify him until after they were already really deep into recruiting Hodge. There was some tricky roster management going on at that point and the staff told him to hold off on committing but I believe they would have figured out a way to get him onboard even if Hodge committed. They liked him that much and knew that the feeling was mutual.
Carey reminds me more of Rony than Forth FWIW. You might be too young to know Ronywrong. Carey is actually a much better defender and athlete than Flip. All you guys do is base your opinion off rankings. Calling him a consolation prize is just am insult tbh. You act like he's Craig Forth or some
Craig Forth, the principal?Craig Forth? Isn't he the guy who has a national championship ring? I'll take an effective role player like him without hesitation.
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As for Flip, would be an amazing get, but I'm in the camp of REALLY wanting to land a solid "true" PG probably more than anything.
Craig Forth and Danny Schayes were both Academic All-Americans. That's an accomplishment that should be celebrated more.Craig Forth? Isn't he the guy who has a national championship ring? I'll take an effective role player like him without hesitation.