Right, except we wouldn't have 4 guys in the top 100. We'd have 2. You aren't getting it. You're going off hypotheticals. And again, I like the reference to Cincy, but 25% of the class in the top 150 hasn't committed yet, so Cincy isn't finishing at 16th with the class they currently have.
There were a few people on here (no longer on here, I believe) that were VERY enthusiastic about what they were sure was going to happen with this recruiting class. We all had high hopes based on what happened early with Dior committing and who he was going to "bring along". Well, there was obviously reason for caution at that stage to any rational person. At the end of the day, it is about the players that actually make it to campus and then how they perform while at Syracuse. I really like the three guys we have committed. I like to look at rankings, but I also trust our coaches and my own eye. I think Copeland is a perfect fit for PG at Syracuse. I tend to think that Taylor is more of a forward than a guard at this stage, but the coaches see him as a SG, and I trust they have a plan to get him there. It will be interesting to see what position he plays at IMG. Carey, I haven't seen a ton of him playing against significant competition, but one thing you can tell is that he is athletic. People hate him being called raw, but I haven't seen anything from him that shows advanced footwork or game ready moves at the D1 level, but I would gladly be wrong. If we get Bunch, I like him, I think he is athletic, and is fairly skilled. He makes outside shots, but his release is low. He has some work to do, but he has the tools to become a really good college player. Brown, he seems to be a good athlete, not elite. He has good dimensions for a power forward. He is tall and long and has a good frame to fill out. I don't ever see him becoming a stretch 4. He is more of a rebounding score near the basket and play good defense forward. Personally, I love that kind of forward. If we have three shooters on the floor and then two big guys that can grab some offensive rebounds and play great defense and score down low, I will be very happy. Anyway, rankings are nice to look at, but let's not reduce these guys down to a number. I don't think any of these guys are immediate superstars, but they all look like guys that will contribute to a winning program.
I fully appreciate what you are trying to do.
Campus isn’t any more grand than many others, and South Bend is a dump of a city.
Bottom line is, people like to piss and moan, but if you are married to rankings, they don't really matter until the final ranking anyway. And, those don't matter either. If you need those numbers (not you Orangezoo) to help you sleep at night, then you will be disappointed more often than not. Because, we don't play the same recruiting game as Duke and UK. If you need that, it isn't happening. Apparently we have a few things working against us on the recruiting trail as well, perhaps JB's age and coaching style. He isn't young and hip and he doesn't BS these spoiled kids. Some kids just don't value being coached by a hall of fame coach. Anyway, it is about talent accumulation and all of our current commits and potential commits can contribute.
That feels disingenuous.
Nope not at all. I just have a hard time getting excited, I have read this book. Hard to be hopeful.
I hear you. Most of us have been around long enough to see these things go both ways. I thought, mistakenly, that you implied knowledge to the contrary.
Don't be pessimistic. No one knows anything for sure. We have a shot. So does ND. We will all know soon enough. If you want something positive, I do know this. We really impressed him on his last visit here. We have everything to offer him.
just because 25% of the top hasn’t committed doesn’t mean it’ll all end up above us. It’s not like 37 or so players in the top 150 are all gonna go to about 20 or so teams. I just laid it out to you to show that the other uncommitted players won’t change this all that much. Our class computing right now is 45.1 with our current class(currently 30th, last year would’ve been 47th). Including bunch and brown would then be a 60.48(currently 10th and last year 16th).
Nope, I dont really ever have any inside info. Just a fan trying not to be a Debbie downer...lol, which hant been easy of late. But I am hoping we pull out the upset.
While I don’t know how far Carey will be ranked it’s impossible to Kkow, I do know that right now without his ranking he essentially doesn’t count on our class ranking because he doesn’t have a grade. Therefore, regardless if he’s just a 3star, top 200, it’ll still add to the total class grade/ranking. A 3star could have a grade from like 2-10 or so. Quadir is around 9.5 while brown is closer to 3, though both are 3 stars according to website I shall not name.
I am trying real hard. I mean, either way.
There's still a lot of guys yet to commit anywhere. Looking at the last couple years, 20-25 seems to be our range (again, working off my assumptions of no significant changes to player rankings).
All offense to Rutgers
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