Class of 2022 - PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE | Page 18 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2022 PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE

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kcsu said:
Hard to compare the 2. Both excellent players. If they played
1 on 1 Devo wins 8 out of 10.
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yeah, you have no idea if that is true and second, if it was...so what? That isn't how the game of basketball is won 5 on 5.
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
So the measure is a half a season, not a career. Devo was far better at getting to the rim, getting to the line, and dribbling, just to name a few important parts of the game.
Now, if you want to argue that off the court issues detracted from Devo's value to the team, I am not an insider, so I do not know about that.
Also, I suspect, but do not know, that Buddy is a leader who commands respect within the team given how hard he works and how he has handled his burdens, which no player at SU has ever had.
I think Buddy is great, at what he does, and I hope he continues his improvement. He is a right type of player at the right time in the right system with the right coach. He could be huge this year, and will create a lot of chances for others just by being on the court.
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Devo is better at getting to the rim. Getting to the line. And dribbling. Buddy is better at getting his team wins by scoring baskets in waves. To each his own.
 
I once had a conversation with an SU assistant coach comparing some of the guards from the 2002 to 2009 era, right before the 09-10 season. One of his telling quotes was "GMac would stink half the game but he'd make winning plays when we needed it. Devo would get himself a nice statline. Scoop will drive you crazy but win us more games this year." I'd be willing to bet he would value Buddy over Devo in a heartbeat.
 
This 8 min condensed game is a few months old so it may have been posted before. So apologies if it has. But it’s a HS game and Copeland looks way more under control and makes some sweet assists, nice drives to the basket and hits a couple jumpers. None of the crazy stuff. Maybe it’s because it’s a HS game vs an AAU or all star game.

 
rrlbees said:
This 8 min condensed game is a few months old so it may have been posted before. So apologies if it has. But it’s a HS game and Copeland looks way more under control and makes some sweet assists, nice drives to the basket and hits a couple jumpers. None of the crazy stuff. Maybe it’s because it’s a HS game vs an AAU or all star game.

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Those are extremely impressive highlights.

I looked up the newspaper article on the game to see if I could get some stats and found Quadir had 28 points, 8 assists, and 6 rebounds. And that's going up against the undefeated top ranked team in the state.

Wagner (the #1 ranked player in the country in his grade) had 22.

www.nj.com

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center
www.nj.com www.nj.com
 
dasher said:
yeah, you have no idea if that is true and second, if it was...so what? That isn't how the game of basketball is won 5 on 5.
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You just made my point. Thx
 
General20 said:
Those are extremely impressive highlights.

I looked up the newspaper article on the game to see if I could get some stats and found Quadir had 28 points, 8 assists, and 6 rebounds. And that's going up against the undefeated top ranked team in the state.

Wagner (the #1 ranked player in the country in his grade) had 22.

www.nj.com

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center
www.nj.com www.nj.com
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I would imagine he would be more dedicated on defense here than in high school.
 
kcsu said:
You just made my point. Thx
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Really? I bet you would have said the same exact things about Devo and Rautins, Andy. And last I looked, the guys that get paid to make these kind of judgments, drafted Andy, not Devo. And Andy actually played a few games in the NBA. Let's see if Buddy gets drafted. Oh, and if you read my post, I didn't make your point at all. . Reading and understanding is your friend. I said you don't know that. And EVEN, if he would, the game is played 5 on 5. The word even, has a meaning. It means that I don't concede that point but even if I did, it would be meaningless. That isn't how the game is played. I have no problem with people who disagree with me on this. Devo is a sacred cow here. But the team was better off without him in what would have been his sr year. And when he didn't play in a key game his jr game, we won a big road game.
 
dasher said:
Really? I bet you would have said the same exact things about Devo and Rautins, Andy. And last I looked, the guys that get paid to make these kind of judgments, drafted Andy, not Devo. And Andy actually played a few games in the NBA. Let's see if Buddy gets drafted. Oh, and if you read my post, I didn't. reading is your friend. I said you don't know that. And EVEN, if he would, the game is played 5 on 5. The word even, has a meaning. It means that I don't concede that point but even if I did, it would be meaningless. That isn't how the game is played. I have no problem with people who disagree with me on this. Devo is a sacred cow here.
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Wow. Ok. Even though you didnt mean to make my point its ok that you did:) There both good players. As i said very different. If they played a game of HORSE Buddy would win 8 out of 10:)
 
orangefog said:
I would imagine he would be more dedicated on defense here than in high school.
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i was looking for him on defense but it’s hard to say because for the most part he wasn’t up top or guarding a guard. Looked like most of the time he was down low someplace guarding a forward . Probably because Copeland is one of their taller players.
 
General20 said:
Those are extremely impressive highlights.

I looked up the newspaper article on the game to see if I could get some stats and found Quadir had 28 points, 8 assists, and 6 rebounds. And that's going up against the undefeated top ranked team in the state.

Wagner (the #1 ranked player in the country in his grade) had 22.

www.nj.com

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center
www.nj.com www.nj.com
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nice stat line. Thanks for the research.
 
kcsu said:
Wow. Ok. Even though you didnt mean to make my point its ok that you did:) There both good players. As i said very different. If they played a game of HORSE Buddy would win 8 out of 10:)
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LOL
 
dasher said:
Really? I bet you would have said the same exact things about Devo and Rautins, Andy. And last I looked, the guys that get paid to make these kind of judgments, drafted Andy, not Devo. And Andy actually played a few games in the NBA. Let's see if Buddy gets drafted. Oh, and if you read my post, I didn't make your point at all. . Reading and understanding is your friend. I said you don't know that. And EVEN, if he would, the game is played 5 on 5. The word even, has a meaning. It means that I don't concede that point but even if I did, it would be meaningless. That isn't how the game is played. I have no problem with people who disagree with me on this. Devo is a sacred cow here. But the team was better off without him in what would have been his sr year. And when he didn't play in a key game his jr game, we won a big road game.
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I’m sure you guys could easily slide into each other’s DM’s and finish eh?
 
GoCuse14 said:
I’m sure you guys could easily slide into each other’s DM’s and finish eh?
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You might not have noticed but it is finished. You actually just kept it going. You should have posted this hours ago.
 
dasher said:
You might not have noticed but it is finished. You actually just kept it going. You should have posted this hours ago.
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Hours? I mean, I get where you are coming from…but

I’m sorry. PM me if you wanna keep this going. It’s dumb. Don’t want to keep clogging this thread up.
 
rrlbees said:
i was looking for him on defense but it’s hard to say because for the most part he wasn’t up top or guarding a guard. Looked like most of the time he was down low someplace guarding a forward . Probably because Copeland is one of their taller players.
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The parts that stood out to me were when he was sort of guarding a guard and he let them pass and then he tried the reach around. Or, a big guy (about the same size as him) got the ball down low, and he just let him go. I honestly don't think it is a big deal, not every kid in high school plays defense with much intensity. He has the size and athleticism to be a GREAT defender, especially at the top of the zone, and I believe that is what he would be, a great defender.
 
General20 said:
Those are extremely impressive highlights.

I looked up the newspaper article on the game to see if I could get some stats and found Quadir had 28 points, 8 assists, and 6 rebounds. And that's going up against the undefeated top ranked team in the state.

Wagner (the #1 ranked player in the country in his grade) had 22.

www.nj.com

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center

Boys basketball: No. 1 Camden stays unbeaten with win over Life Center
www.nj.com www.nj.com
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I thought Wagner was really impressive. Copeland played more under control than that AAU game and a couple highlights tapes that were making the rounds. He throws those looping passes that can get picked off by college athletes. That part of his game reminded me a bit of Scoop; he used to throw some risky passes like that. Copeland slithers to the rim. His jump shot looks ok, nothing great, but they do go in. He played a lot of matador defense.
 
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