Class of 2022 - PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE | Page 56 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2022 PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE

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Cheriehoop said:
Agree 6 turnovers and 5 fouls - the turnovers are particularly concerning for a point guard. Hopefully the coaches and Copeland work on cleaning that up.
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I didn’t realize he had 6 but he tries to get too cute or fancy sometimes. That’s part of his “charm” but he needs to learn when to dial it down and I think that will happen. His midcourt alley oop pass for a dunk was a highlight but not something JB would tolerate as it’s probably going to go awry 90% of the time.
 
I'm actually glad to hear he had five steals to go with those five fouls. It means he's pressing on developing his defensive instincts. I'd rather he use this time now, while he's in high school, to discover his limits on defense on the assumption that he'll learn from it & not make those kind of mistakes when he arrives at SU...or fewer, anyway...
 
rrlbees said:
I didn’t realize he had 6 but he tries to get too cute or fancy sometimes. That’s part of his “charm” but he needs to learn when to dial it down and I think that will happen. His midcourt alley oop pass for a dunk was a highlight but not something JB would tolerate as it’s probably going to go awry 90% of the time.
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From some much earlier videos of Copeland during his recruitment, I couldn’t help but laugh at some of the stuff he tried and imagined JB’s reaction to it. It should be interesting for sure trying to tame him especially being in the pg role. I hope he’s looking forward to being coached and realizes his game needs more discipline and better judgement to fulfill his great potential. It could be a wild ride but really rewarding to watch him develop.
 
rrlbees said:
We have a box score. IMG only committed 5 fouls. All by Copeland. Lol.

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There is no way that's true, you can't trust high school box scores.

But if we are going by what is there, our two guys combined to shoot 70% from the filed while scoring 32 points and 9 assists ... pretty good for a first game.
 
Cheriehoop said:
Agree 6 turnovers and 5 fouls - the turnovers are particularly concerning for a point guard. Hopefully the coaches and Copeland work on cleaning that up.
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I see a lot of Lazarus Sims in Copeland. Lots of talent, not so much good judgement.

Z finally put it together his senior season at Syracuse. I hope Quadir 'gets it' sooner than Lazarus did.
 
OrangeDW said:
I can deal with turnovers caused by trying to do too much. That is fixable.

As long as he can dribble, and go by people and get to his spots, we’re good.
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Agreed. That's one of the biggest transitions for lead guards -- eliminating stuff that they could get away with at the HS level, once they step up to the collegiate level.

I'd be more concerned about him not seeing the floor well, not demonstrating lead guard aptitude, etc. Which fortunately isn't the case.

He has some things he needs to clean up, and perhaps some opportunities to tighten the handle a bit, but the tools are all there. And he seems really, really adept at using his size to create mismatches -- as General20 pointed out this summer when he did a game film analysis.
 
jmcclure33 said:


I just really struggle to see how someone watches this and lists him as a 3 star. Maybe he’s just the prototypical highlight player and does nothing otherwise, but kid really looks like he has a high ceiling.
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All of you 3 star people so concerned about 3***stars. Donovan McNabb was a three star too and he really sucked playing for us and the Eagles.
 
BillSU said:
All of you 3 star people so concerned about 3***stars. Donovan McNabb was a three star too and he really sucked playing for us and the Eagles.
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Not so sure about that:

High School: McNabb earned Parade Magazine All-American honors while leading Mount Carmel to a state championship ... Earned Chicago Sun Times Athlete of the Year honors as a senior.
 
Ithaca: Well I got this one wrong. I did not do enough research. You da Man! Thanks for correcting me.


At Mt. Carmel High School, where McNabb was a star athlete, he was surrounded by immense talent. Two of his classmates were future NFL standout Simeon Rice and Antoine Walker of the NBA. In high school, McNabb was a prep All-America selection and was also named Chicago Defender News player of the year. He also excelled on the basketball court.

High School: Tom Lemming All-American and No. 2 rated prep option QB in the country ... 874 passing yards and 12 passing TDs and 633 rushing yards and 13 rushing TDs as a senior

Top 50 high school quarterbacks of all time
13. Donovan McNabb, Mount Carmel (Chicago, Ill.), 1994
High School: Earned Parade Magazine All-American honors while leading Mount Carmel to a state championship ... Earned Chicago Sun Times Athlete of the Year honors as a senior.
College: A three-time All-Big East Offensive Player of the Year ... Had a 35-14 record at Syracuse ... A backup on Syracuse's 1996 team that reached the NCAA national championship basketball game.
Professional: Earned Pro Bowl honors six times and led the Eagles to a Super Bowl appearance ... Threw for 37,276 yards in his career.
 
BillSU said:
Ithaca: Well I got this one wrong. I did not do enough research. You da Man! Thanks for correcting me.


At Mt. Carmel High School, where McNabb was a star athlete, he was surrounded by immense talent. Two of his classmates were future NFL standout Simeon Rice and Antoine Walker of the NBA. In high school, McNabb was a prep All-America selection and was also named Chicago Defender News player of the year. He also excelled on the basketball court.

High School: Tom Lemming All-American and No. 2 rated prep option QB in the country ... 874 passing yards and 12 passing TDs and 633 rushing yards and 13 rushing TDs as a senior

Top 50 high school quarterbacks of all time
13. Donovan McNabb, Mount Carmel (Chicago, Ill.), 1994
High School: Earned Parade Magazine All-American honors while leading Mount Carmel to a state championship ... Earned Chicago Sun Times Athlete of the Year honors as a senior.
College: A three-time All-Big East Offensive Player of the Year ... Had a 35-14 record at Syracuse ... A backup on Syracuse's 1996 team that reached the NCAA national championship basketball game.
Professional: Earned Pro Bowl honors six times and led the Eagles to a Super Bowl appearance ... Threw for 37,276 yards in his career.
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I believe he also may have had a Nebraska offer, which for an option QB at the time was like getting an Alabama or OSU offer today
 
sutomcat said:
I see a lot of Lazarus Sims in Copeland. Lots of talent, not so much good judgement.

Z finally got his chance his senior season at Syracuse. I hope Quadir 'gets it' sooner than Lazarus did.
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FIFY. If you could find the tape, when Michael Lloyd left, I called the predecessor of the Adam Schein show and predicted a Final Four because Z would be running the show.
 
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sutomcat said:
I see a lot of Lazarus Sims in Copeland. Lots of talent, not so much good judgement.

Z finally put it together his senior season at Syracuse. I hope Quadir 'gets it' sooner than Lazarus did.
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Good call Tom. Hes raw but super talented. Gmac will have this kid playing great ball by his sophomore year. Q is my favorite recruit out of this class.
 
The thing I like about Copeland is that he brings something I think we've been missing for a while, and that is, multiple times a game he's going to pull something off that's a clear reminder to the opponent that he can do some things in basketball that they just can't.

And that is a powerful thing.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
The thing I like about Copeland is that he brings something I think we've been missing for a while, and that is, multiple times a game he's going to pull something off that's a clear reminder to the opponent that he can do some things in basketball that they just can't.

And that is a powerful thing.
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He's got serious swag. I hope JB doesn't crush it out of him, because it's part of what makes him so special. Sometimes, you just have to "try stuff" out there. He's got so much Pearl in him, but obviously not at that level yet that he's undefendable on the drive.
 
IthacaMatt said:
He's got serious swag. I hope JB doesn't crush it out of him, because it's part of what makes him so special. Sometimes, you just have to "try stuff" out there. He's got so much Pearl in him, but obviously not at that level yet that he's undefendable on the drive.
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He let MCW play, so I will expect JB to let him play. Might give JB fits, but with this type of player you have the good and bad.
 
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