Pitt game is the one i want most

[Noexcuse]

The problem is that in close games bad calls are magnified - particularly when they happen near the end of the game (Butler, Marquette, Michigan).

 

[BuffOrange]

I'm with Doc on most of these games. Ohio St was just a clusterf*** but the calls went both ways. Marquette who cares, it took about 2 minutes before it was clear they didn't belong on the same floor as UNC so that game should've never been close (sorta like watching Alabama get dismembered by Uconn in '04). Butler, Rautins & Scoop are jacking up panic 3's like we're down 12 as soon as we fall behind by a single point...

I'm sorry but the Michigan game was a freaking travesty. We were down 2 before the Triche charge because of an atrocious block on MCW.
Obviously Southerland & other guys could've played better as to not be in that position.
"X and Y could've played better & been in a better position" is also something that can be said of every close game in the history of sports. Duke could've played better defense & not needed a miracle Laettner play vs Kentucky. UCLA could've played better vs Mizzou and not needed a length of the floor play. The Patriots could've played better so they don't need the Tuck rule called. Etc etc etc.

We needed zero lucky breaks to make the F4, which is rare for even the most dominant of teams. The refs took away the opportunity of that 1 improbable thing most teams need to win a title. They didn't take it away from Michigan when they were getting handled by Kansas; instead they got a memory of a lifetime. Was there one person in the entire world that said "KU was better, Mich didn't play well enough"? That's only ever said when there's a screwjob.

 

[CorduroyG]

I'm with Doc on most of these games. Ohio St was just a clusterf*** but the calls went both ways. Marquette who cares, it took about 2 minutes before it was clear they didn't belong on the same floor as UNC so that game should've never been close (sorta like watching Alabama get dismembered by Uconn in '04). Butler, Rautins & Scoop are jacking up panic 3's like we're down 12 as soon as we fall behind by a single point...

I'm sorry but the Michigan game was a freaking travesty. We were down 2 before the Triche charge because of an atrocious block on MCW.
Obviously Southerland & other guys could've played better as to not be in that position.
"X and Y could've played better & been in a better position" is also something that can be said of every close game in the history of sports. Duke could've played better defense & not needed a miracle Laettner play vs Kentucky. UCLA could've played better vs Mizzou and not needed a length of the floor play. The Patriots could've played better so they don't need the Tuck rule called. Etc etc etc.

We needed zero lucky breaks to make the F4, which is rare for even the most dominant of teams. The refs took away the opportunity of that 1 improbable thing most teams need to win a title. They didn't take it away from Michigan when they were getting handled by Kansas; instead they got a memory of a lifetime. Was there one person in the entire world that said "KU was better, Mich didn't play well enough"? That's only ever said when there's a screwjob.

that drives me nuts when players or coaches say that. "we should have played better and not let it come down to the last play." these guys arent robots, they cant just play well whenever they feel like it. sometimes you have a bad game, sometimes the other team has a better game plan, sometimes the shots just arent falling. but that doesnt mean its ok for the refs to take away a chance for you to win the game.

 

[zhanjuzi]

Please don't use the Cal game to justify the Ohio State game. A lot of those Cal fouls were to extend the game as we weren't shooting FTs well at the end. Syracuse controlled the Cal game practically the entire game. Ohio State-Syracuse was a 50/50 game where whistles were called horribly all game long.

We lost to Michigan because we didn't play well, but the ZEBRAS charge call WAS THE DECIDING FACTOR. If the ref doesn't CALL Triche for an offensive foul and calls Morgan for the block as he slide under we are down 2 points with 14 seconds and Brandon Triche shooting 2 FTs instead the ref called a HORRIBLE charge and decided the game and fouling Triche out. Its nice of you to ignore the 2011 Marquette game as well. I don't rip refs unless its warranted we have gotten crappy calls that have decided outcomes of games in 2011, 2012, 2013.

I'm of the opinion that if the game is close enough that a dubious call seems to determine the outcome, then the losing team did not do enough to separate itself earlier.

 

[kirbivore]

Bigger than NC, and Duke. This is a game we need to win for pride and respect. It eats me alive that they have gotten the best of us , especially at home. Its time for a change, its time to win the battle in the trenches and chalk up a win. Lets win this.

I was plenty happy when SU beat Pitt in last year's BET. If they lose tomorrow they can still beat Pitt in that hellhole known as Greensboro.

 

[kirbivore]

Why didn't that "suplex" decide the game? We were winning and they drained a three shortly thereafter.

I don't understand why that didn't impact the game but the bad calls in 2011 or 13 did.

Normally I've got no problem with the stall, but in that game JB going to it after SU finally got the lead was a bigger factor in the loss than the refs.