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[OttoinGrotto]

Lol this is an amazing thread for the wrong reasons.

 

[Orangefizz]

I like having a thread to discuss potential new coaches and styles that would fit Syracuse basketball.

I’m still hoping Red can put it together, but let’s face it, this is the worst season we’ve seen in 50 years

 

[Sherman20]

I wish Ben McCollum was someone we could target he would be best option be he isn't leaving the midwest.

I wouldn’t assume that.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Fired at Minnesota by our friend Mark Coyle. Hired by New Mexico a day later.

I've always been cold on Little Ricky, but considering the depths our program has fallen, he is moving up the thermometer.

Pitino checks off a few boxes, but Cuse might be able to do better.

 

[2B20Again]

All this is simply speculation with no substance. A stick could be Coach if you have talent. SU has a few talented players but most have glaring deficiencies. And yes better players can be found by due diligence, but you need $$$$. SU can under the rules in place hire a big name or a up and comer coach. However, ladies and gentlemen, if you don’t have the funds to BUY the proper ammunition, the best gunslinger in the world can’t hit the target. Nuff Said.

 

[dan7800]

Dumb question: Other than a board desires, are there any "rumors" of actual interest in Hodgson? Sorry if I missed it.

 

[RICuse44]

Dumb question: Other than a board desires, are there any "rumors" of actual interest in Hodgson? Sorry if I missed it.

This is tame compared to the “great Dan Mullen countdown of 2023” over on the football side. I have seen no flight or enterprise rental trackers. Yet.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Dumb question: Other than a board desires, are there any "rumors" of actual interest in Hodgson? Sorry if I missed it.

Don't think so, except he checks off a ton of boxes:

1) From Upstate NY
2) Young
3) Worked under winning coach/program
4) Successful so far as head coach
5) Acknowledged as a great recruiter
6) Prior history with Cuse as a Camp Counselor (allegedly)

 

[AcAndAc]

Sooo... we cannot judge an offense when it is up against a zone because it is so unique that teams struggle against it, but we do not want to run a zone ourselves because... we prefer to lose playing M2M. I think I get it now.

 

[Cuse1055]

Fired at Minnesota by our friend Mark Coyle. Hired by New Mexico a day later.

He had more success at Minnesota than any coach there has had since, including Big Ten Coach of the Year.

 

[SwagSocks]

The love affair with Hodgson is crazy to me. I laid it out in other threads too, so I won’t repeat myself anymore

 

[Chip]

Don't think so, except he checks off a ton of boxes:

1) From Upstate NY
6) Prior history with Cuse as a Camp Counselor (allegedly)

So when he flies back to NYS in the offseason, the board will explode?

On your #6, the words 'camp counselor' and 'allegedly' don't exactly go together as well as peanut butter and jelly.

 

[UnknownOrange]

Million dollar buyouts are pretty cheap now. I think it is standard now for every coach to have some sort of a buyout.

But let’s remember IF Red was fired you have the rest of his buyout, plus this guys, and very possibly the final year of buyout for Dino.

Theoretically SU might be paying 2 coaches to NOT coach for them?

I’m doubtful

 

[kcsu]

Criteria.

Has to have had previous success.
Has to have strong connections to our recruiting base
Needs to be a good recruiter see above
Needs to be able to connect to donors
Has to be Detailed, Accountable, Reliable, Trustworthy

 

[Red2003]

Maybe some day but we need a P5 Coach from a winning program now. Local connections are cool and all but not needed just being from the Northeast is fine.

 

[NKR1978]

Dumb question: Other than a board desires, are there any "rumors" of actual interest in Hodgson? Sorry if I missed it.

There were a lot of threads in 2015 about Dino and the board was pretty into how BGSU was doing. SO there is precedent.

 

[Red2003]

Criteria.

Has to have had previous success.
Has to have strong connections to our recruiting base
Needs to be a good recruiter see above
Needs to be able to connect to donors
Has to be Detailed, Accountable, Reliable, Trustworthy

You said it better than I did. Previous success in P5. I'd be looking at up and comers in the SEC and B1G.

We have a perception as a non-serious program right now as we should. The hire better have some national attention. Fran does not work as a hire for instance unless he has the brand of being the best recruiter in the country.

Whoever we hire better be at the top of his game in some aspect. I'm not sure that's Hodgson.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I think there's been a handful of very good up and coming head coaches hired at other schools that show success at a mid major or lower is way more indicative of high major success than hiring a long time assistant straight into a high major program. Tommy Lloyd is one who went from long assistant to HC and did well. I can't think of any others off the top of my head (outside of Scheyer, but Duke is a different animal in some ways).

 

[MSOrange]

The love affair with Hodgson is crazy to me. I laid it out in other threads too, so I won’t repeat myself anymore

I was probably a bit harsh with one of my responses to you regarding this and I'm not in love with Hodgson. But I do think mid-major coaches do merit at least consideration, even if they don't go undefeated. But they definitely do need to show significant success.

 

[phil77]

You said it better than I did. Previous success in P5. I'd be looking at up and comers in the SEC and B1G.

We have a perception as a non-serious program right now as we should. The hire better have some national attention. Fran does not work as a hire for instance unless he has the brand of being the best recruiter in the country.

Whoever we hire better be at the top of his game in some aspect. I'm not sure that's Hodgson.

There are many reasons we will never be able to take coaches away from the SEC and B1G but the main one will always be $$$. Don't need to sugarcoat anything any good coach with an up-and-coming program in one of those conferences will just be out of price range, especially with a Red buyout that is just being real. We will have to look at non-P4 conferences to find our next coach doesn't have to be Hodgson of course he just checked boxes like Fran did but we will not be able to hire away from the SEC or B1G period don't even need to entertain it.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Criteria.

Has to have had previous success.
Has to have strong connections to our recruiting base
Needs to be a good recruiter see above
Needs to be able to connect to donors
Has to be Detailed, Accountable, Reliable, Trustworthy

So Fran is going to coach hoops too?

 

[Owens guy]

If Syracuse is serious about potentially winning another national title we spend the money needed to get the right coach.

IMHO the right coach is currently a Big 5 head coach that wants to upgrade to a program that traditionally has been one of the top programs in the country like Syracuse.

There are many programs that are seem great to fans (USC, UCLA, Alabama, etc.) but their head coaches would know if there are any issues that they feel limit their success. These coaches may think they would have a better chance at the Final Four and championships at Syracuse (if we can promise proper NIL too).

There will be experienced, big school, head coaches that Syracuse should be checking in with to see how happy they really are whenever we move on from Red.

We don't need to only consider small school coaches on their way up that 'hopefully' would be great at a program like Syracuse but don't have any experience beating the top programs.

 

[Cuse1055]

If Syracuse is serious about potentially winning another national title we spend the money needed to get the right coach.

IMHO the right coach is currently a Big 5 head coach that wants to upgrade to a program that traditionally has been one of the top programs in the country like Syracuse.

There are many programs that are seem great to fans (USC, UCLA, Alabama, etc.) but their head coaches would know if there are any issues that they feel limit their success. These coaches may think they would have a better chance at the Final Four and championships at Syracuse (if we can promise proper NIL too).

There will be experienced, big school, head coaches that Syracuse should be checking in with to see how happy they really are whenever we move on from Red.

We don't need to only consider small school coaches on their way up that 'hopefully' would be great at a program like Syracuse but don't have any experience beating the top programs.

Very interesting points. Out of curiosity, what coaches do you think would fit this description? Someone like a McDermott from Creighton?

 

[phil77]

What happened to Chris Mack at Louisville? I would like to know what happened after COVID? He just came back to coaching this year at Charleston after a couple of years off. Had success at Xavier and Louisville and currently has Charleston at 20-7 record. I would be interested in interviewing him

 

[jdubs30]

What happened to Chris Mack at Louisville? I would like to know what happened after COVID? He just came back to coaching this year at Charleston after a couple of years off. Had success at Xavier and Louisville and currently has Charleston at 20-7 record. I would be interested in interviewing him

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