Post spring unit Depth Charts

[Giants1973]

Yep

Awesome

 

[SUDadx2]

Thanks for the input , and the attitude. Sorry if I don’t have granular fidelity on a 20 man db unit. I didn’t chart every play by the secondary. There is guess work and inferences based on incomplete information.

As for the OL it takes into account the fact that three projected starters were out, which means that some guys that were on the second unit are going to get bumped down.

Same with vets elsewhere that were out with injury.

I appreciate the work.

You definitely started some good conversation during a quiet time.

 

[GoSU96]

Awesome

That’s the five best.

 

[Giants1973]

That’s the five best.

True. So who is the center and other tackle

 

[RICuse44]

True. So who is the center and other tackle

Lt- bergeron
Lg- ellis
C- vet
Rg- bleich
Rt- Davis

Next 2 up would be Hoeh and tisdale I think

 

[TexanMark]

I have them all as 3rd string

Agreed...it'll sort itself out in August

BTW, really nice work Go!

 

[TexanMark]

True. So who is the center and other tackle

I talked to Vetterello after the Spring game. Sounds like center but he sure sounds like a positional "jack of all trades". His injury from VTech game is fully healed he said.

 

[money3189]

I think they go at least three deep at DT. They played four last year with Lockett earning more time as the season went along.

Good point

 

[TexanMark]

I thought the DT walkon from Saranac Lake (Alberga) looked good.

I bet his nickname is Algebra.

 

[bigmike]

I thought the DT walkon from Saranac Lake (Alberga) looked good.

I bet his nickname is Algebra.

He certainly burst onto the scene with that TFL.

 

[Chip]

That’s the five best.

It's your SWC two running backs in the backfield.

I hope they can make it work out with one of the guards out at tackle and Vett at center. I recall him playing pretty well at center the last 3 games of 2019.

 

[GoSU96]

It's your SWC two running backs in the backfield.

I hope they can make it work out with one of the guards out at tackle and Vett at center. I recall him playing pretty well at center the last 3 games of 2019.

Ellis might have eaten his way out of a job. Bleich is a big question mark. Cruz might be the next tackle. My hope is that Dino goes with his five best, which is what he mentioned at some point. That’s a lot of teams approach.

 

[Chip]

Ellis might have eaten his way out of a job. Bleich is a big question mark. Cruz might be the next tackle. My hope is that Dino goes with his five best, which is what he mentioned at some point. That’s a lot of teams approach.

I really hope Cruz is ready to go. Might be a year away still.

 

[SWC75]

Ellis might have eaten his way out of a job. Bleich is a big question mark. Cruz might be the next tackle. My hope is that Dino goes with his five best, which is what he mentioned at some point. That’s a lot of teams approach.

I guess the food here is as good as it is in Hawaii.

 

[tep624]

I suspect by the middle of the season we'll all realize (myself included) that we were overthinking the DL depth chart.

 

[tep624]

Ellis might have eaten his way out of a job. Bleich is a big question mark. Cruz might be the next tackle. My hope is that Dino goes with his five best, which is what he mentioned at some point. That’s a lot of teams approach.

Even if mobility isn't the issue with Ellis at that weight, he's much, much more susceptible to injury at that weight. Human bodies weren't made to carry all that. I hope they put him on a diet/fitness plan and start shedding that bad weight asap.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I suspect by the middle of the season we'll all realize (myself included) that we were overthinking the DL depth chart.

It's not an off-season if there aren't concerns about the size of the DL.

 

[cusefan88]

From what money has said and others it seems like the staff almost certainly wants more DL transfers and are going after Goode now but also waiting to see who's coming into the portal after spring ball shakes out across FBS.

 

[IthacaMatt]

At least my attempt at one. Just going to throw these out there for now. There will almost certainly be portal add/deletes between now and august.

Starting with the Defensive Line

NO.	NAME	POS.	HT.	WT.	YR.	DC
93	Caleb Okechukwu	DE	6-4	269	R-Jr.	1
17	Steve Linton	DE	6-5	217	R-So.	1
90	Terry Lockett	DT	6-3	264	So.	1
30	Chase Simmons	DE	6-4	253	RF	2
54	Jatius Geer	DE	6-6	243	RF	2
99	Elijah Fuentes-Cundiff	DT	6-4	266	RF	2
58	Denis Jaquez Jr.	DE	6-4	229	Fr.	3
95	Francois Nolton Jr.	DE	6-4	240	Fr.	3
45	Kevon Darton	DT	5-11	268	R-So.	3
	Kevin Jobity	DE	6-5	255	Fr.	4
29	Josh Hough	DE	6-3	255	RF	4
	Belizaire Bassette	DT	6-1	270	Fr.	4
96	Elijah Wright	DT	6-3	277	RF	5
56	Patrick Alberga	DT	6-3	261	RF	6

First, thanks for doing this!

Is Josh Hough going to be tried out at DE or DT? Because if lateral movement was the issue with his knee injury, we could use that size in the middle.

We have quicker ends, unless he's used on the strong side opposite a tight end.

 

[IthacaMatt]

At least my attempt at one. Just going to throw these out there for now. There will almost certainly be portal add/deletes between now and august.

Starting with the Defensive Line

NO.	NAME	POS.	HT.	WT.	YR.	DC
93	Caleb Okechukwu	DE	6-4	269	R-Jr.	1
17	Steve Linton	DE	6-5	217	R-So.	1
90	Terry Lockett	DT	6-3	264	So.	1
30	Chase Simmons	DE	6-4	253	RF	2
54	Jatius Geer	DE	6-6	243	RF	2
99	Elijah Fuentes-Cundiff	DT	6-4	266	RF	2
58	Denis Jaquez Jr.	DE	6-4	229	Fr.	3
95	Francois Nolton Jr.	DE	6-4	240	Fr.	3
45	Kevon Darton	DT	5-11	268	R-So.	3
	Kevin Jobity	DE	6-5	255	Fr.	4
29	Josh Hough	DE	6-3	255	RF	4
	Belizaire Bassette	DT	6-1	270	Fr.	4
96	Elijah Wright	DT	6-3	277	RF	5
56	Patrick Alberga	DT	6-3	261	RF	6

I remember hearing names called for all of the first 9 on the DL from the spring game. Collectively, they did a pretty good job.

The backs broke 2 or 3 long runs, but there was pressure at times, and there was some hard hitting at times. I didn't feel like the DL got clearly outplayed in that game. Good sign.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Linebacker

NO.	NAME	POS.	HT.	WT.	YR.	DC
2	Marlowe Wax	LB	6-0	245	So.	1
3	Mikel Jones	LB	6-1	225	Jr.	1
7	Stefon Thompson	LB	6-1	247	So.	1
81	Derek McDonald	LB	6-4	229	RF	2
12	Anwar Sparrow	LB	6-1	219	RF	2
16	Leon Lowery	LB	6-4	225	RF	2
13	Mekhi Mason	LB	6-2	222	Fr.	3
42	Austin Roon	LB	6-3	225	RF	3
25	Malik Matthew	LB	6-3	208	RF	3
33	Ryan Dolan	LB	6-0	224	RF	4
48	John O'Connor	LB	6-1	218	RF	4
	Kadin Bailey	LB	6-1	210	Fr.	4

I don't think the depth was as good at LB as it was for other groups. Mason had a big play that I recall, and I remember McDonald and Sparrow getting a few tackles, but no big hits or big plays.

 

[IthacaMatt]

TE and WR

NO.	NAME	POS.	HT.	WT.	YR.	DC
81	Maximilian Mang	TE	6-7	254	So.	1
88	Steven Mahar Jr.	TE	6-5	232	So.	2
85	Courtney Jackson	WR	5-11	175	R-So.	1
14	Anthony Queeley	WR	6-2	198	R-Jr.	1
82	Damien Alford	WR	6-6	211	So.	1
19	Oronde Gadsden II	WR	6-5	215	So.	2
25	Devaughn Cooper	WR	5-11	180	R-Sr.	2
17	Umari Hatcher	WR	6-3	178	RF	2
29	Trebor Pena	WR	6-0	176	So.	3
11	Kendall Long	WR	6-2	214	RF	3
13	CJ Hayes	WR	6-2	208	R-Sr.	3
80	Isaiah Jones	WR	6-4	203	R-So.	4
86	Ja'Vontae Williams	WR	6-1	203	RF	4
87	Donovan Brown	WR	6-2	173	Fr.	4
83	Sam Warren	WR	5-10	196	R-So.	5
84	Nate Wellington	WR	5-10	186	R-So.	5
35	Kyle Acker	WR	5-11		Fr.	5

TEs were mostly invisible (but good at blocking). Of the WRs, pretty much everybody on the two-deep had a couple moments, and even a couple of the third and fourth groups (Jones, Hayes and Pena) had moments. I think they are going to find enough guys who can contribute this year.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Qb and Rb

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For me, Lamson was way ahead of the others. I thought McPhail was kind of a "Rudy" player out there at first, but he did make a couple good throws. Villari, big strong guy but was forcing things to make an impression. Morgan was nothing special to me.

The new running backs, Price and Allen, both looked great. Legit options off the bench.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Secondary

NO.	NAME	POS.	HT.	WT.	YR.	DC
0	Darian Chestnut	CB	6-0	198	So.	1
8	Garrett Williams	CB	6-0	189	R-So.	1
14	Jason Simmons Jr.	S	6-0	184	Jr.	1
11	Ja'Had Carter	S	6-2	197	So.	1
34	Eric Coley	S	6-2	199	R-Sr.	1
15	Neil Nunn	CB	6-0	188	R-So.	2
26	Aman Greenwood	CB	5-10	186	R-So.	2
23	Justin Barron	S	6-4	215	So.	2
27	Malcolm Folk	S	6-1	204	RF	2
21	Bralyn Oliver	S	6-2	195	RF	2
37	Cam Reirden	CB	6-0	187	RF	3
22	Dom Foster	CB	6-1	166	Fr.	3
19	Rob Hanna	S	6-0	168	So.	3
10	Alijah Clark	S	6-1	184	So.	3
43	Cornell Perry	S	6-1	183	Fr.	3
24	Jeremiah Wilson	CB	5-11	170	Fr.	4
	Greg Delaine	CB	6-1	170	Fr.	4
36	TJ Harness	CB	5-9	175	RF	4
	Quan Peterson	S	6-1	174	Fr.	4
39	Clay Masters	S	5-11	188	RF	4
40	Tommy Porter	S	5-11	191	RF	4

Deuce got burned a couple times on double moves. I think they wound up unintentionally showing that to our opponents this year. It seemed like they never threw at Garrett Williams that I remember. Braylin Oliver made a couple plays, and so did Carter. I don't remember Neil Nunn's name being called. Was he hurt? I don't recall Coley making a lot of plays, either, come to think of it.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Offensive Line

NO.	NAME	POS.	HT.	WT.	YR.	DC
52	Carlos Vettorello	OC	6-4	299	R-Jr.	1
57	Dakota Davis	OG	6-5	336	R-Sr.	1
63	Christopher Bleich	OG	6-6	335	R-Jr.	1
76	Kalan Ellis	OG	6-6	388	So.	1
60	Matthew Bergeron	OT	6-5	327	Jr.	1
55	Josh Ilaoa	OC	6-3	302	So.	2
73	Wes Hoeh	OG	6-4	281	RF	2
74	Jakob Bradford	OG	6-5	296	R-So.	2
56	Darius Tisdale	OT	6-5	279	R-Sr.	2
71	Enrique Cruz Jr.	OT	6-6	303	RF	2
70	Wil Froumy	OC	6-6	280	R-Jr.	3
72	Mark Petry	OG	6-4	269	R-So.	3
75	Austyn Kauhi	OG	6-5	271	RF	3
53	Garth Barclay	OG	6-7	284	RF	3
51	Anthony Red	OT	6-5	290	R-So.	3
59	Ahmad Masood	OG	6-3	250	RF	4
77	Tyler Magnuson	OT	6-6	286	RF	4
	Chad Schuster	OT	6-6	280	Fr.	4
	Joe Cruz	OT	6-6	280	Fr.	4

A lot of players got good run from the offensive line. Linemen are like umpires. If you don't hear their names a lot, they're probably having pretty good games. I saw a lot of names on 3 deep who got game time.