Potential 2021 Roster

[kcsu]

Likewise, you really list him as a returning QB, you need to move on. If you can see the reality here I can’t help you. To lock up a QB scholarship with Rex next year would be asinine. Too many transfers etc.

I hope Rex returns. I actually think he looked good against ND. Very good actually.

 

[OmahaCuse]

I hope Rex returns. I actually think he looked good against ND. Very good actually.

Looked good in what way? If your definition of looking good is three turnovers, a very bad pass that AQ make a great play and run on. His career QB stats are 11 TDS/ 11 INTs, don’t have count of fumbles but it’s not great either. His career completion is 52%. He has had a career 47 rushes for -9 and zero TDs. I need some help here. Maybe I am missing something. A ND grad friend of mine says if you guys have a average QB yesterday you beat us. Clearly I am missing something.

 

[upperdeck]

no idea what yr to call some of these kids... all the FR should really just be called r-FR but if this yr doesnt then they all get another RS yr if they need it too.

so the real question is do the schools who didnt play at all get the yr back too? could be kids who graduated now with 2 yrs left floating around looking to move up..

 

[upperdeck]

Looked good in what way? If your definition of looking good is three turnovers, a very bad pass that AQ make a great play and run on. His career QB stats are 11 TDS/ 11 INTs, don’t have count of fumbles but it’s not great either. His career completion is 52%. He has had a career 47 rushes for -9 and zero TDs. I need some help here. Maybe I am missing something. A ND grad friend of mine says if you guys have a average QB yesterday you beat us. Clearly I am missing something.

he looked good when the read was correct and the play was there.. play calling helped him.. his accuracy hurt a few times but he didnt enough to make a win a small chance until his mistakes came to happen

 

[IthacaMatt]

	Quarterbacks	Returning: 5	Incoming: 1
17​	Rex Culpepper	QB	6'3	221	G-Sr.	??
13​	Tommy DeVito	QB	6'2	221	R-Sr.
16​	David Summers	QB	6'2	214	R-So.
11​	Dillon Markiewicz	QB	6'5	216	R-Fr.
15​	JaCobian Morgan	QB	6'4	203	R-Fr.
	Justin Lamson	QB	6'3	210	Fr.
	Running Backs	Returning: 5	Incoming: 1
22​	Markenzy Pierre	RB	5'11	216	R-Sr.
24​	Cooper Lutz	RB	6'0	201	R-Jr.
25​	Jawhar Jordan	RB	5'9	172	R-So.
34​	Sean Tucker	RB	5'10	202	R-Fr.
5​	Chris Elmore	FB	6'0	288	G-Sr.	FB / TE?
	Josh Hough	RB	6'2	235	Fr.
	Tight Ends	Returning: 4	Incoming: 1
89​	Aaron Hackett	TE	6'3	237	G-Sr.	??
87​	Luke Benson	TE	6'3	233	R-So.
47​	Max Mang	TE	6'7	250	R-Fr.
88​	Steven Mahar Jr.	TE	6'5	225	R-Fr.
	Landon Morris	TE	6'5	210	Fr.
	Wide Receivers	Returning: 12	Incoming: 3
4​	Nykeim Johnson	WR	5'8	170	G-Sr.	??
3​	Taj Harris	WR	6'2	164	R-Jr.
12​	Russell Thompson-Bishop	WR	6'0	234	R-Sr.
19​	Sharod Johnson	WR	5'11	181	R-Sr.
14​	Anthony Queeley	WR	6'2	193	R-Jr.
18​	Ed Hendrix	WR	6'3	220	R-Jr.
80​	Isaiah Jones	WR	6'4	200	R-So.
85​	Courtney Jackson	WR	5'10	173	R-So.
29​	Trebor Pena	WR	6'0	185	R-Fr.
35​	Damien Alford	WR	6'5	210	R-Fr.
81​	Justin Barron	WR	6'4	208	R-Fr.	Moving to DB?
86​	Ja'Vontae Williams	WR	6'0	203	R-Fr.
	Oronde Gadsden II	WR	6'4	190	Fr.
	Umari Hatcher	WR	6'3	175	Fr.
	Kendall Long	WR	6'3	210	Fr.
	Offensive Line	Returning: 13	Incoming: 5
68​	Airon Servais	OL	6'6	309	G-Sr.	??
69​	Patrick Davis	OL	6'5	311	G-Sr.	??
56​	Darius Tisdale	OL	6'4	342	R-Sr.
57​	Dakota Davis	OL	6'5	327	R-Sr.
52​	Carlos Vettorello	OL	6'4	289	R-Jr.
67​	Chris Bleich	OL	6'6	332	R-Jr.
70​	Wil Froumy	OL	6'6	307	R-Jr.
76​	Qadir White	OL	6'7	343	R-Jr.
60​	Matthew Bergeron	OL	6'4	312	R-So.
72​	Mark Petry	OL	6'4	265	R-So.
51​	Anthony Red	OL	6'5	297	R-So.
53​	Garth Barclay	OL	6'7	270	R-Fr.
55​	Josh Ilaoa	OL	6'3	295	R-Fr.
	Enrique Cruz, Jr	OL	6'5	250	Fr.
	Kalan Ellis	OL	6'5	350	Fr.
	Wes Hoeh	OL	6'4	250	Fr.
	Austyn Kauhi	OL	6'5	260	Fr.
	Tyler Magnuson	OL	6'5	260	Fr.
	Defensive Line	Returning: 13	Incoming: 5
0​	McKinley Williams	DL	6'4	291	G-Sr.	??
85​	Josh Black	DL	6'3	282	G-Sr.	??
9​	Kingsley Jonathan	DL	6'3	264	G-Sr.	??
97​	Cody Roscoe	DL	6'0	258	G-Sr.	??
52​	Curtis Harper	DL	6'2	296	R-Sr.
99​	Zach Morton	DL	6'4	248	R-Sr.
93​	Caleb Okechukwu	DL	6'4	257	R-Jr.
61​	Joe Rondi	DL	6'4	272	R-So.
88​	Drew Tuazama	DL	6'5	244	R-So.
95​	Cooper Dawson	DL	6'5	255	R-So.
12​	Latarie Kinsler	DL	6'3	213	R-Fr.
94​	Kevin Lemieux	DL	6'4	252	R-Fr.
	Elijah Fuentes	DL	6'3	260	Fr.
	Jatius Geer	DL	6'5	240	Fr.
	Terry Lockett	DL	6'1	255	Fr.
	Jaelin Moss	DL	6'5	250	Fr.
	Hayden Nelson	DL	6'4	240	Fr.
	Linebackers	Returning: 10	Incoming: 3
42​	Tyrell Richards	LB	6'4	234	R-Sr.
13​	Mikel Jones	LB	6'0	230	R-So.
21​	Lee Kpogba	LB	6'0	224	R-So.
31​	Geoff Cantin-Arku	LB	6'4	228	R-So.
17​	Steve Linton	LB	6'5	224	R-So.
90​	Ishmael Goulbourne	LB	6'3	207	R-So.
16​	Leon Lowery	LB	6'4	225	R-Fr.
24​	Anwar Sparrow	LB	6'0	204	R-Fr.
27​	Stefon Thompson	LB	6'0	235	R-Fr.
32​	Marlowe Wax	LB	6'0	230	R-Fr.
	Malik Matthew	LB	6'3	210	Fr.
	Derek McDonald	LB	6'4	225	Fr.
	Austin Roon	LB	6'3	220	Fr.
	Defensive Backs	Returning: 12	Incoming: 2
11​	Devon Clarke	DB	6'2	197	G-Sr.	??
2​	Ifeatu Melifonwu	DB	6'3	213	R-Sr.
34​	Eric Coley	DB	6'2	206	R-Sr.
20​	Cam Jonas	DB	6'0	210	R-Jr.
10​	Adrian Cole	DB	5'10	171	R-So.
14​	Garrett Williams	DB	5'11	184	R-So.
15​	Neil Nunn	DB	6'0	183	R-So.
26​	Aman Greenwood	DB	5'10	180	R-So.
11​	Ja'Had Carter	DB	6'2	191	R-Fr.
19​	Rob Hanna	DB	6'0	168	R-Fr.
28​	Ben Labrosse	DB	6'2	200	R-Fr.
35​	Chase Atkinson	DB	5'11	180	R-Fr.
	Darian Chestnut	DB	5'11	180	Fr.
	Malcolm Folk	DB	6'1	185	Fr.
	Special Teams	Returning: 2
98​	James Williams	P	6'0	199	R-Fr.
91​	Andre Szmyt	PK	6'0	184	R-Sr.

The thing I find most disappointing about this list is the number of WR we have who are 3 or 4 years in the program and have had almost zero impact.

We also seem to suddenly have quite a lot of TEs, when we haven't used them as much as hoped for. I guess they are looking to grow a couple into Ts or to use for short yardage running plays.

We're still very young at LB, albeit with pretty decent depth and experience. Same with the DBs.

 

[Nick44]

Without going into it further, his dad's absence here has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not TD comes back.

Speaking of absences, what happened to Bnoro?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

no idea what yr to call some of these kids... all the FR should really just be called r-FR but if this yr doesnt then they all get another RS yr if they need it too.

so the real question is do the schools who didnt play at all get the yr back too? could be kids who graduated now with 2 yrs left floating around looking to move up..

I'm basing it how SU listed all the LAX players for 2021.

All the Freshmen became Redshirt Freshmen.
All the Sophs became Redshirt Sophs
If you were already a Redshirt Soph, you became a Redshirt Junior, etc...
Top of the line is a guy who's been here forever that I'm calling a Graduate Senior.

This way we can separate all the 2nd year Freshmen from all the 1st year Freshmen coming in next season.

When SU releases an official Spring Roster in a few months, I'll change our list to whatever nomenclature SU decides upon.

To answer your other question, I believe EVERY school gets the year back, even the ones who pushed off football to the Spring, and the schools who cancelled everything.

There will be a LOT of guys with an extra year available. I can see the borderline NFL guys trying to play one more college season to improve whatever draft stock they have. The guys with no NFL ambitions will still take their degrees in 4-5 years, especially if they have decent jobs lined up. Not everybody will want to stay in school for over half a decade to chase a Masters Degree.

 

[UpstateSM]

Speaking of absences, what happened to Bnoro?

He got sick of dasher ‘s chit

 

[OmahaCuse]

he looked good when the read was correct and the play was there.. play calling helped him.. his accuracy hurt a few times but he didnt enough to make a win a small chance until his mistakes came to happen

Go rewatch game. He made a great read on the Tucker pass

The thing I find most disappointing about this list is the number of WR we have who are 3 or 4 years in the program and have had almost zero impact.

We also seem to suddenly have quite a lot of TEs, when we haven't used them as much as hoped for. I guess they are looking to grow a couple into Ts or to use for short yardage running plays.

We're still very young at LB, albeit with pretty decent depth and experience. Same with the DBs.

Hard year for a WR without a line or a QB...We could have Megatron and it would not matter much.

 

[AAM62]

I get the feeling tommy is gone based on his dads absence on here

Well this was dumb

 

[upperdeck]

Go rewatch game. He made a great read on the Tucker pass

Hard year for a WR without a line or a QB...We could have Megatron and it would not matter much.

isnt that what I said, when the read was correct he made some good plays.. almost every pass was pre-snap read and quick out.. look what happened on the INT bad read bad decision.

The Tucker pass might been the best of his career, really nice catch too. His accuracy led to several missed chances when he made good decisions.

I also think that was his best effort, good way for a SR to go out if he is done.. A tough call on the first fumble ir we are ahead at the half and who knows.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Go rewatch game. He made a great read on the Tucker pass

Hard year for a WR without a line or a QB...We could have Megatron and it would not matter much.

Fair point.

 

[TexanMark]

The punter Cooney has one more possible year, right? Was he ever put on scholarship?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The punter Cooney has one more possible year, right? Was he ever put on scholarship?

He got a scholarship for this year. But he took the Senior Day walk.

 

[orangepassion]

He got a scholarship for this year. But he took the Senior Day walk.

The guy punted for 1 year. Why run off? Play in a normal season with fans cheering you on.

 

[ElwoodJBlues]

The guy punted for 1 year. Why run off? Play in a normal season with fans cheering you on.

He might get some looks in NFL camps and at this point, he could be ready to move on from college.

 

[TexanMark]

He might get some looks in NFL camps and at this point, he could be ready to move on from college.

I agree with Orangepassion, strange he would want to leave. Another year in college isn't a bad thing. Get a Master's in school. Hone your craft and see after '21 if you can stick to a NFL team.

 

[upperdeck]

I dont see anyway Cooney is NFL kicker.. He is way too inconsistent and the market is so small to make the NFL. But stranger things have happened.. He does a decent job punting to the red Zone.

 

[sufandu]

Go rewatch game. He made a great read on the Tucker pass

Hard year for a WR without a line or a QB...We could have Megatron and it would not matter much.

There's certainly enough blame to be shared. Early on in the year, especially before TD got hurt, we saw a lot of dropped passes and there were a lot of comments about our lack of ability to win 50/50 balls. A megatron, or even and Ishmael, would've helped us then.

 

[ElwoodJBlues]

I dont see anyway Cooney is NFL kicker.. He is way too inconsistent and the market is so small to make the NFL. But stranger things have happened.. He does a decent job punting to the red Zone.

Cooney had a better year (by average) than Riley Dixon or the Hof ever had. He’s going to get an invite to OTAs somewhere.

 

[upperdeck]

but there are things other than avg punt that go into to being a pro.. hang time, direction, consistency matter much more at the pro level where they have 100 guys for 1 spot.. a pro team would rather have a guy avg 43 than a guy who goes 35-55.

 

[Cuse69]

Might be the worst QB room in the ACC, take out TD and it's not even a discussion, if we could I'd like us to move on from summers, culpepper returning doesn't hurt us at all so who cares, he's a liked veteran leader in the QB room which can't hurt. Jury is still out on morgan and tex but there's probably a reason morgan didn't have a single FBS offer but ours.
Staff hasn't exactly done a good job developing one of their own QB's which might be to blame on martin but if we're gonna be successful we got no chance if TD goes down and it's not like he's exactly killed it so far.

 

[GoSU96]

Might be the worst QB room in the ACC, take out TD and it's not even a discussion, if we could I'd like us to move on from summers, culpepper returning doesn't hurt us at all so who cares, he's a liked veteran leader in the QB room which can't hurt. Jury is still out on morgan and tex but there's probably a reason morgan didn't have a single FBS offer but ours.
Staff hasn't exactly done a good job developing one of their own QB's which might be to blame on martin but if we're gonna be successful we got no chance if TD goes down and it's not like he's exactly killed it so far.

good god we get it

 

[Chip]

good god we get it

You need a good orangefizz triple option post to turn that frown upside down Mister!

 

[UnknownOrange]

Max Mang, the MOUNTAIN (frame for now...but a couple more years with a dedicated S&C...)