Predict Cuse Nova line

[cusetown1]

Cuse -5

 

[Trueblue25]

Cuse -3 because we're home.

 

[cusetown1]

Cuse -3 because we're home.

I think it starts at -3 and closes at -5

 

[jekelish]

I think it starts at -3 and closes at -5

That's about what I was thinking.

 

[CaptainJ]

What do the cappers give for a standard for being at home in NCAAMB? I only know that football is -3. Im drinking rolling rock and molson.

 

[dasher]

Syracuse -5 1/2 The game would not be a pick on a neutral court.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

Cuse -5

I'm a fan with my heart but I bet with my head. If it's Cuse -5, I'd take 'Nova. Jay Wright is 11-7 as the 'Nova coach all-time vs SU, and he's undefeated with a nice squad.

 

[dasher]

I'm a fan with my heart but I bet with my head. If it's Cuse -5, I'd take 'Nova. Jay Wright is 11-7 as the 'Nova coach all-time vs SU, and he's undefeated with a nice squad.

most of those games we weren't as good as we are now.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

most of those games we weren't as good as we are now.

The same might be said of 'Nova as well.

 

[dasher]

they were ranked about as high as us in 2010 when we spanked them.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

they were ranked about as high as us in 2010 when we spanked them.

Not saying 'Nova will win, but 5 points seems like a lot to give them. Not saying that's a lock, either. Just that 5 points looks better than 50/50 for 'Nova. Hope we win by 15, but that's my heart talking.

 

[cusetown1]

Not saying 'Nova will win, but 5 points seems like a lot to give them. Not saying that's a lock, either. Just that 5 points looks better than 50/50 for 'Nova. Hope we win by 15, but that's my heart talking.

Well my wallets talking and I'd take Cuse by 8+.

 

[Dave85]

Not saying 'Nova will win, but 5 points seems like a lot to give them. Not saying that's a lock, either. Just that 5 points looks better than 50/50 for 'Nova. Hope we win by 15, but that's my heart talking.

This team seems to play much better when they think they are being challenged. I think they are going to show up to play well against Nova.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

FWIW, Sagarin would put 'Nova as about a 1 point favorite.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm

Current rating has Nova at 91.20 (#3), SU at 86.50 (#24), a difference of 4.70. He calcs home advantage as 3.79. Net equals 0.91.

FWIW.

 

[cusetown1]

FWIW, Sagarin would put 'Nova as about a 1 point favorite.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm

Current rating has Nova at 91.20 (#3), SU at 86.50 (#24), a difference of 4.70. He calcs home advantage as 3.79. Net equals 0.91.

FWIW.

Sagarin is an idiot. His math makes no sense .

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

Sagarin is an idiot.

Possibly. But he uses time-tested statistical methodologies only, with no human judgment. Early on it's a little wacky, but we're not that early on anymore.

He does have us #1 in the "pure_elo" methodology, which is like a chess rating, which is what counts for rankings and championships. The other methodologies are for wagering. We're #25 and #30 in those.

We'll see.

 

[normaliswear]

Possibly. But he uses time-tested statistical methodologies only, with no human judgment. Early on it's a little wacky, but we're not that early on anymore.

He does have us #1 in the "pure_elo" methodology, which is like a chess rating, which is what counts for rankings and championships. The other methodologies are for wagering. We're #25 and #30 in those.

We'll see.

This early in the year Sagarin doesn't mean much. Small anomalies, time walk ons play, rotations being worked out can't be taken into account. It's not a bad system as the year goes on but this time of year its not close. I'd say the line ends up about cuse -5.

 

[jdubs30]

Think it opens at -4.

Public goes on Cuse.

Goes to -2.5 by tip.

 

[cusetown1]

Think it opens at -4.

Public goes on Cuse.

Goes to -2.5 by tip.

Wow the #2 team an underdog at home.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Wow the #2 team an underdog at home.

That -2.5 or -4 is not an underdog. You have it backwards. No way I would take SU as an 8 point favorite if it was that. That's betting with your heart which is foolish.

 

[cusetown1]

That -2.5 or -4 is not an underdog. You have it backwards. No way I would take SU as an 8 point favorite if it was that. That's betting with your heart which is foolish.

I don't have it backwards. If the public "goes on Cuse"and drops it to -2.5 from -4 Cuse would be the underdog. Truse me I've done this before. "Going on Cuse" would mean betting they cover.

 

[IthacaMatt]

most of those games we weren't as good as we are now.

We were in the Big East until last season.

 

[No Hoyas]

FWIW, Sagarin would put 'Nova as about a 1 point favorite.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm

Current rating has Nova at 91.20 (#3), SU at 86.50 (#24), a difference of 4.70. He calcs home advantage as 3.79. Net equals 0.91.

FWIW.

Find me a bookie that will give SU+1 at the dome and then we can talk

 

[Orangemen]

From a rankings standpoint, the only difference between them and us is that we're coming off a final four and an elite eight the year before, while nova is kind of out of no where this year.

Our results this year are pretty similar too in terms of quality wins.

I'd guess the line is about Cuse -5, and that seems fair to me. 3 or 4 points for home court, plus another point or so because the public (myself and many here included) think we're the better team, even if only slightly.

 

[jncuse]

What do the cappers give for a standard for being at home in NCAAMB? I only know that football is -3. Im drinking rolling rock and molson.

3.5