Quincy Guerrier . . . Superstar?

[Ceerqqq]

Yeah, the competition wasn't good and all that, but Quincy's domination of Niagara yesterday was significant beyond him merely getting a second double-double. The most important thing he did was hit his only 3pt attempt. Along with everything else he did, that was really big.

The reason is cuz we can all recall last year when 1) he really looked lost a lot of the time, and 2) he was forbidden to take 3pt shots after he missed them too frequently. It made him look...well, kinda flawed, ya know?

But then this summer, after hearing he played injured last year, we were moved to a 'wait and see' attitude toward Quincy's potential. Last year we saw him making a lot of mistakes in the zone; would he be much improved this year?

What I think we saw in this game vs Niagara is that Quincy is "there." Where last year we saw a lot of uncertainty, this year we're seeing a guy who knows what he is doing, knows how to help this team.

But the question was always does this guy have the ability to make an open three, or not? Quincy being a reliable 3pt shooter makes him a major major threat to opposing teams. Indeed, it makes him potentially a weapon as formidable as Carmelo Anthony. If his three ball begins to look like Melo's, then what does that make him as an offensive weapon to this team?

The thing is, we've heard that he hits his threes in practice and he said in a recent interview that he always hit 3-4 threes per game in high school. So yeah, with the confidence he's been able to build up by listening to his coach on how to improve his team play, there's every reason to expect that Quincy might turn into the team's MVP before our eyes, become that Big Time player that we were all imagining when we heard he had committed to Syracuse years ago.

His game yesterday just oozed confidence, and I'm getting pretty excited about what a confident Quincy Guerrier could do for us as this season continues to unfold.

And then there's Kadary...

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**Edit: Because so many have opined that Guerrier "is not" a Superstar, currently, I should re-iterate that the claim I'm making is not that he IS a Superstar at this time, but only that IF he starts to regularly hit open threes, as reliably as Melo did, we'd then logically have to allow for the possibility that he could very well become a major Superstar for this team. Is it a reasonable projection?

 

[Orangezoo]

Quincy is our Paul Millsap. His game is starting to remind me of him. Plays really hard and is tenacious finishing and fighting around the rim and has that outside shot when it's available too.

 

[jgeorge322]

Could be a really good role player... not a superstar

 

[Orangezoo]

Could be a really good role player... not a superstar

He has the tools to be a very good player. Superstar is probably hyperbole but he adds that 3pt shot and shows the midrange too/ability to score at all 3 levels and look out.

Opponent matters but two straight double doubles with last night sitting the second part of the second half, that is impressive.

 

[Trueblue25]

The guy has the grind and effort you want to see in a postseason run squad. We’ve not had that energy in nearly a decade.

 

[Orangezoo]

The guy has the grind and effort you want to see in a postseason run squad. We’ve not had that energy in nearly a decade.

Yep. Both he and Griffin, albeit undersized, treat every rebound down low as theirs and get after it like they are insulted if someone else gets it.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Yeah, everyone was hyped for the way Sid ended the season last year, but I was pumped for the progress that Q was showing. I loved him being a beast against UNC to end the season. He had no fear of their big guys, and was more than willing to go body to body against them for boards and usually came away with the ball. He's picking up right where he left off, and it looks awesome.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Quincy is our Paul Millsap. His game is starting to remind me of him. Plays really hard and is tenacious finishing and fighting around the rim and has that outside shot when it's available too.

That's a good comparison.

 

[Orangezoo]

Yeah, everyone was hyped for the way Sid ended the season last year, but I was pumped for the progress that Q was showing. I loved him being a beast against UNC to end the season. He had no fear of their big guys, and was more than willing to go body to body against them for boards and usually came away with the ball. He's picking up right where he left off, and it looks awesome.

Q is the type of player that helps you win in the ACC if you aren't lighting it up from 3. He can compete with the UNC bigs for boards physically as an example.

 

[pearl31]

superstar is over the top but role player is way underselling him.

Solid, if unspectacular, double-double machine.

(who also appears to have become a reliable FT shooter to boot)

 

[CuseTG2003]

Yep. Both he and Griffin, albeit undersized, treat every rebound down low as theirs and get after it like they are insulted if someone else gets it.

We have a really scrappy squad, especially once Joe's back to his normal self. Marek's also a warrior on the boards despite getting the crap beat out of him every game, and Woody showed last night he's not lacking for effort.

 

[HoustonCuse]

So hilarious to see the tenor of this board. Every player is the next generational talent because they played well against Niagara. Four days ago, the mob wanted the entire thing burned down. Guess what will happen if we lose to Rutgers (without two starters, mind you)? Yep, the same characters will be talking again about Quincy’s “lack of lift” or how Kadary is just another guy who is “a good athlete but not a basketball player” or whatever else nonsense.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

So hilarious to see the tenor of this board. Every player is the next generational talent because they played well against Niagara. Four days ago, the mob wanted the entire thing burned down. Guess what will happen if we lose to Rutgers (without two starters, mind you)? Yep, the same characters will be talking again about Quincy’s “lack of lift” or how Kadary is just another guy who is “a good athlete but not a basketball player” or whatever else nonsense.

Q really doesn't show much lift, but I still love the way he plays.

And no one will ever say that about Richmond.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

superstar is over the top but role player is way underselling him.

Solid, if unspectacular, double-double machine.

(who also appears to have become a reliable FT shooter to boot)

Truth is we've had very few guys average double digits rebounds. It's hard to do.

Who was even the last one? Rick Jackson? That was a long time ago.

 

[Tony DeFranco]

Guerrier is no superstar - but he is one hell of a rebounder

 

[Orangezoo]

So hilarious to see the tenor of this board. Every player is the next generational talent because they played well against Niagara. Four days ago, the mob wanted the entire thing burned down. Guess what will happen if we lose to Rutgers (without two starters, mind you)? Yep, the same characters will be talking again about Quincy’s “lack of lift” or how Kadary is just another guy who is “a good athlete but not a basketball player” or whatever else nonsense.

There are still plenty who think this team is a pile of meh. Game 2 was a step in the right direction. We saw things from youngsters that we didn't get with last year's freshmen sans Joe. Game 3 might even be more lopsided as it will be Riders first game as well and they lost their best player to grad Txfr and their top 4 scorers.
Rider is picked last in the MAAC. The RU game is no doubt important. If we can win without Buddy and Sidibe that is a huge statement. That said it's not the game we hoped it would be given injuries.

 

[General20]

Not sure how you define superstar, but it wouldn't shock me to see Guerrier lead the team in scoring.

He's going to have a lot of room to operate with Buddy, Griffin, and Girard spreading the floor - even more so with Dolezaj playing mostly as a center.

 

[jdubs30]

If he can hit the 3 consistently... watch out

 

[moqui]

he's very talented & will have a big year, but less face it: quincy vs niagara was like kramer in karate class

 

[Gotothehole]

Some here said the same about a certain player who just got a new contract from the Raptors. He has attitude and aggression . He is now healthy and should have a great year

 

[Mareiniss]

superstar is over the top but role player is way underselling him.

Solid, if unspectacular, double-double machine.

(who also appears to have become a reliable FT shooter to boot)

Agree - he's no role player. In only 26 minutes, he scored 23 points and grabbed 13 rebounds for his second straight double-double.

 

[Trueblue25]

Maybe a mini Sullinger??

 

[shandeezy7]

Quincy is our Paul Millsap. His game is starting to remind me of him. Plays really hard and is tenacious finishing and fighting around the rim and has that outside shot when it's available too.

Millsap is a great comparison. Quincy needs to become a more consistent shooter, but even Millsap wasn't much of a three point shooter until his 8th year in the league.

Speaking of that, an interesting side note - in his first 7 years in the league with the Jazz, Millsap attempted a total of 113 threes. The following year, with the Hawks, he attempted 212 threes that season (shooting at a 36% clip). Quite the transformation of his game.

 

[Bulldog04]

He certainly looks healthier than last year

 

[bigmike]

he's very talented & will have a big year, but less face it: quincy vs niagara was like kramer in karate class

Agreed, or Rex working over Kip in Napoleon Dynamite.